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other_o age_n or_o that_o i_o have_v since_o say_v that_o any_o continue_v the_o same_o practice_n he_o will_v but_o deceive_v man_n for_o it_o be_v nothing_o so_o and_o p._n 74_o of_o postscript_n my_o book_n be_v write_v 1649._o a_o little_a before_o common_a uncontrolled_a same_o be_v that_o not_o far_o from_o we_o in_o one_o place_n many_o of_o they_o be_v baptise_a naked_a etc._n etc._n so_o that_o all_o this_o be_v lay_v together_o he_o will_v have_v we_o think_v that_o this_o respect_v only_o some_o in_o the_o first_o rise_v of_o the_o sect_n as_o common_a fame_n give_v it_o a_o little_a before_o he_o write_v his_o book_n in_o 49_o but_o in_o no_o age_n or_o time_n ever_o since_o but_o how_o little_a truth_n or_o honesty_n there_o be_v in_o this_o shuffle_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_n for_o one_a it_o be_v manifest_a that_o anabaptism_n have_v not_o its_o rise_n about_o this_o time_n as_o he_o seem_v to_o insinuate_v for_o not_o to_o mention_v the_o anabaptist_n in_o h._n the_o 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at_o that_o time_n of_o the_o write_n of_o his_o book_n by_o such_o naked_a baptise_v or_o next_o to_o naked_a not_o a_o word_n of_o common_a fame_n of_o some_o people_n before_o that_o time_n as_o now_o he_o will_v be_v think_v to_o intend_v but_o their_o know_a practice_n at_o that_o present_a falsehood_n 1_o three_o his_o next_o subterfuge_n to_o which_o he_o fly_v for_o some_o relief_n be_v from_o the_o place_n where_o than_o he_o will_v be_v think_v to_o intend_v it_o be_v so_o practise_v have_v it_o seem_v now_o find_v out_o a_o particular_a place_n near_o they_o wherein_o to_o centre_n it_o and_o by_o which_o he_o will_v be_v understand_v not_o to_o mean_v it_o to_o be_v universal_a his_o word_n be_v these_o p._n 74._o postscript_n common_a uncontrolled_a fame_n be_v that_o not_o far_o from_o we_o in_o one_o place_n many_o of_o they_o be_v baptise_a naked_a reproprove_v the_o clothing_n way_n as_o antiscriptural_a and_o therefore_o tell_v we_o he_o apply_v to_o mr._n tomb_n himself_o and_o to_o divers_a of_o his_o church_n who_o deny_v it_o not_o and_o p._n 75_o give_v one_o reason_n why_o mr._n haggar_n and_o fisher_n be_v not_o competent_a judge_n of_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n far_o from_o they_o viz._n mr._n fisher_n in_o kent_n and_o haggar_n in_o staffordshire_n and_o mr._n baxter_n and_o mr._n tomb_n in_o worcestershire_n and_o the_o place_n intend_v â—ear_v or_o not_o far_o from_o kedderminster_n but_o whether_o this_o fig-leaf_n will_v afford_v he_o any_o more_o cover_n than_o the_o former_a will_v easy_o appear_v for_o first_o it_o be_v clear_a the_o book_n itself_o report_v it_o do_v not_o confine_v it_o to_o any_o such_o place_n in_o their_o neighbourhood_n but_o detect_v it_o to_o be_v the_o ordinary_a practice_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n to_o baptise_v naked_a or_o next_o to_o naked_a and_o second_o his_o more_a proof_n tell_v we_o the_o fame_n hereof_o be_v so_o universal_a that_o it_o be_v the_o common_a consent_n of_o that_o present_a time_n and_o that_o to_o deny_v it_o will_v be_v to_o take_v all_o sort_n then_o live_v for_o liar_n but_o three_o it_o appear_v he_o have_v very_o much_o miss_v his_o mark_n and_o ill_o lay_v his_o matter_n together_o to_o make_v the_o anabaptist_n in_o his_o neighbourhood_n who_o own_a mr._n tomb_n to_o be_v their_o pastor_n and_o administrator_n as_o now_o he_o affirm_v to_o have_v be_v the_o most_o interest_v person_n p._n 75._o and_o most_o principal_o concern_v in_o this_o matter_n of_o fact_n since_o at_o another_o time_n he_o confess_v mr._n t._n be_v of_o another_o judgement_n so_o that_o if_o very_a many_o of_o they_o do_v so_o usual_o practise_v the_o naked_a dip_v it_o must_v be_v without_o their_o admiministrator_n but_o four_o to_o put_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o doubt_n his_o own_o word_n in_o his_o more_a proof_n will_v rectify_v he_o and_o at_o least_o discover_v to_o he_o that_o he_o have_v a_o ill_a memory_n vix_fw-la p._n 282_o where_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o 47_o 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make_v it_o good_a viz_o one_a the_o positive_a testimony_n viz_o common_a fame_n two_o the_o negative_a or_o circumstantial_a testimony_n viz._n the_o non-denial_n of_o any_o no_o not_o the_o most_o interest_v person_n themselves_o to_o the_o one_a he_o more_o proof_n p._n 282._o assirm_v it_o to_o be_v common_a fame_n and_o common_a consent_n and_o his_o postscript_n common_a uncontrolled_a fame_n and_o again_o in_o these_o word_n viz._n and_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n if_o that_o fame_n be_v not_o credible_a which_o be_v of_o thing_n late_a and_o near_o and_o not_o contradict_v by_o any_o one_o we_o must_v surcease_v humane_a converse_n but_o what_o this_o signify_v let_v all_o man_n judge_v it_o be_v true_a when_o i_o call_v upon_o he_o for_o satisfaction_n for_o this_o groundless_a slander_n he_o tell_v we_o 26_o year_n after_o that_o he_o have_v it_o by_o common_a fame_n of_o minister_n and_o people_n and_o by_o common_a consent_n at_o the_o present_a time_n and_o to_o deny_v 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etc._n etc._n and_o be_v not_o that_o the_o testimony_n which_o make_v the_o waldenses_n such_o villain_n paul_n such_o a_o heretic_n and_o put_v christ_n to_o death_n etc._n etc._n but_o to_o put_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o doubt_n the_o ground_n you_o will_v find_v that_o first_o he_o assign_v for_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n be_v not_o common_a fame_n bear-say_a or_o bare_a word_n which_o as_o he_o heretofore_o own_a be_v so_o uncertain_a a_o thing_n yea_o so_o great_a a_o liar_n but_o know_v experience_n as_o his_o own_o word_n evidence_n viz._n p._n 138._o plain_a scrip._n but_o in_o both_o these_o case_n viz._n that_o of_o murder_n and_o adultery_n by_o dip_v naked_a in_o cold_a water_n we_o dispute_v not_o against_o bare_a