do_v the_o adorate_a scabellum_fw-la psal_n 98._o and_o moses_n put_v off_o his_o shoe_n because_o the_o ground_n be_v holy_a exod._n 3.5_o jos_n 5.15_o gen._n 28.16_o 17_o 18._o do_v warrant_n the_o contrary_n and_o venerabantur_fw-la quondam_a judaer_n sancta_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la say_v st._n jerome_n epist_n 17._o ad_fw-la marcellam_fw-la from_o which_o he_o infer_v nun_n tibi_fw-la venerabilius_fw-la videtur_fw-la sepulchrum_n domini_fw-la yet_o be_v the_o ark_n also_o as_o well_o as_o the_o image_n of_o the_o cherubim_n liable_a to_o be_v adore_v with_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o worship_n as_o may_v be_v flat_a idolatry_n it_o be_v most_o true_a then_o and_o willing_o concede_v to_o those_o who_o i_o know_v not_o to_o what_o end_n do_v press_v it_o that_o if_o god_n declare_v that_o any_o worship_n whatever_o give_v to_o a_o image_n be_v idolatry_n no_o distinction_n about_o worship_n can_v save_v we_o from_o it_o but_o as_o you_o see_v most_o reasonable_o still_o maintain_v that_o 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jesus_n for_o as_o i_o have_v show_v both_o the_o council_n and_o schoolman_n do_v compare_v and_o equal_v all_o these_o and_o defend_v that_o of_o image_n by_o the_o other_o as_o to_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o honour_n cult_a or_o reverence_n give_v they_o though_o this_o reverence_n may_v be_v gradual_o different_a as_o the_o person_n represent_v be_v more_o excellent_a or_o the_o thing_n so_o honour_v for_o his_o sake_n more_o near_o relate_v to_o he_o of_o these_o thus_o bellarmin_n de_fw-fr imag._n l._n 2._o c._n 21._o non_fw-la debetur_fw-la imagini_fw-la honour_n qui_fw-la debetur_fw-la deo_fw-la sed_fw-la minor_fw-la non_fw-la asserimus_fw-la eundem_fw-la honorem_fw-la sed_fw-la aliquem_fw-la honorem_fw-la deberi_fw-la imagini_fw-la again_o ibid._n c._n 19_o imago_fw-la cum_fw-la sit_fw-la res_fw-la inanimata_fw-la &_o sensus_fw-la ac_fw-la rationis_fw-la expers_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la honoris_fw-la capax_fw-la propter_fw-la se_fw-la &_o ideo_fw-la imagine_v non_fw-la honorantur_fw-la absolute_a say_v relative_a ad_fw-la prototypum_fw-la qui_fw-fr honour_n transit_fw-la ad_fw-la exemplar_n mediate_v &_o quasi_fw-la consequenter_fw-la na_o qui_fw-la honorat_fw-la imaginem_fw-la alicujus_fw-la sine_fw-la dubio_fw-la honorat_fw-la propter_fw-la eum_fw-la cujus_fw-la est_fw-la imago_fw-la ibid._n c._n 21._o and._n imagine_v venerandae_fw-la eo_fw-la modo_fw-la quo_fw-la veneramur_fw-la evangelia_n &_o sacra_fw-la vasa_fw-la §_o 48_o 6ly_n a_o veneration_n or_o reverence_n due_a to_o holy_a thing_n as_o the_o ancient_a opposer_n of_o nice_a do_v so_o the_o sober_a sort_n of_o protestant_n do_v willing_o acknowledge_v to_o bellarmin_n urge_v that_o judaei_n solebant_fw-la prostrati_fw-la ad_fw-la terram_fw-la venerari_fw-la imagine_v cherubin_n bishop_n andrews_n answer_v resp_n ad_fw-la apol._n c._n 8._o p._n 204._o at_o cherubin_n etc._n etc._n non_fw-la adorarunt_fw-la nam_fw-la veneratos_fw-la esse_fw-la eos_fw-la sanctum_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la non_fw-la dubitamus_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la templa_fw-la veneramur_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la adorationem_fw-la nimis_fw-la angusta_fw-la venerandi_fw-la vox_fw-la and_o cap._n 1._o p._n 35._o rex_fw-la adorationem_fw-la reliquiarum_fw-la reprehendit_fw-la non_fw-la venerationem_fw-la and_o p._n 50._o tandem_fw-la autem_fw-la eo_fw-la forte_fw-fr recidet_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la alium_fw-la eye_v honorem_fw-la congruere_fw-la dicturus_fw-la sit_fw-la quam_fw-la libro_fw-la evangelii_n vel_fw-la vasis_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la de_fw-fr quo_fw-la neque_fw-la nos_fw-la habebit_fw-la valde_fw-la repugnantes_fw-la thus_o he._n but_o if_o that_o veneration_n of_o the_o image_n of_o the_o cherubin_n be_v allow_v which_o he_o yield_v of_o the_o temple_n no_o more_o be_v by_o bellarmin_n or_o catholic_n desire_v but_o then_o for_o the_o term_n adoration_n or_o incurvation_n the_o scripture_n use_v this_o term_n for_o scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la twice_o and_o for_o templum_n and_o montem_fw-la sanctum_fw-la too_o see_v psal_n 98.5_o adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la and_o ver_fw-la 9_o and_o psal_n 131.7_o and_o psal_n 5.8_o or_o if_o in_o all_o these_o by_o reason_n of_o a_o prefix_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o the_o word_n they_o be_v to_o be_v translate_v ad_fw-la scabellum_fw-la ad_fw-la templum_fw-la incurvate_a vos_fw-fr templo_fw-la or_o ad_fw-la templum_fw-la yet_o the_o scripture_n use_v the_o same_o mode_n of_o expression_n for_o abraham_n worship_v of_o the_o son_n of_o heth_n and_o jacob_n of_o pharaoh_n where_o be_v the_o same_o article_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d too_o and_o as_o much_o reason_n for_o translate_n ad_fw-la filios_fw-la heth_n as_o ad_fw-la scabellum_fw-la or_o ad_fw-la templum_fw-la i_o say_v in_o these_o the_o word_n adorare_fw-la be_v use_v and_o apply_v to_o they_o notwithstanding_o non_fw-la add_v in_o the_o second_o commandment_n to_o the_o very_a same_o hebrew_n word_n that_o be_v use_v in_o the_o other_o exod._n 20._o non_fw-la adorabis_fw-la ea_fw-la neque_fw-la coal_n that_o be_v non_fw-la adorabis_fw-la neither_o any_o thing_n nor_o the_o image_n or_o similitude_n of_o any_o thing_n sun_n moon_n or_o star_n in_o heaven_n or_o in_o earth_n this_o abraham_n adoravit_fw-la filios_fw-la heth_n must_v force_v
time_n '_o the_o furniture_n and_o utensil_n of_o the_o church_n be_v honour_v in_o the_o spotless_a time_n of_o the_o church_n as_o consecrate_v to_o god_n service_n though_o the_o honour_n of_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o honour_n for_o themselves_o be_v manifest_o and_o without_o any_o scruple_n the_o honour_n of_o god_n but_o image_n so_o long_o as_o they_o be_v use_v to_o no_o further_a intent_n than_o the_o ornament_n of_o church_n the_o remembrance_n of_o holy_a history_n and_o the_o raise_n of_o devotion_n thereby_o as_o at_o the_o first_o they_o be_v use_v by_o the_o church_n be_v so_o be_v still_o come_v in_o the_o number_n i_o add_v and_o so_o ought_v to_o receive_v the_o honour_n of_o thing_n consecrate_v to_o god_n service_n last_o thus_o daille_n traicte_n des_fw-fr image_n c._n 7._o in_o his_o answer_n to_o st._n gregory_n forementioned_a expression_n ea_fw-la qua_fw-la dignum_fw-la est_fw-la veneratione_n seem_v to_o allow_v some_o veneration_n to_o such_o thing_n so_o it_o be_v not_o cult_a ou_fw-fr service_fw-fr religieuse_fw-fr he_o certain_a degree_n of_o respect_n and_o honour_n say_v he_o be_v due_a to_o all_o the_o instrument_n of_o religion_n as_o to_o the_o person_n and_o thing_n of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o priest_n to_o the_o chalice_n to_o the_o sacred_a bibles_n which_o every_o one_o call_v venerable_a yet_o none_o deferr_v to_o they_o the_o religious_a service_n which_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a communion_n now_o adays_o render_v to_o image_n see_v also_o ibid._n p._n 340._o 376._o and_o apol._n des_fw-fr eglis_n reform_v c._n 10._o one_o of_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o text_n adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la psal_n 98._o be_v '_o that_o this_o adoration_n of_o the_o ark_n be_v a_o inferior_a species_n of_o honour_n to_o the_o adoration_n of_o latria_n which_o be_v due_a to_o none_o but_o god_n thus_o he._n this_o inferior_a reverence_n then_o due_a to_o holy_a thing_n let_v he_o allow_v to_o the_o image_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o his_o 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to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o the_o testimony_n of_o protestant_n confess_v a_o certain_a reverence_n and_o honour_n due_a to_o holy_a thing_n may_v be_v add_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n and_o constant_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o former_a time_n and_o the_o several_a command_n and_o example_n thereof_o occur_v in_o the_o scripture_n you_o shall_v reverence_v my_o sanctuary_n leu._n 19.30_o and_o 26.2_o and_o adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la ejus_fw-la and_o that_o quia_fw-la sanctum_fw-la est_fw-la since_o both_o in_o the_o hebrew_n be_v of_o the_o same_o gender_n sanctum_fw-la or_o sanctus_n may_v relate_v either_o to_o scabellum_fw-la or_o dominus_fw-la and_o the_o place_n where_o it_o be_v be_v call_v sanctum_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la such_o thing_n i_o say_v i_o may_v collect_v if_o i_o think_v this_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o will_v be_v much_o question_v save_v by_o some_o late_a profane_a sect_n that_o cry_v down_o also_o all_o thing_n and_o person_n sacred_a the_o clergy_n and_o church_n §_o 49_o 7._o next_o if_o it_o be_v more_o particular_o inquire_v what_o this_o veneration_n or_o honour_n be_v that_o be_v communicable_a or_o pretend_v to_o belong_v as_o to_o other_o holy_a thing_n so_o to_o holy_a image_n for_o so_o i_o call_v those_o represent_v holy_a person_n such_o honour_n for_o the_o external_a sign_n thereof_o have_v use_v to_o be_v in_o ancient_a time_n and_o still_o be_v in_o the_o roman_a as_o also_o oriental_n church_n uncover_v the_o head_n bowing_z kiss_v embracing_z light_n perfume_n etc._n etc._n as_o we_o see_v also_o man_n place_n in_o their_o closet_n kiss_n or_o embrace_v the_o picture_n or_o effigy_n of_o a_o person_n who_o they_o dear_o love_v without_o any_o fear_n of_o either_o idololatria_fw-la or_o idolodulia_n in_o such_o a_o practice_n again_o for_o the_o internal_a intention_n join_v with_o such_o outward_a gesture_n this_o also_o non_fw-la ullus_fw-la cultus_fw-la eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la tribuuntur_fw-la naturae_fw-la intelligenti_fw-la as_o bellarmin_n observe_v or_o any_o such_o submission_n of_o mind_n as_o he_o that_o honour_v it_o acknowledge_v himself_o inferior_a to_o it_o which_o vasquez_n therefore_o take_v internal_a adoration_n in_o so_o strict_a sense_n just_o reject_v as_o unapplicable_a to_o any_o image_n or_o inanimate_a thing_n in_o what_o consideration_n soever_o but_o a_o inward_a esteem_n and_o value_n of_o they_o for_o some_o particular_a relation_n they_o have_v to_o some_o other_o object_n more_o excellent_a than_o ourselves_o as_o also_o a_o intention_n by_o the_o outward_a gesture_n we_o use_v to_o show_v not_o to_o the_o image_n to_o which_o we_o perform_v they_o but_o to_o any_o person_n capable_a of_o understand_v our_o action_n the_o prototype_n or_o other_o the_o esteem_n we_o have_v of_o any_o thing_n so_o near_o belong_v to_o such_o a_o person_n f._n suarez_n thus_o express_v it_o in_o 3._o thom._n disp_n 54._o §_o 5._o est_fw-la existimatio_fw-la quaedam_fw-la imaginis_fw-la ut_fw-la est_fw-la similitudo_fw-la ad_fw-la personam_fw-la sacram_fw-la or_o ut_fw-la est_fw-la quaedam_fw-la res_fw-la habens_fw-la relationem_fw-la ad_fw-la tale_n exemplar_n propter_fw-la quam_fw-la honour_n illi_fw-la exhibetur_fw-la non_fw-la ea_fw-la intention_n ut_fw-la ipsa_fw-la illum_fw-la percipiat_fw-la such_o cult_a belong_v only_o to_o thing_n intelligent_a say_v solum_fw-la ut_fw-la convenienti_fw-la &_o reverenti_fw-la modo_fw-la tractetur_fw-la juxta_fw-la existimationem_fw-la quae_fw-la de_fw-la illa_fw-la haberi_fw-la debet_fw-la atque_fw-la adeo_fw-la ut_fw-la haec_fw-la ipsa_fw-la existimatio_fw-la ipsism_n actionibus_fw-la significetur_fw-la &_o ostendatur_fw-la significatio_fw-la autem_fw-la haec_fw-la sicut_fw-la non_fw-la fit_a propter_fw-la imaginem_fw-la quae_fw-la adoratur_fw-la ita_fw-la neque_fw-la fit_a ad_fw-la ipsam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la ipsa_fw-la 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