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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A41776	A dialogue between the Baptist and the Presbyterian Wherein the Presbyterians are punished by their own pens, for their cruel and soul-devouring doctrines, making God the ordainer of all the sins of men and devils: and reprobating the greatest part of mankind, without any help of salvation. Whereunto is annexed, a treatise of election, intituled, The order of causes: formerly published by an eminent servant of Christ, and now republished with some explication concerning free-will. By Thomas Grantham, messenger of the baptized churches in Lincolnshire.	Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692.	1691 (1691)	Wing G1530; ESTC R216815	20,667	29

A DIALOGUE Between the BAPTIST AND THE PRESBYTERIAN WHEREIN The Presbyterians are punished by their own Pens for their Cruel and Soul-devouring Doctrines making God the Ordainer of all the Sins of Men and Devils And reprobating the greatest part of Mankind without any help of Salvation Whereunto is annexed A Treatise of ELECTION Intituled The Order of Causes Formerly published by an Eminent Servant of Christ and now republished with some Explication concerning FREE-WILL By THOMAS GRANTHAM Messenger of the Baptized Churches in Lincolnshire Psal 64. 7 8 9. But God shall shoot at them with an Arrow suddenly shall they be wounded So shall they make their own Tongue to fall upon themselves all that see them shall flee away And all Men shall fear and shall declare the Work of God for they shall wisely consider of his doing London Printed in the Year 1691. An Epistolary Preface to the Citizens of the Ancient City of Norwich Honoured Sirs GOD's Providence having ordered my Refidence in this City and my Business being to Preach the Gospel I have endeavoured to perform my Office amongst you for which I have met with many unkind and undue Reflections and more especially from that sort of Professors who have espoused the Principles and Doctrine of Mr. John Calvin concerning his imaginary Decree of absolute and irrespective Reprobation Two Confessions of Faith I find much received in this City containing these words God did from all Eternity freely and unchangeably ordain ALL THINGS whatsoever come to pass And that his Almighty Power extendeth it self even to the first Fall and all other Sins of Angels and Men and that not by a bare permission And that By the Decree of God some Angels and Men were fore-ordained to Everlasting Death And that these Angels and Men thus predestinated and fore-ordained are particularly and unchangeably designed and their Number so certain and definite that it cannot be either encreased or diminished See the Conf. of Faith by the Assemb of Divines In which Confession they also teach That God did not decree any of those things because he foresaw they would come to pass But they make the Decree of God the FIRST Cause of all things whatsoever comes to pass Chap. 5. Sect. 2. So that according to this Doctrine all the Sins both of Devils and Men from the beginning to the end of the World was by force of God's Decree THE FIRST CAUSE unavoidably necessary and hereupon also the unavoidable Damnation of just such a Number both of Angels and Men as God would have to be ●…ed and no more And hereupon it will follow that God's Decree was 〈…〉 that Cain killed his Brother Abel that Ruben polluted his Fathe 〈…〉 David committed Adultery with Bathsheba and murdered 〈…〉 and of all the Villanies in the World The odiousness of w 〈…〉 will better appear if we put this Case A oweth B 100 l. he pays it for so it was decreed but then comes C in the Night and robs B of his 100 l. and also cuts his Throat And this comes to pass also by force of God's Decree unavoidably because say they God did from all Eternity unchangeably decree all things whatsoever comes to pass That I do them no wrong by thus speaking hear the words of Calvin himself Inst L. 1. c. 17. Thieves and Murderers are the Instruments of Divine Providence which the Lord himself useth to execute his Judgments which he hath determined in himself and that he works through them When I had seriously considered that many were ensnared in these dreadful and blasphemous Doctrines to the exasperating their Spirits against the Truth of the Gospel and against such as do sincerely preach it as the Means of Salvation to all Men scandalizing them by the Name of Free-willers c. I did find my self concern'd to testify against this unmerciful Doctrine and this unrighteous Accusation about Free-will * Concerning which Point of Free-will you shall have an Account in the last Treatise where it will appear they that accuse others do hold as much as the Persons they accuse if not more concerning Free-will And to preach the Everlasting Gospel that God is not willing that any should perish but that All should come to repentance 2 Pet. 3. 9. And being well assured of the sincerity of my Doctrine and purpose I did as Occasion offered assert the Truth both by Word and Writing And hearing that Dr. John Collings was the greatest Assertor of the Reprobatarian Principles I found an opportunity to write to him upon the occasion of a Passage in his Book Intituled A Discourse of Divine Love pag. 259. which I now publish with his Answer and my Reply to prevent and correct false Reports which have gone abroad amongst some concerning these Papers The Doctor 's Proposition is this God cannot seriously act and be finally opposed A dangerous Position it is as if the final Impenitency of Sinners were the issue of some want of seriousness in God that is though he calls them to Repentance yet he does not inwardly intend that they shall repent and to this purpose he quotes several Scriptures all which will be evident by the Papers following My first to him proceeds thus Some Observations upon a Passage of Dr. Collings in his Discourse of Divine Love pag. 259. Viz. God cannot seriously act and be finally opposed 1. HEre the final Impenitency of Sinners is charged upon God for that he is not serious in leading them to Repentance directly contrary to the Word of God Rom. 2. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11. 2. It reflecteth upon God's gracious Expostulation and acting in a way of Mercy with Cain who opposed God finally as if God was not serious with him 3. It reflecteth upon God's striving by his Spirit with the old World as if God did not strive seriously nor act seriously by the preaching of Noah wherein God waited long and yet they opposed finally 4. It reflecteth upon God's Counsel to the Pharisees quoted by the Doctor as if he was not serious in that Counsel which he by his Servant John the Baptist gave them to bring forth Fruits meet for Repentance for they resisted finally as the Doctor himself intimates 5. It renders God not serious in sending his Prophets to turn Israel from their Iniquities Jer. 7. 13. which is quoted by the Doctor for they did oppose finally and were cast out and the Prophet was forbidden to pray for them Jer. 7. 15 16. 6. It impeacheth God as not serious in calling Israel to Repentance Psal 81. quoted by the Doctor for they opposed finally and God gave them up to their own Hearts Lusts and they walked in their own Counsels Ver. 12. 7. The Doctor reflects dishonour upon Christ as not serious in his actings towards Jerusalem when he would have gathered them the words are quoted by the Doctor when yet he wept over them for their final Opposition For the things which did once belong to their Peace