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A44841 The Quakers house built upon the rock Christ Wherein neither their doctrines, principles, nor practices can be confounded, not disproved; being neither damnable, nor pernitious. As Samuel Hammond hath falsly affirmed in his book called, The Quakers house built upon the sand: or, a discovery of the damnablenes of their pernitious doctrins, in his answer to G.W. which to prove, he lays down seven grounds of delusion, and five arguments of damnable doctrine. But in this answer his seven grounds is proved false in themselves, ...; and his five arguments is proved to be his own false positions, ... as first, he lays down false positions, and then proves them false; and then boasts, as if he had proved our doctrines or principles false: the truth of which is herein clearly made manifest, and wherein he falsly accuseth us, he is justly guilty himselfe. Also the ten fundamentall principles or doctrines of the hireling priest-hood, ... By a servant to the Church of Christ, ... Richard Hubberthorne. ... Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1659 (1659) Wing H3227A; ESTC R221606 34,515 47

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am thy part and thine Inheri●ance among the Children of Israel Ver. 21. And behold I have g●ven of Levy all the tenth in Israel for an Inheritance for their service which they serve even the service of the Tabernacle of the Congregation And hast thou not read Deut. 10. 9. Wherefore Levy hath no part nor Inheritance among their brethren the Lord is his Inheritance as the Lord God promised him c. And hast thou not read Deut. 18. 1. 2. The Priests the Levites and all the Tribe of Leui shall have no p●rt nor Inheritance with Israel they shall eat the Offerings of the Lord made by fire and his Inheritance Therefore shall they have no Inheritance among their Brethren the Lord is their Inheritance as the Lord hath said c. And hast thou not read Joshua 13. 14. Onely unto the Tribe of Levy he gave none Inheritance the sacrifice of the Lord God of Israel made by fire was their Inheritance as the Lord hath said And hast thou not read Ezek. 44 28. I am their Inheritance saith the Lord and ye shall give them no possession in Israel I am their possession Now this was their Inheritance and Possession and that which they had for their service was the Tythe and out of that all the Widowes Strangers and Fatherlesse was to come to the Priests Gate and be satisfied that there should not be a begger in Israel But though the Priests in England have the Tythes yet there are Widowes Strangers and Fatherlesse that wants and many beggers in England and by their covetousnesse is many oppressed and their goods taken from them whereby they are brought to suffer want but the Lord hath opened the bowels of compassion in some to pitty and supply those which the Priests ●er their cov●tous ends make merchandise of Now this I have declared that all such may see themselves if so be that God at any time will give them repentance that they may be saved Another snare hath Sam Hammond runne himselfe into by perverting the Apostles words when he bids them Prove all things and hold fast that which is good these words Sam. Hammond limits to this that they must try what is according to the mind of Christ and hold that Ans. That is not all things but one thing but they were to try all things what was according to the mind of Christ and what was not and try the spirits whether they be of God and when they had tryed what was according to the mind of Christ and what was not and what spirit was of God and what was not then they were to hold fast that which was good But S. H saith must they try sinne and must they goe heare the Papists to try their Doctrine Ans. Thou art very blind and dark in thy understanding Is there no trying of sinne but by entering into the experimentall practice of it Ans. Yes The Lord ha●h given us of his spirit by which we are able to try your Ministery your Wages your Covetousnesse and your cruelty and slandering of the Innocent and yet not enter into any of your practises and as we try you so we doe the Papists likewise not from the Orthodox writers as thou calls them but by the spirit of the living God And Paul did not bid the Thessalonians goe to some Orthodox Writers to try either Spirit or Doctrines by their Books But thy end in speaking these words is That people should not heare us declare the Truth lest they should be converted to God and brought off all false wayes and worships which they have long been kept under by thy perverting of the Scripture to thy own end And if they must goe to thy Books as Orthodox to try us by there they may find thee speaking evill of us without a cause and laying open thy own nakednesse and ignorance of the things of God But if people once come to know the measure of Gods spirit and with that try and prove they will see tha● they have been alwayes learning but was never able to know the truth from any of your Teachings Againe thou goes to excuse the Magistrates of New-castle in their cruelty and hayling of the peaceable people of the Lord out of d●res and saith that it is their Zeale and Glory but Persecution was ever blind and that Zeale which sto●d in it And further thou saith that they know no Law that tolerates their Meetings Answer What! wilt thou shame the Magistrates of New-castle before all people What! ar● they ignorant of the Law of the Nation and of the Instru 〈…〉 of Goverment and by this account thou would ren●er ●hem uncapable of doing justice in New-castle or of executing their place of trust wherein they are put to doe justice and performe the righteousnesse of the Law But when they truely come to see thee and thy words they will have no great incouragement to give thee so great Wages for upbraiding them with their ignorance of the Laws of the Nation Pr. Againe thou empties the Venome of thy heart by false accusing not onely the living but the dead in saying that William Cotesworth of Shields hyred a House in New-castle but before that he could enjoy it the Lord stroke him with madnesse Ans. This is false for he did enjoy the House he hyred and others with him did meet peaceably in it and enjoy the Lords presence and teaching before the Lords stroke as thou calls it but doe not thou accuse the Lords stroke neither doe thou charge God with any indignation against him For when the Lord makes inquisition for the blood of his Saints thou wilt not be cleare in this in saying the Lord did witnesse against him or us in that particular Pr. Againe thou mentions a Shoomaker in New castle which thou saith was one of us and came and rayled against thee and was presently struke mad Ans. Here thou would make people beleeve wonders was he not mad before he rayled against thee And that Shoomaker was never any of us nor owned of us ever to be in the truth and he was mad and distracted before ever be saw us or we him But he that is in the gall of bitternesse must vent it out But the Lord doth keep us clear from the blood of all men and that truth which we are witnesses of shall stand for ever over all our Accusers who are filling up the measure of their iniquities by speaking all manner of evill against us as Christ said they should doe But in this we rejoyce When men speake all manner of evill against us falsly for his name sake for great is our reward in Heaven for even so persecuted they the prophets that went before us and this is that reproach which for his sake we must beare as he hath left us an example for the servant is not greater then his Lord Pr. The last thing in this Book is a story which thou tells to thy own shame Of thy hyring a
That a Star man enlighten in the night but its the Sunn that makes day Ans. A Starre is not pure darknesse for there is some light and according to the measure of its brightnesse t is pure light so thou must have another proofe then that and 〈◊〉 is more properly called darkenesse when there is not so much as the light of a Starre Another proofe is thou sayst Godly Magistrates have two-lights and so two eyes that is the light of Conscience which is as thou saith pure darkenesse and the light of Faith which I say is pure light Ans. These two Eyes are one contrary to the other For light hath no fellowship with darknesse And how can any Magistrate in this state manage justice one of his Eyes the evill eye must be put out if ever he manage justice well for the one Eye will offend the other And if thine Eye offend thee plucke it out as Christ said it is better to doe justice and enter into the Kingdome with one Eye then having two to be cast into Hest fire And this I am sure that neither Magistrate nor any other can enter into the Kingdome while darknesse is his Eye For if the Eye be evill the whole body is full of darknesse as Christ said Mat. 6. 23. But if any judge for God or doe justice for him his Eye must be single that his whole body may be full of light and fulfill Christs words Mat. 6. 22. But we have learned better Doctrine then to take Hammonds two Eyes for a perfect sight And it was this Eye in him which is grosse darknesse with which he hath Read over our Writings and so could not see to speak our own words again because darknesse had blinded his Eye And so all people may now see what light this man hath to Preach and Print withall or to prove damnable Doctrines by But good is the Word of the Lord which said That their folly should be made manifest unto all men as it now is in measure and will be fulfilled Pr. Againe thy spirit is up against the light and in page 18. thou sayst what ever a man may call the light within him if he call it the life of Christ in him yet if he live upon it as his righteousnesse for justification it is a plaine Covenant of Works Ans. Here thou sets thy selfe against the light and truth it selfe in open and wilfull rebellion but it is good for others who have formerly looked upon thee to be a man indewed with Wisedome and Knowledge of the Scriptures and now see thee so manifestly to declare against what they speake for the Scriptures testifie of Christ and saith that in him is life and the life is the light of men and his life is manifest in the mortall bodies and his life they live upon and eat his flesh and drinke his blood or else they had no life in them and living in his life we are the righteousnesse of God in him and in him are all the seed of Israel justified and shall glory And thou that saith to live upon the life of Christ is but a plaine Covenant of Works that 's blasphemy and error and the Lord hath made thee manifest Pr. Another false Doctrine hath Hammond affirmed That there are thousands in their state of darknesse that cannot follow Christ for want of light pag. 13. Ans. Then for what are they condemned Whether are they condemned because they cannot beleeve or because they doe not beleeve on him whom the Father hath sent And whether are they condemned because they cannot follow Christ or because they doe not follow him Or whether is it for want of light or for want of obedience to the light that men is condemned And is it not because they love the darkenesse rather then light when the light is come into the world Is this the condemnation that the light is not come into the world nor given to men or rather is not this the condemnation that light is come into the World and given unto men that every man in him might beleeve Their loving the darknesse rather then the light when come and given Is not this the cause of condemnation If so then Hammonds Doctrine to thousands is false Againe thou objects against G. Whitheads words because he saith that the light is greater then the conscience which is true Then thou sayst How is it that those Saints in New-England never soe the least breaking forth of it in the Indians and in Old-England hundreds manifest no other light but that of a naturall conscience and not much of that neither Ans. The Indians in New-England doe manifest more of the true light of Christ in their Words and Actions and Righteous Dealings then many of those thou calls saints there and it doth break forth to the sight of these that are among them and these hundreds i●Old-England that doe not manifest much of any light Is there ●●ne because they they doe not manifest it Doth not the true light of Christ enlighten people because they doe not manifest it to others that is thy ignorance of the light For they that manifest to others the true light by their obedience to it they shew that they have received Christ the true light and they that doe not manifest it to others they shew that they reject Christ who is the true light and is disobedient to the light wherewith he hath enlightned them and so by that which ap 〈…〉 it is manifest whether they love or hate obey or 〈◊〉 the light which Christ hath enlightened them with 〈…〉 and so the truth of what we have declared concer 〈…〉 the light will stand for a true testimony to the Lord thro 〈…〉 ●ut all generations Now is the day of Gods power where●● his light is broken forth and ●an understanding is begotten in people whereby they can see when the scorner 〈◊〉 his ignorance Thou challenges to shew Scripture that bids you look to ●●e light within you I have shewed thee many Scriptures 〈◊〉 speaks of the light within and Christ within and it is the light of Christ that thou so much hates and us for his sake 〈◊〉 if we had still continued in darknesse and ignorance 〈◊〉 thee then we should have been loved by thee for the World loves its own but because we walk in the light and bears testimony against the darknesse and works of unrighteousnesse therefore dost thou hate us and speak all manner of evill against us Now whereas in many places of thy Book thy scorne and envy and false accusations of G. W. is ●o manifest I shall let that passe and the truth of his words stand over thee for ever and when thou art manifestly declared to have spoken false things against us which thou canst not prove as that in page 18. A man improving 〈◊〉 naturall conscience is his growing up into perfection Now when thou art found false in that and that we never said so then thou
the Fruits by which they were manifest to be reprobates Let all people of understanding judge whether we or thy Generation of Priests be more guilty and then they will know the Tree by the Fruit as ver. 29. And as for thy charging of us as not being able to distinguish this is but thy false accusation for the Lord hath given us of his spirit whereby we are able to distinguish and discerne of things that differ And that righteousnesse which is wrought by Jesus Christ in us is to us a seale of that righteousnesse which was wrought in the Person of Christ and of that which in his blood is imputed to us for justification And whereas thou saith That we confound inherent and imputed Righteousnesse that is but thy reproaching of us And here thou art erred from the forme of sound words for the Scriptures doth not use these words to distinguish of Christs righteousnesse as inherent and imputed though by thy meaning that which is wrought in us by Christ thou wilt call inherent and that which was wrought in his Person without us imputed but this I say unto thee That if thou continue ignorant of Christ and his righteousnesse within thee thy imputing of him and his righteousnesse without will not save thee And while thou keeps people from Christ within them and his righteousnesse within them thou keep● them from that mistery which the Apostle Preached amongst the Gentiles which had been hid from ages and generations but now is made manifest to the Saints which is Christ in them the hope of glory Col. 1. 26. 27 and this is your work by your Preaching and Printing all of you in that Ministery who are erred from the form of sound words into your own imaginations in this age to hide the riches of the glory of this mystery from the people which is Christ in them the hope of glory and you would keep people in the sound of a report of Christ in words and from his life by which the saints was saved and the life of Christ was made manifest in their mortall bodies 2. Cor. 4. 11. But Samuel Hammond affirmes as his Principle or Doctrine in pag. 10. of his Book That the Scripture sends us to the right hand of God to Christ not to Christ in us Neither doe I know saith he any word of Scripture that bids us goe to the light in us though it should mean Christ in us that is the work of grace in us And to prove it he brings Col. 3. 1. Heb. 12. 2. Ans. As I said before it is my work and calling to instruct the ignorant and him that is out of the way Seeing that he saith that he knows not any word of Scripture that bids us goe to the light in us though it should meane Christ in us that is the worke of grace in us If he stand upon these very words Goe to the light in us neither doth the Scripture say Goe to the right hand of God to Christ but as it saith that Christ is at the right hand of God and sitteth at the right hand of God and that they must seek those things which are above where Christ sitteth Col. 3. 1. so the Scripture saith likewise that Christ is within Col. 1. 27. And this was the Mystery the Apostle Preached and the Apostle saith Know you not that Christ is in you except ye be reprobates 2 Cor 13. 5. and likewise he declares of the light in them 2 Cor. 4. 6. For God who commanded the light to shine out of darknesse hath shined in our hearts to give the light of the Knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ so the light which shined in their hearts did give them the light of the Knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ And David said that he had hid the Word in his heart And that the Word was a lampe to his feet and a light unto his paths Psal 119. 11. and ver. 105. so here was light within and by this light within he was guided and by this light within they did not confound inherent and imputed righteousnesse as he calls it as he falsly accuseth us to doe And the Apostle Peter directs them to the light within and saith We have a more sure word of Prophesie unto which ye doe well to take heed as unto a light that shines in a darke place untill the day dawne and the day starre arise in your hearts 2 Pet. 1. 19 so the day was to dawne and the day-starre to arise in their hearts Obj. But saith the Priests that sure Word of Prophesie was the Scriptures of the Prophets and not a light within because ver. 20. 21. it saith Knowing this first that no Prophesie of the Scriptures is of any private interpretation For the Prophesie came not in old time by the will of man but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the holy Ghost c. Ans. The Scriptures of the Prophets is not more sure nor more true then the Scriptures of the Apostles neither is the Visions of the Prophets more sure that the Visions of the Apostles Now that which the Apostle aludes to Was the voyce which came from the excellent glory which Voyce they heard when they were with him in the holy Mount so to them to whom he Wrote the light which shined in their hearts which brought them to waite for the day-daw●ing and the day fear a●ssing was more neer and more sure to them though not to the Apostle then the declaration in words or writing of that which others have seen or heard though that which they have seen and heard be true as any thing that is Written as thus For me to be obedient to the measure of light and life that appears and is manifest to me is to me more a seale or a more sure word to take heed unto then the words or writings that proceed from a greater manifestation in another though by this the truth of the greater or surenesse of it is not denyed by the lesser light but wayted for that the greatest manifestation or discovery of the Father may be as sure and as true to me as to those that have declared it He that hath an eare to heare the truth let him heare and he that can receive it let him Now because Priest Hammond saith that he knows not any word of Scripture that bids us goe to the light in us though it should mean Christ in us that is the worke of grace in us Now whereas he falsly accuseth George Whithead that he is not well read in the literall Knowledge of the Scriptures he justly condemns himselfe For if he were well read in the literall Knowledge of the Scriptures he would know that the Scripture speaks of the light within of Christ within and of the worke of gracs within which he hath declared his ignorance of but his end of so speaking is to