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A46634 A vindication of that part of Spira's despair revived which is challenged by the Anabaptists, and shamefully callumniated by John Wells, a Baptist preacher : wherein also some things are handled relating to infant baptism and dipping in baptism : particularly it is evinced that dipping is not essential to the sacrament of baptism / by Thomas James, author of Spira's despair revived. James, Thomas.; James, Thomas. Spira's despair revived. 1695 (1695) Wing J437; ESTC R32366 32,972 42

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