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A64939 A review and examination of a book bearing the title of The history of the indulgence wherein the lawfulness of the acceptance of the peaceable exercise of the ministry granted by the Acts of the magistrates indulgence is demonstrated, contrary objections answered, and the vindication of such as withdraw from hearing indulged ministers is confuted : to which is added a survey of the mischievous absurdities of the late bond and Sanquhair declaration. Vilant, William. 1681 (1681) Wing V383; ESTC R23580 356,028 660

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minister_n and_o evidence_n that_o they_o refuse_v obedience_n to_o those_o instruction_n and_o give_v a_o sufficient_a testimony_n against_o they_o those_o minister_n be_v interrogate_v by_o the_o council_n whether_o or_o not_o they_o have_v preach_v upon_o the_o 29_o of_o may_n two_o or_o three_o of_o they_o who_o have_v preach_v that_o day_n upon_o the_o account_n that_o it_o be_v their_o ordinary_a lecture-day_n reply_v that_o they_o have_v preach_v whereupon_o they_o be_v command_v forth_o all_o the_o rest_n answer_v that_o they_o have_v not_o preach_v and_o be_v interrogate_v wherefore_o they_o do_v not_o preach_v they_o reply_v as_o they_o have_v before_o agree_v that_o they_o be_v not_o free_a to_o observe_v any_o anniversary_n day_n of_o humane_a institution_n for_o religious_a worship_n and_o that_o because_o they_o see_v no_o ground_n for_o it_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n beside_o which_o they_o can_v not_o act_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o god_n solemn_a worship_n whereupon_o they_o be_v fine_v by_o the_o council_n in_o the_o half_a of_o a_o year_n stipend_n which_o act_n be_v intimate_v to_o they_o the_o tuesday_n follow_v 1._o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n to_o allege_v that_o those_o two_o or_o three_o who_o preach_v do_v observe_v the_o 29_o of_o may_n and_o it_o have_v be_v a_o reasonless_a and_o ridiculous_a thing_n to_o have_v forbear_v to_o preach_v upon_o their_o ordinary_a lecture-day_n because_o it_o be_v the_o 29_o of_o may._n 2._o nor_o any_o ground_n for_o quarrel_v at_o the_o indulge_v minister_n for_o not_o speak_v against_o the_o narrative_a of_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n that_o be_v neither_o in_o their_o summons_n nor_o yet_o in_o their_o sentence_n and_o which_o be_v real_o make_v void_a by_o that_o act_n make_v in_o the_o forego_n august_n which_o be_v put_v in_o the_o place_n of_o
case_n he_o will_v have_v mercy_n and_o not_o sacrifice_v obj._n may_v not_o the_o magistrate_n make_v a_o general_a muster_n through_o all_o his_o dominion_n in_o one_o day_n of_o the_o week_n and_o discharge_v public_a sermon_n upon_o that_o day_n answ_n that_o be_v no_o imposition_n prejudging_a the_o service_n of_o christ_n for_o minister_n may_v preach_v as_o convenient_o and_o ready_o more_o convenient_o upon_o any_o other_o day_n of_o the_o week_n it_o pertain_v to_o the_o magistrate_n to_o make_v law_n and_o constitution_n for_o the_o advancement_n of_o the_o kirk_n and_o policy_n thereof_o without_o usurp_a any_o thing_n that_o pertain_v not_o to_o the_o civil_a sword_n etc._n etc._n 2._o book_n of_o discip_n chap._n 10._o cite_v if_o i_o remember_v before_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v make_v law_n for_o advancement_n of_o church-policy_n but_o not_o for_o its_o detriment_n his_o power_n about_o church_n matter_n be_v cumulative_a not_o destructive_a and_o if_o he_o shall_v not_o make_v civil_a law_n prejudicial_a to_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o church_n far_o less_o shall_v he_o make_v ecclesiastic_a canon_n and_o canon_n that_o will_v be_v hurtful_a though_o they_o be_v form_v by_o a_o church_n judicatory_a for_o here_o there_o be_v two_o fault_n 1._o take_v on_o he_o to_o do_v what_o belong_v to_o ecclesiastic_a court_n 2._o make_v rule_n which_o upon_o the_o matter_n hinder_v minister_n from_o make_v full_a proof_n of_o their_o ministry_n in_o his_o 2._o he_o quarrel_n at_o the_o term_n intrinsical_o and_o formal_o as_o general_a and_o not_o obvious_o intelligible_a nor_o understand_v by_o every_o one_o answ_n these_o be_v term_n ordinary_o make_v use_n of_o by_o orthodox_n divine_v in_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n they_o be_v special_a and_o specific_a term_n and_o distinguish_v ecclesiastic_a rule_n from_o these_o civil_a law_n and_o constitution_n which_o be_v intrinsical_o and_o formal_o civil_a but_o be_v extrinsical_o and_o objective_o conversant_a about_o ecclesiastic_a matter_n now_o we_o hear_v from_o the_o 10_o chap._n of_o the_o 2d_o book_n of_o discipline_n that_o it_o pertain_v to_o the_o magistrate_n to_o make_v law_n and_o constitution_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o advancement_n of_o the_o kirk_n and_o policy_n thereof_o what_o he_o say_v in_o the_o end_n of_o pag._n 74._o about_o the_o imprisonment_n and_o confinement_n of_o a_o minister_n person_n that_o it_o be_v whole_o political_a and_o no_o more_o ecclesiastical_a than_o any_o other_o thing_n which_o concern_v a_o minister_n person_n as_o his_o hat_n book_n and_o clothes_n and_o the_o like_a this_o show_v that_o the_o minister_n who_o simple_o refuse_v to_o receive_v rule_n and_o instruction_n formal_o and_o intrinsical_o ecclesiastical_a and_o distinguish_v these_o from_o such_o political_a act_n as_o the_o confinement_n in_o refuse_v of_o which_o they_o be_v not_o so_o peremptory_a but_o will_v observe_v or_o not_o observe_v they_o as_o they_o judge_v of_o they_o in_o their_o conscience_n upon_o their_o peril_n do_v in_o this_o act_n very_o rational_o that_o hat_n clothes_n and_o book_n do_v immediate_o concern_v a_o minister_n person_n be_v term_n not_o obvious_o intelligible_a every_o one_o do_v not_o understand_v how_o these_o do_v immediate_o concern_v a_o minister_n person_n he_o who_o will_v have_v other_o speak_v as_o every_o one_o may_v understand_v shall_v have_v speak_v more_o plain_o to_o make_v minister_n clothes_n whole_o political_a without_o any_o distinction_n be_v a_o little_a kittle_a but_o it_o be_v like_a he_o have_v not_o have_v mind_n of_o surplice_n etc._n etc._n when_o he_o write_v this_o he_o add_v or_o will_n rule_v make_v concern_v the_o length_n of_o time_n which_o a_o minister_n be_v to_o spend_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o this_o or_o that_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n or_o the_o like_a be_v account_v rule_n extrinsical_o and_o material_o ecclesiastic_a as_o to_o such_o rule_n he_o say_v pag._n 75._o it_o be_v a_o question_n if_o magistrate_n may_v either_o sole_o or_o in_o prima_fw-la instantia_fw-la prescribe_v such_o rule_n to_o minister_n however_o this_o be_v at_o best_a but_o dubious_a and_o it_o be_v to_o i_o at_o least_o very_o uncertain_a what_o rule_v these_o be_v which_o may_v be_v call_v external_o and_o material_o ecclesiastical_a i_o can_v have_v wish_v that_o some_o instance_n hereof_o have_v be_v give_v etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o if_o he_o will_v have_v deal_v fair_o he_o shall_v have_v use_v the_o ordinary_a term_n and_o not_o make_v term_n of_o his_o own_o for_o rule_n formal_o and_o intrinsical_o ecclesiastical_a be_v distinguish_v from_o civil_a law_n and_o constitution_n objective_o and_o extrinsical_o ecclesiastical_a and_o i●_n his_o call_v they_o rule_v external_o and_o material_o ecclesiastical_a be_v a_o miscal_v of_o they_o that_o he_o may_v make_v a_o knot_n in_o a_o rush_n where_o he_o find_v none_o 2._o if_o a_o indulge_v minister_n have_v make_v a_o question_n if_o the_o magistrate_n may_v limit_v the_o length_n of_o time_n which_o a_o minister_n be_v to_o spend_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o this_o or_o that_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n and_o have_v but_o doubt_v of_o it_o as_o a_o thing_n dubious_a it_o be_v very_o probable_a that_o the_o historian_n will_v have_v make_v this_o no_o less_o than_o a_o betray_n of_o the_o cause_n he_o make_v hideous_a outcry_n against_o they_o upon_z as_o little_a ground_n but_o see_v he_o himself_o grant_v that_o some_o of_o the_o instruction_n give_v by_o the_o magistrate_n be_v formal_o and_o intrinsical_o ecclesiastical_a pag._n 65._o he_o be_v as_o much_o oblige_v as_o the_o indulge_v minister_n to_o show_v what_o be_v the_o rule_n which_o be_v vvn_n from_o these_o they_o may_v be_v clear_a with_o he_o that_o some_o of_o these_o rule_n be_v such_o and_o why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o as_o well_o as_o for_o he_o to_o doubt_v concern_v other_o of_o they_o 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