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A rejoynder to Mr. Wills, his Vindiciæ wherein the antiquity for believers and novelty of infant baptism is further confirmed : as also his groundless appeal distinctly answer'd, and the forgeries and mistakes boasted of, still found to be his own : with an appeal to his conscience about the same / by H. Danvers.
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Danvers, Henry, d. 1687.
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he makes it may be truly saiâ— oâ— him that if he cannot find a hole he 'll make one 8. No visible Church-member before Conversion 8. About Church-Membership I say none ought to be so and so saith Dr Owen 9. That I make a Believer and Dipping to be the right matter and form of Baptism 9. About the matter and form of Faptism which I have proved against Mr Blinman and neither by Mr Wills nor him yet answered 10 That nothing now but Fruits meet for Repentance 10. About receiving to Baptism can give right to the baptism of Repentance and nothing short of the Spirits birth can orderly admit to Water-baptism and Spiritual Ordinances a Doct ine apparently false instancing in John baptizing the Jews upon confession of sin and repentance which was not Fruits and the 3000 Baptized Acts 2. And were they not prick'd at heart and received the word gladly and confest Christ to be the Messiah whom they and were not those Fruits meet for Repentance and amen ment of life c. THE CONCLUSION THus I have given a Candid return to each Particular charged in this Appeal publickly acknowledging what of Error or Mistake I am convinced of and justifying my Innocency and Integrity in the rest for as yet I see cause to own no more not accounting a few immaterial over sights which Ingenious men would scorn to dwell upon than the mis-naming two or three viz. Aquinas for Albertus Sericius for Hincmarus not hitting the Pope Deus dedit's name and not taking a Quotation out of Walden to so good advantage as I ought that of Austin 3 and 4 Book being left out Lanfrank being before owned to Mr. Baxter Concluding that as none of which can be supposed to be wilful so neither can there be any obstinacy in the Case having never heard of them before Therefore upon the whole I joyn issue with Mr. Wills freely submitting it to the Bar he has brought it not doubting upon the due examination of his Complaint and my defence that if they find me guilty of the Crimes he lays to my Charge but they will as he desires discharge duty to me as becomes them to bring me to the acknowledgment of my evil or to disown me if obstinate as a person unworthy to be countenanced amongst them But if on the contrary Mr Wills his Appeal appears to be faulty and the Particulars thereof not true then that his said Appeal shall as he desires as unjust reflect the blame of the charge upon himself according to the righteous Law of the Lord. Deut 19.16 17 18 19. If a false Witness rise up against any man and testifie against him that which is wrong then both the men before whom the Controversie is shall stand before the Lord and the Judges which shall be in those dayes And the Judges shall make diligent inquisition and behold if the witness be a false witness and hath testified falsely against his Brother then shall ye do unto him as he had thought to have done unto his Brother So shalt thou put the evil away from amongst you And those that remain shall hear and fear and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you CHAP. IV. An Appeal to Mr Will 's Conscience Sir I Having at your Groundless and injurious summons given this full Account of my self in my just vindication And so far as I am convinced made as you charitably suggest I would Pref. App. a Candid and publick acknowledgment of what of error or mistake is made out against me by your self or others may therefore with more freedom apply to your Conscience herein especially since I offer you nothing but what I conceive carries demonstration with it and back'd with Scripture evidence for your better consideration and conviction Therefore in the first place I desire you to consider whether you are not notoriously guilty of Back-biting 1. Reproachfull Back-biting by taking up reproaches from others and Tale-bearer like spreading and publishing the same to the defaming your Neighbour without enquiring into the Truth thereof from himself nay refusing all due information and satisfaction when friendly tendred to you For have you not taken up these following things upon report and Hear-say from others against one that is a meer stranger to you published the same to my disgrace to promote thereby your Cause viz. First That as you have heard I own not so much Scholarship to compose such a Book though my solitary life has given me opportunity enough to study Pref. Inf. Bapt. Secondly That I have only fixed my Name to the Book that another chiefly has most Reason to own himlself to be the Author of Pref. Ibid. Thirdly That as you have heard I have Ixion like faln in love with my own shaddow puft up with the Excellency of my own performance Ibid. Fourthly That I am a very tenacious Person as you have heard Vind. P. Fifthly That I am fain to call in the Wits of our Party to help me to deal with you Pref. Vind. Sixtly That I am of a Self-conceited scornful Genius unbecoming a Christian Infants Bapt. a g. 86. Seventhly Insinuating that I am of such a pugnatious or fighting temper that though my hands are tied behind me yet will do it with Tongue and Pen Pref. Inf. Bapt. But how agreeable such actings are with the following Scriptures I leave you to judge Exod. 23.1 Thou shalt not receive a false Report Put not thy hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous Witness Levit. 19.16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a Tale-bearer among thy people Psal 15.3 He that back-biteth not with his tongue nor doth evil to his Neighbour nor taketh up a reproach against his Neighbour Prov. 18.8 The words of a Tale-bearer are as wounds c. 20.10 Where no Tale-bearer is the strife ceaseth Jer. 20.10 I have heard the defamation of many Report say they and we will report c. And to these add the Golden Rule so highly infringed thereby Math. 7.12 Therefore all things whatsoever you would that Men should do unto you do even so unto them for this is the Law and the Prophets And would you be so dealt with by me and others ask your own heart Pray read Mr. B. Rules to this Point in his Christian Directory some of which are given you in p. 158. 2. Reply And amongst the rest this is one If you know it not to be true or there be no sufficient evidence to prove it you are guilty of lying and slaundering interpretatively though it should prove true because it might have been a lye for ought you know Secondly are you not evidently guilty of Bitter Scoffing and Reviling both Person and Book and notoriously guilty of Railing 1. As to Scoffing and jeering at my Person 2. Scoffing and Railing Have you not deridingly called me the Antisignanus the Goliah one that is Philantia nimis inflatus viz. a proud conceited fellow
one guilty of notorious Plagiarism or Thievery and shameful Oscitancy or heedlesness all in the Preface of Inf. Bapt. And scoffingly to tell me Bernardus non vidit omnia That I am not such a seer as taken to be Inf. Bapt. p. 89. A Hagio-Mastix a sever Lasher Ibid. That I am a Zantippe and a Momus a meer Carper Vind. Scoffingly reflecting upon the Exploits or Feats done in the daies of my Colonelship Ibid. p. 93. That you have discovered my Mummery and pluckt off the mask of my Vizard Pref. Vind. and much more of this kind 2. As to my Book That it is a pompous Piece very fallacious and contradictious heapt up with forgeries and prevarications swelled with Sesquipedalia verba viz. Words of a foot and half long or ridiculous stuff p. 35. Inf. Bapt. The non-such the Arguments therein consisting only of Trite out-worn things that have been trampled upon and confuted again and again Pref. Inf. Bapt. And thirdly Whether in a Railing reviling manner you have not called me One possest with a maleveleant Spirit and filled with envy p. 11. Inf. Bapt. An unworthy Caviler p. 13. Ibid. Of so much disingenuity as to traduce the sayings of worthy Men p. Ibid. Impudent silly ridiculous p. 16. 2. part Ibid. One that will not refuse the most sordid and shameful waies to promote my opinion p. 57. Ibid. A daring Champion and again A daring Person indeed p. 72. Ibid. That I discover the ebulition of a malicious Spirit p. 106. Ibid. Reflect the Munster Venarian Spirit upon me as one that is under Satanical delusion p. 99. Ibid. One that prevaricates to free my self from prevarication p. 2. Vind. That I have added contumacy to my mistakes Pref. Vind. And that never Writer did more prevaricate and shewed more falshood then I have done p. 34. Inf. Bapt. But how such language can stand before the following Scriptures is submitted to your Conscience viz. Eph. 4.31 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamour and evill speaking be put away from you with all malice and be kind one to another tender hearted Prov. 15.1 A soft answer turneth away wrath but grevious words stir up anger Tit. 3.2 Speak evil of no Man Tim. 33. not a brawler 1. Cor. 5 10. If any that is called a Brother be a railer with such a one do not eat Matth. 3.22 Whosoever is angry with his Brother without a cause shall be in danger of the Judgment and whosoever shall say unto his brother Racha shall be in danger of the Council but whosoever shall say Thou fool shall be in danger of Hell fire Thirdly I desire you to consider whether you are not evidently guilty of False accusation and notorious false speaking 3. False accusation and speaking First in that general charge That never Writer did more prevaricate or was guilty of more falshood then my self what none of the Popish Legendaries whereas in both your Books you have not been able to make out any one that is significant for after you have done your utmost to make good such a thing what doth it amount more then to discover the mistaking of 2 or 3 Names and not rendring that passage in Walden so much to my advantage as it was none of which can possibly be judged willful mistakes nor be truly charged with forgery or prevarication which must needs therefore return upon you according to the Rule Deut. 19.16 c. Secondly in those many particular falshoods you have so positively charged upon me viz. 1. That I misrepresented Dr. Taylor and dealt deceitfully in those Quotations out of his liberty of Prophecy as p. 35. Inf. Bapt. whereas the quite contrary is manifest as p. 51 c. of my Reply Secondly That I produced Durandus a persecutor of Anabaptists as a Witness for them p. 143. Inf. Bapt. when it is most manifest I do the quite contrary p. 242 Treaty Thirdly that I do bring Jerom to say such words upon the 28. Matth. whereas you say they are words of my own adding and none of Jeroms and yet I tell you he saith it p. 166. Vind. whereas I have made good to you they are verbatim Jeroms own words upon that place Fourthly That I produce Gulielmus from the Magdeburgs for saying the Virgin Mary should be added to the words of Baptism which you say is a notorious untruth and that the Magdeburgs say nothing of the Virgin Mary p. 185 Vind. And which I have expresly proved and made good to a tittle as before Fifthly you accuse me for abusing Dr. Hamond in that Quotation on the 13. of John 10 making him speak quite otherwise then he doth Satyricaliy deriding me for the same p. 171. of your Vind. whereas I have made good to you that I did the Doctor no injury but quoted his words truly and faithfully Sixthly You accuse me for saying that the Magdeburgs say that the Apostles only Baptized the adult or aged Ch. 7. p. 2. Inf. Bapt. which you say is false whereas I said no such thing as p. 31. of Reply is demonstrated and though I called for satisfaction again and again yet you in your Preface to your Appeal justified your self and severly reprove me for a tenacious and unreasonable Person for not falling under your charge what an evidence it is of my obstinacy whereas my words were only these That the Magdeburgs tell us that they find the adult or aged were only Baptized viz. in the Scripture Instances and Examples that they produce And yet there you have the confidence to tell me it is alone nay makes more against me To which I say let it make for or against me that is nothing to the falshood you fathred upon me I say none of these words neither doth it make at all against me for they may find Scripture Instances only for the adult and yet believe as you grant they did Baptize others then the adult being two different things but you tell me the word they find only such implyed their certainty of the assertion which they were so far from believing that they tell us it appeared from the Apostles Writings that they did not exclude Infants from Baptism and at another time p. 53. Vind. you tell me they say that Origen and Cyprian tell us that Infants were Baptized in the Apostles daies but what then do either of those Instances produce any Scripture Example for the Baptizing of an Infant or any other but the adult which serves only to evince that had I said what you would have me say I had not so fairly represented them viz. that they did only Baptize the adult they believing with you though upon as little ground that Baptized the Infants also But in as much as I said they said they found viz. in those Scripture Instances Examples only for the one and not for the other I faithfully and truly represented them and you did injuriously and untruly represent me and for which instead of giving me