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A68537 Herod and Pilate reconciled: or The concord of papist and puritan (against Scripture, fathers, councels, and other orthodoxall writers) for the coercion, deposition, and killing of kings. Discouered by David Owen Batchelour of Diuinitie, and chaplaine to the right Honourable Lord Vicount Hadington Owen, David, d. 1623. 1610 (1610) STC 18983.5; ESTC S113808 40,852 73

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with the old people of Rome that of all good actions the murther of a tyrant is most commendable Thus farre he pag. 206. 1577. came forth the Vindicia contra Tyrannos with this resolution That Princes are chosen by God established by the people euery priuate man is subiect to the Prince the Multitude and the officers of state which represent the Multitude are superiours to the Prince yea they may iudge his actions and if he make resistance punish him by forcible meanes So farre he 1584. Danaeus finished his booke of Christian policie wherein among many other he propoundeth and answereth a Noble question lib. 3. c. 6. as he termeth it Nobilis quaestio sequitur A noble question followeth whether it be lawful for subiects to change and alter their gouerment Yea whether it may be done by godly men with a good conscience his answer is The cheefe Magistrate that notoriously and willfully violateth the fundamentall lawes of the kingdome may be displaced by godly subiects with a good conscience And this is his reason Reges summique Magistratus Kings and cheefe Magistrates are the vassalls of the kingdome and of the Common-wealth where they rule Wherefore they may be dispossessed deiected when they shall obstinatly attempt any thing against the feudall lawes of the kingdome where they gouerne as Kings and cheefe Magistrates And it is truly said that as a generall councell is aboue the Pope so the kingdome or the Peeres of the Land are aboue the King Thus farre Danaeus 1585. de iure Reg. pag. 31. George Buchanan proclaimed rewards aswell for murthering kings as killing tygres If I saith he had power to make a law I would command tyrants to be transported from the societie of men into some solitarie place or els to be drowned in the bottome of the sea that the euill sauour of dead tyrants should not annoy liuing men Furthermore I would award recompence to be giuen for the slaughter of tyrants not onely of all in generall but of euery one in particular as men vse to reward them for their paines which kill wolues or beares and destroy their young ones haec ille The same yeare Thomas Cartwright commended Dudley Fenners his Sacra Theologia as they call his booke to the world wherein men are warranted by sundry texts of Scripture most miserably abused to destroy tyrants Therein he following the common opinion of the Puritans maketh two sorts of tyrants Tyrannus sine titulo lib. 5. cap. 13. pag. 185. and Tyrannus exercitio For the tyrant without title He is confident that any man may cut his throat Huic quisque priuatus resistet etiam si potest è medio tollat let euerie private man resist him and if he can take away his life For the Tyrant exercent hauing described him to be a Prince that doth wilfully dissolue all or the chiefest compacts of the commonwealth he concludeth against him Hunc tollant vel Pacifice vel cum Bello qui ea potestate donati sunt vt rgeni Ephori vel omnium ordinum conventus publicus The Peeres of the kingdome or the publique assembly of states ought to destroy him either by peaceable practises or open warre haec ille Anno 1588. Hermanus Renecherus published obseruations vpon the first Psalme wherein he investeth the Presbiterie with all the Popes prerogatiues Concerning the Presbiterian power ouer kings This is his notable annotation pag. 72. God saith he hath ordained the Ciuill Magistrate for the good of the ecclesiasticall order therefore the ecclesiastical state is the highest throne of Gods earthly kingdome the supreame seate of all excellencie and the chiefest court wherin God himselfe is president to distribute eternall gifts to his servants Whereas the politicall Empire is but as it were an inferiour bench wherein iustice is administred according to the prescription of the ecclesiasticall soueraigntie Thus fatre Renecherus Robert Rollocke a man otherwise verie learned is caried with the current of this error and borrowed his assertion of M. Fenner whose words he expoundeth by way of paraphrasis In Daniel c. 5. p. 150. in his commentaries on Daniel printed at Edingburge 1591. Though the chiefe lawfull Magistrate saith M. Rollocke doe many things vniustly and tyrannously he may not rashly be violated by them especially which haue not authoritie but the Nobles or the publike assemblie of states must reduce him to his dutie by reproofe and all other lawfull meanes 1. Sam. 14.46 If he doe still persist in open and desperate tyrannie wilfully dissoluing all or the chiefest compacts of the common wealth priuate men must not yet medle with him onely the Peeres or the publike assemblie of all states to whom that charge belongeth must prouide that the Church and Commonwealth come not to desolation though it cannot otherwise be done then by the death and destruction of the tyrant Better it is that an euill king be destroyed then the Church and state together ruined Thus farre Rollocke For proofe he referreth his reader first to the 1. Sam. 14.46 viz. Then Saul came vp from the Philistims and the Philistims went to their own place ergo Kings that are wicked may be reduced to their dutie by the Peeres or assemblie of states according to the rules of the newe Puritan logique Secondly for the killing and destroying of kings he referreth his readers to the 2. regum c. 11. v. 4.5.6.7 which place I thinke he neuer vouchsafed to looke vpon but set it downe as he found it quoted in Fenners diuinitie from whom he hath taken all the rest I will make an end with William Bucanus whose booke was published at the request and with the approbation of Beza and Goulartius maine pillars of the Church of Geneva 1602. 〈…〉 pag. 〈…〉 They saith Bucanus which haue any part of office in the publike administration of the Commonwealth as the Ouerseers Senators Consuls Peeres or Tribunes may restraine the insolencie of euill kings Thus farre he This Puritan-dangerous error is directly repugnant to the Law the Gospel the precepts of the Apostles the practise of Martyrs and the doctrine of the Fathers Councels and other classicall Writers as I haue prooued in the sixe former Chapters and will more directly shew by the grace of God in my other booke wherein the holy texts of Scripture which the Papists and Puritans doe damnably abuse against the Ecclesiasticall and Civill authoritie of Kings shall be answered by the godly Protestants whose labour God vsed to reforme his Church since the yeare of our Lord 1517. and by the ancient Fathers and orthodoxall Writers in euery age of the Church This Puritan-position which authoriseth Nobles and assemblies of States against wicked kings is the very assertion of the most seditious Iesuits that haue liued in our age as I will demonstrate by two or three Iohannes Mariana whose booke seemeth to be written in defence of Clement the fryer who stabbed Henrie the 3. king of France The