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B06798	A dialogue between R---- and F----, concerning a discourse entitul'd, The view of an ecclesiastick in his socks and buskins: or, a just reprimand given to Mr. Alsop. Wherein is discover'd, an unheard-of discord between the author and himself. / By a friend to the cause of Mr. Lobb, the worth of Mr. Williams, and the persons of both.	Young, Samuel, fl. 1684-1700.	1698 (1698)	Wing Y78A; ESTC R186944	15,451	46

●●der the a●tecedent Government as well as the ●terior Examination and Censure of my reason R. Tho' we have your word for it no man ●●ll or can believe you F. Say what you will p. 122 I have done this ●●rk with the manners of a Gentleman R. Some will say whom I cannot confute ●ith the rudeness of a Tinker F. I sa● most of the Salt and Pepper as well 〈◊〉 Vinegar which this work would have born are 〈…〉 till the next encounter with Mr. Alsop 〈◊〉 he throw himself in my way again Mr. Alsop ●●e Presbyterian Preacher say I hath outdone the ●ost libertine and licentious among the Poets in ●ll that is unmannerly rude clownish detra●ive and impious R. You must then f●tch your Salt Pepper ●nd Vinegar out of some Quackers writing George ●o● will help you to thou Conjurer thou ●itch thou Devil c. or Mr. Penn or Sam. ●isher thou B●lz●bub the Pr●nce of Devils F. I confess in your Book are fine Strokes ●ood Apothegins but the Sentences are too nu●erous and of the same import Here 's a Tree ●ull of large Leaves but little Fruit much Sawce but little Meat many phrases but li●● matter the substance of all might have bee● two Sheets but you have done the same thi●● ad nauseam and yet promise as to your 〈◊〉 and counsel us too âgainst hard words 〈◊〉 provoking reflections Thus when I have b●● reading the Book I have imagin'd my self befo●● a drunken man who in the midst of his C●●● had heated his Nose and unhinged his Tong 〈◊〉 and yet before and after every Cup would re●● a Lecture of Sobriety and Temperance and 〈◊〉 claim against Drunkenness till he either f●● asleep or dropt under the Board by his excessi●● drinking Suppose he should say Oh my friend I desire you all to be temperate Drunkemi●● metamorphoseth a man into a be ast Then ta●● off the other large Cup or Glass then wh●● his Eyes star'd he goes on with pious Counse●●● Be not drunk with wine wherein is excess 〈◊〉 filled with the spirit I am glad Sirs my Te●●per my Education my Religion will not perm●● me to drink immoderately Off goes the othe●● Cup or Glass at last he tells them who neve● were intemperate as he O ye drunken Dog● learn to speak soberly as I do You Rogues an● drunken Devils act soberly as I do c. So Sin have you written and spoken and therefore 〈◊〉 am resolved to reason with you no more no● to hear one word you say F. Then I will hear thee R what have you to say to me or what Counsel to give me R. Void no more Books you have too man● ●f late which give a woful hogo then for a ●ause and then against it get an honest Heart ●nd beware of a Sceptical Head put off the Mask of a Layman by which you put a Trick ●n the World by Niceties learn some temper ●nd moderation in a Controversie these are ●hings you once pleaded for and seem'd to ●ractise I believe it to be a great Error to assert the Suffering of Christ not to be properly or formally but materially or analogically call'd Punishments or to say man's Sin was not the Causa meritoria but pro causa or Occasion of Christ's Death and Sufferings that let some men do what they will to distinguish Mr. Baxter into Orthodoxness no man sure can into Pru●dence It must be fatal to lay aside terms used 〈◊〉 the Orthodox in a Controversie and to take up with such as are used by the worst of Hereticks tho' men say He meant not this but meant that I dare not say with Dr. Goodwin that I greatly doubt Mr. Baxter 's Conversion nor with Mr. Herle that it had been good for the Church of God if he had never been born nor with Mr. Capel that his Parents might repent that ever they sent him to School nor will I say what the famous Jasper Hicks in the West said of him yet I cannot but bewail the Errors he hath set on foot I think to be plain Mr. Lobb hath granted the Baxterians too much by rejecting any such gloss on 2 Gen. 17 Thou shalt dye or thy Surety For is that Sentence definitive or comminatory only if a Threat that might be revoked like that of 3 Jon. Within forty days Nineveh shall be destroy●● or to Hezekiah Set thy house in order for t●● shalt dye and not live if so then after man 〈◊〉 sin'd God could have pardoned him witho● satisfaction or without giving a Redeemer 〈◊〉 the World will not this too much ma●● Christ to die in vain What God might ha●● done antecedently to this Sentence I will n●● say and I think it was a bold Question for 〈◊〉 Owen and Mr. Gilbert but consequently on the he could not If the Sentence were definitiv● and being once gone out of the mouth of Go● could not be recalled then if not thou or th● Surety be intended I cannot see but that a S●●viour is precluded God could not be true 〈◊〉 his word if ever a Saviour died for man an● not man himself with me there is no rem●●●●● the immediate Offender the actual Transgr●●sor and his Descendents must die But I wi●● not launch out here Mr. Alsop Mr. Williams and Mr. Lobb an● all three men of great worth and there is n●● necessity in a Controversie to magnifie one and depretiate another Mr. Lobb when young was an Old Boy one of great learning and deep thoughts and therefore it was no small Error to represent him to the World as an unfit man● for an Argument or a Disputation I have hear● Mr. Williams laugh at them that have censure● Mr. Lobb's preaching and heard him say H● was a great Preacher and I think these two might soon be good friends were it not for ill Agents between both They both have written well against the Crispians or Antinomians the impenitent Believers as I often call them of this Age who make Faith Assurance and this to be had without any Grace or Change in man fetching its Ranges in the Regions of Love as I heard a D. lately to preach and so this Faith brings down Sanctification Now I would fain know whether this Faith be a living Faith or a dead Faith if a living Faith whether this be not a part of Sanctification if a dead Faith whether there be any thing in God's Promise or in the nature of the thing it self that this dead Faith should bring down Sanctification We are often ask'd would we not advise ungodly men to come to Christ 1. If they mean by coming to Christ a believing Christ is the Author and Finisher of every Grace none deny it here we direct them 2. But if they mean a perswasion they belong to Christ tho' they have not repented this we deny Repentance we know among those men is nothing they keep the Name and make it as Faith but part with the Thing Compunction and Sadness and Heart-rending

A DIALOGUE BETWEEN R and F Concerning a Discourse entitul'd The View of an Ecclesiastick in his Socks and Buskins OR A Iust Reprimand given to Mr. Alsop Wherein is discover'd An unheard-of Discord between the Author and Himself Quid dignum tanto feret hic Promissor hiatu Hor. Art Po. 1 JAMES 8. A double-minded Man is unstable in all his ways By a Friend to the Cause of Mr. Lobb the Worth of Mr. Williams and the Persons of both London Printed for J. Marshal at the Bible in Gracechurch-street 1698. A DIALOGUE BETWEEN R and F R. WELL met Sir F. I wish it may be so for some think we never as yet met well that never was the least Harmony but greatest Discord imaginable as in our Principles and Practises so in our Discourses and printed Books too especially about Politicks I therefore more than believe we shall certainly fall out and make sport and merriment for all that see us and hear us talk But do you not think Mr. Alsop is justly charged with a ludicrous way of speaking of the Eternal Counsels of God and of the great Articles of the Christian Faith as he is charged in the Preface and often in the Book The Reprimand R. No man doubts it every man blames him here himself excepted and I now hope this Exception will not be long liv'd It seems to his Adversaries and Advocates too to be a Sin of a deep dye that hath too great an affinity with his 5 Dan. 3 4 5 6. when they brought the golden Vessels of the Temple as common ones in their Feasts for which was a Hand-writing against the Wall Let him remember this in his Writings which are too much tinctur'd with Levity If he or any other doubt it I only pray them melius inquirendum that they would better enquire That he is a man of an unbridled Fancy cannot be denied A Joke and sometimes an unsavory one and the more prophane when sacred tickleth like a Sneeze that there is no rest till it be out though never so offensive to chaste Ears Non tutum est ludere sacris is in every man's Mouth This Sin makes great breaches in the Conscience D. Wilde as is hinted some months before his death paid dear for his Levity and so may Mr. Alsop in time I hope on this side the Grave Give I pray your Character of him F. I will so behave my self in the Reflections I am to make as not to depart from the Rules of good breeding p. 14. And therefore I say Mr. Alsop is delirious a mad-man distracted He slanders and lampoons an Adversary when his business should be modestly to confute him This is not consonant with nor reconcilable to me I therefore promise There shall be nothing course or unsavory but all palatable and well drest I will perform a Duty that I conceive to be lawful R. I doubt you are not he distracted I am sure you talk as such Do you make Promises only to break them and that in the same breath too Is it not your business modestly to confute an Adversary as well as his Or mean you this is his Province only not yours You promise well tho brokenly You will do it I assure you it is high time for you have never done it yet your Practise hath hitherto confuted you I wish ●●●●ay not still I must deal plainly with you You are the most inconsistent man I ever heard F. You are a K to talk thus R. It may be so Sir for I have always been so conversant with you that I may be such as you and it is often said The Oyster-women and Apple-women at Billinsgate seldom speak truth but when they call one-another Whores and Tosspots But there seems to be such Confusion in your Discourse as in the Babel-building You require one thing and use another which puts me in mind of those known witty Verses of Du Bartus Bring me quoth one a Trowel quickly quick He brings him up a Hammer hew this Brick Another crys and then he cleaves a Tree Make fast this Rope and then he lets it flee One calls for Planks another Mortar lacks He brings the first a Stone the last an Ax. F. Hear me then about another thing Mr. Williams and Mr. A. insinuate p. 18 That Mr. Lobb hath been criminally acquainted with Friend Fenwick and Charnock He accuseth the Prefacer of the Defence of the Report as a man disloyal and yet knows not who he is R. If Mr. Lobbe were guilty you have said too much in his vin●●●●tion if not too little You should in short have said more or nothing unless you as some young Conjurer would raise a Spirit you could not allay Were you a Lawyer and to plead the Cause of a Clyent at this rate Six-pence Fee would be too much by a Groat Mr. Lobbe may be as true to the King and his Cause as any man in the Three Kingdoms for ought I know but You Sir are a woful Compurgator F. I say It ought to alarm all Mankind whose Misfortune hath brought them within the Circle of Mr. Williams 's acquaintance and conversation to find how precariously they hold their Lives if he through Caprice and Humor should be displeas'd or but grow jealous that they pay not a profound Devotion to his Person and Opinions R. Oh Brother say no more of him not so much for his sake for as you hate him I do not love him but for our own There are many foul Stories of him I wish they had been true but they wanted Proof his Enemies confest and Truth too say his Friends F. Say what you will His Conscience Breeding and Judgment be of a piece p. 19. and his Language is of alliance with his Birth and Breeding his Rhetorick is boorish and clownish R. Some that are intimate with him and no Neonomians or Baxterians I assure you are forced by much observation to acknowledge the contrary to the former part of your Charge and his Writings justifie him against the latter part F. The Presbyterians are tinctur'd with Republican Principles and therefore not so loyal and zealous for Monarchy R. You cannot but know where there is one Presbyterian so there are five Congregational Men but any thing to serve a Turn You once blamed the Presbyterian for not being so F. Mr. Williams also p. 20 prostituted and debauched the Pulpit by harranguing his Auditors with an Invective against K. James and the Jesuits when his whole work in that place should have been to preach the Gospel and not vented a Satyr or read a Lecture of Politicks R. Did you not say That neither your Nature nor Education nor Religion would suffer you to be guilty of that fault for which you censure your Adversary Mr. A. and yet you out-do him by ten fold When treated he an Adversary at this rate Thus according to our English plain Proverbs The Devil reproves Sin The Kettle calls the Brandice smut Catalina Cathegos when

Passion is up Reason is down Speak soft speak soft Treason will out Is it become an Offence to preach against King James what man and the Jesuites too Hath ●e done as you preach'd against him and for him too Did he blow the Trumpet to raise the Nation for King William and against King James and after so happy a Change without any just Cause against King William and for King James Did you never triumph at the death of the Martyr and repeat such Verses as those I have not the Copy and therefore may content my self with the sense on the Thirtieth of January See the Sot to Church reels out Who now is plaguily devout It is the Day in which he fell Martyr to the Cause of Hell It is our Saint's Canonization Justly crown'd with Decollation To us of late in wrath were given Two cursed Tyrants and a Stallion Fill the Glass with sparkling Red Look 't was thus the Tyrant bled Thus our Fathers let us see Kings are Flesh and Blood as we Now may our banish'd Tarquins Fate Prove as just but not so great May blest Lewis for old Scores Turn him p●orly out of doors A cursed shameful Death attend him May a friendly Halter end him c. Or did you never please your self with hearing or reciting the Epitaph made by a Boy on Ned Hyde Here lies Ned Hyde Because he dy'd But I had rather It had been his Father Had it been his Sister No one would have mist her Well for the three Nations Had it been all the Relations c. How often have you roar'd over strong Liquors the known Verses on the Birth of the pretended Prince of Wales and the day of Thanksgiving Two Toms and a Nat In Council sat To rigg out a Thanksgiving And to make a Prayer For a thing in the Air That 's neither dead nor living The Dame in the East As 't is exprest In her last blest Epistle Vnto our Lady Bequeath'd a Baby With Coral Bells and Whistle For this intent To her she sent Her Diamond-Rings and Bodkin To give her leave For to conceive Pray was not this an odd thing Here 's a Cup of Ale To the Prince of Wale Tho' some are of opinion When all is out A double Clout May cover his whole Dominion Caesar to keep the Laws did plight his troth He made his Will his Law to save his Oath Did not you talk every where of the Suppositious Child which you now say was not so And that the Earl of Essex cut not his own Throat and now say ●he did and that you invented that Lye Who then can take your Word for any thing And it is often said You will never be quiet till you are hang'd F. My Word will be taken I am sure without any ones being bound for me that I shall be quiet then if not before But however R. they say Marriage and Hanging come by Destiny and if so you may be hang'd as soon as I R. and with the same Cord too R. You know it was often said of John Lilbourn If there were but one man in the World there would be no Quietness for John would quarrel with Lilbourn and Lilbourn with John So it is said of you but this cost both dear for John had Four hundred Stripes when whipp'd in London Streets and Lilbourn had Four hundred more between them both Eight hundred I wish you better Luck Sir And for your Writings you know the witty Letters of Mr. Glanvil and Sherlock in their Account of your common-place-Common-place-book where Mr. Glanvil proves when writing against him you stole many of your Rhetorical Flowers out of his Books particularly the Vanity of Dogmatizing and as he merrily exprest it you at the same time pick't his Pocket and cut his Throat F. Let us go on honest R to other matters R. I have no more Honesty than you nor never shall whilst so conversant together Vvaque conspecta livorem ducit ab uva F. Mr. Alsop p. 22 lays claim to a Talent Nature hath indispos'd him for The most that can be allow'd him is that he is fit to be a Droll or Buffoon He can be accounted a Witty man only among little people that have no Genius or good Relish Among none whose excellency of Sense and accuracy of Gust distinguishes them from the insipid and rude Rabble All that can be allow'd him is He may set up for a Merry Andrew or hire himself at a Bartholomew-Fair True Wit p. 22 consists in jnstness of Thoughts to have Ideas of a matter p. 23 comprehensive of all that imports and reaches to the utmost dimensions of it and the Harmony that is among them c. R. Many almost all acknowledge as once you did Mr. Alsop to be a Wit I am sure I did and to be plain to my knowledge so did you when he wrote against your Adversary as well as his and now he hath crost you a little you shamefully recall what you have said times without number and clap which is worse the quite contrary in its place But Sir you rather give us a description of Wisdom than Wit that is seated in the Understanding this in the Fancy And such a description give you too that I dare pawn my Credit if I had any that every man wants no meer Man but the Protoplast had it or ever will F. Mr. Alsop will not allow himself to be a Lunatick and delirious p. 24. I tell him of Gentlemanly breeding and of Vngentlemanly things R. I pray tell me some of Mr. Alsop's Expressions that prove him to be no Wit F. He says When Mr. L. would ride in triumph over dull Presbyterians some one should have adorn'd his Chariot p. 25 and talks of S. L. that is Slanderous Libeller and that a Libel is a Lye with a Bell at the end of it R. What ails all this E. He talks also of Ordures p. 27. R. So do you in the same Book and what if all be not of a piece Was Mervil a Wit Was Etchard another Both stumbled now and then as well as Mr. Alsop tho' it may be not so unhappily as he on the Threshold of a particular Book about the Shoehorn I know Sir you love amorous Songs is not this Wit to a Sweet-heart When first I saw thee thou didst sweetly play The gentle Thief and stolst my heart away Send me it back again or send thine own For two's too much for one since I have none But if thou wilt not I will say thou art A sweet-fac'd Creature with a double heart Or that of Dr. Wilde to John Crosse when sitting against him I doubt John Cross that thou hast wed thy wo Thy Wife is Cross but thou hast made her so He answer'd My wife is cross 't is true but sometimes mild But it 's well known thy wife is always Wild. Were the Replies to K. C. You have the Valour of your Grandfather the Policy of your Father the Honesty of

Table ungod●● wicked men this man of Modesty com●● out and trigs them with his Free Admissio●● He stops not here but flies in the Face 〈◊〉 our first Reformers and that not in a sma●● point about Discipline but in a weight 〈◊〉 point about Doctrine He disowns th● Doctrine of Justification by imputed Rig●teousness under the very notion as Prot●●stant which neither his Master nor Eld●● Brethren had the Face to do He stops n●● here but contrary to the Papists as well 〈◊〉 our selves asserts the Salvation of Heathe●● by the Light of Nature without Faith i● Christ and knowledge of his Word Th●● man so much applauded for Modesty an● Charity and that in opposition to M●● Williams I speak my Heart by his Let●●● to me and by the Account I can get o● 〈◊〉 by some others is a conceited uncharitab●● Opinionist F. This Mr. Williams you talk of ca●● neither speak nor write Syntaxical Latin 〈◊〉 he can understand a common Roman Autho● p. 55. And I can shew Mr. Alsop too to 〈◊〉 a Dunce in Philology he hath neithe● grace nor good manners p. 72. The Beli●● and Doctrine of the man are not to be take● on his Ravings on his Fits of Lunacy an● Distraction but by his Antisozzo which h● wrote before he became delirious or under the decay of the Moon or in his Lucida p. 75. Only it will be necessary for his Aud●tors carefully to remark how the Tide flows 01 at London-bridge and Westminster-stairs that they may thereby calculate at what seasons they may give Credit to the Doctrine of their Pastor Yet I say after all p. 81 I do freely acknowledge that there is no man of more Latitude as to Principles or measure of Charity Good-nature or Civil manners than I desire to be Nay I take pleasure p. 81 in my self to find I am by Education Principles and Temper carried into the greatest Aversation imaginable against them who are given to Calumny c. R. I must deal plainly with you now is this your Meekness and Civility you have contrary to your repeated Protestations and Promises outdone your Adversary by a hundred fold Say next that Mr. Williams is no Man but an Elephant and that Mr. Alsop is a Horse All will say Never were there more impudent Untruths told the World no wonder hardly can I find the man that cares to own or justifie the Book F. I call Mr. Alsop p. 96 This Holder-forth R. Was not this a term invented by the Atheistical and Prophane and therefore more to be abhorr'd on this account tha● the Story of the Cloak so invented as your say against D. B F. I call him also Westminster Parson p. 97 and say He can be at one time Fool at another time Knave p. 104. R. This will please no sober Independent sure but only some little Crispianish sort of them F. They sure will never be pleas'd by me for I say as the Atheists Heaven hath no God in it the Socinians Hell hath no Devil in it so the Antinomians Justification hath no Faith in it R. That too great a Load may not lie on Mr. Alsop I must confess it was his great unhappiness that he should fall on a mistake about D. B. where he might have made his choice I am not of their mind who sa●● Had all been true it ought to have been cover'd No say I but openly protested against with the greatest Zeal and Indignation imaginable Do men think they are on Stages when in Pulpits Every thing Theatrical should be banish'd thence Our common Cause of Nonconformity throughout all England suffers and that not a little by this Theological Mountebank I never heard him but once and then he took up the Hour-glass and held it forth raving like a mad-man Look here Even so I have heard from 〈◊〉 worthy Divine now dead who was his Au●tor woful Pulpit-stuff of his His first Book●● Meditations is intolerable unworthy impudent ●●ssages about God World hang thee and all ●●at love thee c. Yet a Preface is there before ●●e Book with an Epistle of a Friend of his to ●im who magnifies him as he modestly prints 〈◊〉 for his Ingenuity greater than that of his ●●ethren I know whatever Zeal he pretends to ●or Nonconformity Purity of Worship he was about to conform a little before K. James's In●●lgence came out How well antick Tricks Ceremonies and a Liturgy had been matcht together would others had had this Pedantick Self-admirer and Villifier notorious Villifier of Ministers to the injudicious Multitude rather than we Must such a man be caress'd and a man of Mr. Williams's parts gravity and 〈◊〉 preaching be postpon'd to a Jack Puddin I ●ay it is well known Mr. Williams's natural parts are to admiration and his acquir'd parts above contempt One ounce of Mother-wit is worth a pound of Clergy is a common and true Proverb F. I censure Mr. Alsop for talking of the seasonable death of two known Antinomians Mr. Mathers and Mr. Cole and say p. 119 Mr. Alsop can never hope to dye the death of the righteous nor to deserve the burial of a man he must expect to depart under the Infamy if he escape the Horror of the wicked and to have his remembrance perpetuated by such an Epitaph as might be written upon a Tyger or a Bear M●● sop p. 22 a little pitiful Tool himself t●● others so too R. What mean these Heats these preter●ral Heats Had the Charge been true b●● meant no more than that their death was s●●nable for Mr. Lobb who as he imagin'd 〈◊〉 I think without cause took liberty to exp●●● himself more like an Anti-antinomian than 〈◊〉 durst to do had they been alive Many wor●● Congregational men bewail'd their too gr●● Propensities to some of Crisp's mad Notions F. I blame Mr. Alsop for making Mr. Ho●● Trimmer that is a Hypocrite and a Disse●bler and one ●ho guides himself in his politi●● and moral conduct by no other Principles sa●● by those of Worldly Safety and Secular Intere●● This is equivalent to Rogue and Rascal p. 10 And thus is he brought forth as a Knave in 〈◊〉 view of the world p. 108. R. You cannot in your Conscience believ●● Mr. Alsop intended any such thing You kno●● how many Ministers talk of Mr. H. as well a● Hearers as a kind of Temporizer and think h● hath not at last imitated Gentlewomen by kirching so often in the Pulpit with his Hands on his Belly then on one side then on t'other for nothing tho' no doubt they are to blame who talk too much of this and therefore remember Mr. Alsop hath great company and good too in his Censure tho it may be all to blame F. I say Mr. Daniel Burgis is above Mr. Al●● and Mr. Williams in Vprightness and In●rity R. Comparisons they say are odious and I 〈◊〉 sure this is so and the worse because re●●te exceeding remote from Truth F. Well R believe me I have my Thoughts