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if_o the_o affirmative_a than_o the_o heathen_n who_o live_v and_o die_v in_o paganism_n have_v sufficient_a mean_n and_o help_v to_o conversion_n and_o faith_n in_o christ_n for_o those_o pagan_n have_v the_o book_n of_o the_o creature_n to_o instruct_v they_o as_o be_v express_v in_o some_o scripture_n cite_v by_o himself_o and_o so_o there_o may_v be_v salvation_n and_o the_o mean_n thereof_o without_o the_o church_n if_o this_o be_v not_o his_o meaning_n but_o that_o the_o book_n of_o nature_n instruct_v we_o concern_v many_o thing_n of_o god_n yet_o do_v not_o teach_v we_o to_o know_v christ_n and_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n far_o less_o do_v effectual_o and_o save_o convert_v then_o he_o have_v say_v nothing_o to_o that_o point_n which_o he_o have_v to_o prove_v 2._o he_o say_v that_o all_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o old_a law_n and_o circumcision_n and_o the_o passeover_n do_v teach_v god_n people_n who_o participate_v of_o they_o or_o be_v present_a at_o 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for_o sin_n as_o papist_n do_v but_o neither_o do_v he_o offer_v the_o least_o colour_n of_o reason_n to_o prove_v that_o all_o the_o external_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o old_a law_n be_v convert_v ordinance_n which_o here_o he_o affirm_v the_o apostle_n speak_v otherwise_o of_o the_o legal_a sacrifice_n which_o he_o say_v can_v not_o make_v he_o that_o do_v the_o service_n perfect_a as_o pertain_v to_o the_o conscience_n heb._n 99_o and_o therefore_o call_v all_o those_o rite_n carnal_a ordinance_n vers_fw-la 10._o for_o though_o they_o be_v spiritual_a in_o respect_n of_o their_o signification_n and_o typify_a of_o christ_n and_o seal_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n to_o the_o faithful_a in_o the_o old_a testament_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o spiritual_a in_o regard_n of_o their_o give_v of_o grace_n or_o work_a conversion_n or_o purge_v the_o conscience_n for_o they_o have_v no_o such_o operation_n nor_o effect_n four_o mr._n prynn_n confirm_v his_o present_a argument_n by_o the_o miracle_n of_o the_o prophet_n christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n which_o say_v he_o convert_v thousand_o without_o preach_v do_v convert_v and_o regenerate_a man_n by_o the_o eye_n without_o the_o ear_n for_o proof_n whereof_o he_o cite_v abundance_n of_o text_n of_o scripture_n which_o do_v not_o prove_v what_o he_o say_v nay_o some_o of_o they_o prove_v the_o contrary_n some_o of_o the_o scripture_n cite_v do_v not_o prove_v conversion_n and_o regeneration_n by_o miracle_n but_o either_o confirmation_n as_o john_n 2._o 11._o after_o the_o miracle_n it_o be_v add_v and_o his_o disciple_n believe_v on_o he_o or_o some_o preparatory_a initial_a work_n before_o regeneration_n as_o that_o john_n 3._o 2._o mr._n prynn_n will_v hardly_o prove_v that_o nicodemus_n be_v already_o regenerate_v at_o that_o instant_n when_o he_o know_v not_o what_o regeneration_n be_v or_o that_o those_o john_n 2._o 23._o who_o believe_v on_o christ_n when_o they_o see_v his_o miracle_n at_o the_o feast_n have_v any_o more_o than_o a_o temporary_a faith_n it_o be_v say_v of_o they_o that_o jesus_n do_v not_o commit_v himself_o unto_o they_o because_o he_o know_v all_o man_n act._n 2._o 12._o luke_n 5._o 25._o 26._o tell_v we_o of_o some_o who_o at_o the_o sight_n of_o miracle_n be_v strike_v with_o fear_n and_o amazement_n and_o give_v glory_n to_o god_n which_o prove_v not_o that_o miracle_n do_v convert_v but_o convince_v the_o like_a i_o say_v of_o 1_o king_n 18._o 38._o 39_o other_o text_n cite_v by_o he_o make_v express_a mention_n of_o the_o word_n as_o a_o mean_a of_o the_o conversion_n which_o be_v wrought_v as_o john_n 4._o 50._o the_o man_n believe_v the_o word_n that_o jesus_n have_v speak_v and_o this_o be_v before_o the_o miracle_n john_n 7._o 31._o many_o believe_v but_o they_o hear_v christ_n preach_v vers_n 14._o so_o john_n 11._o 45._o those_o jew_n who_o believe_v on_o christ_n after_o they_o have_v see_v the_o miracle_n do_v also_o hear_v that_o which_o christ_n say_v yea_o their_o believe_a be_v mention_v as_o a_o effect_n of_o their_o hear_n vers_fw-la 41._o 42._o so_o act._n 6._o 8._o stephen_n do_v indeed_o great_a miracle_n but_o the_o multiply_a of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o disciple_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o word_n vers_fw-la 7._o act._n 8._o 6._o it_o be_v express_o say_v and_o the_o people_n with_o one_o accord_n give_v heed_n unto_o those_o thing_n which_o philip_n speak_v hear_v and_o see_v the_o miracle_n which_o he_o do_v quâ_fw-la fide_fw-la have_v mr._n prynn_n cite_v this_o very_a text_n to_o prove_v that_o man_n be_v convert_v by_o miracle_n without_o the_o word_n by_o the_o eye_n without_o the_o ear_n some_o other_o scripture_n by_o he_o quote_v prove_v only_o a_o popular_a confluence_n and_o the_o multitude_n follow_v of_o christ._n have_v see_v his_o miracle_n as_o john_n 6._o 2._o and_o 11._o 47._o 48._o matth._n 15._o 30._o 31._o for_o
the_o very_a same_o he_o make_v to_o have_v be_v before_o the_o sacrament_n to_o prove_v that_o judas_n be_v a_o scandalous_a sinner_n when_o he_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n he_o yield_v upon_o the_o matter_n that_o judas_n receive_v not_o the_o sacrament_n that_o before_o judas_n go_v forth_o none_o of_o the_o apostle_n know_v he_o to_o be_v the_o traitor_n except_o john_n yea_o some_o hold_n that_o john_n know_v it_o not_o that_o christ_n word_n to_o judas_n thou_o have_v say_v do_v not_o make_v know_v to_o the_o apostle_n that_o he_o be_v the_o traitor_n and_o if_o they_o have_v yet_o by_o their_o principle_n who_o hold_v that_o judas_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n these_o word_n be_v not_o speak_v before_o the_o sacrament_n divers_a author_n hold_v that_o judas_n be_v a_o secret_a not_o asleep_o scandalous_a sinner_n at_o that_o time_n when_o it_o be_v suppose_v he_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n yea_o m._n prynne_n himself_o hold_v so_o in_o another_o place_n he_o lose_v much_o by_o propose_v as_o a_o precedent_n to_o minister_n what_o christ_n do_v to_o judas_n in_o the_o last_o supper_n christ_n do_v upon_o the_o matter_n excommunicate_a judas_n which_o many_o gather_v from_o these_o word_n that_o thou_o do_v do_v quick_o and_o if_o christ_n have_v admit_v he_o to_o the_o sacrament_n it_o can_v be_v no_o precedent_n to_o we_o chap._n xi_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o full_a discharge_n of_o duty_n to_o admonish_v a_o scandalous_a person_n of_o the_o danger_n of_o unworthy_a communicate_v and_o whether_o a_o minister_n in_o give_v he_o the_o sacrament_n after_o such_o admonition_n be_v no_o way_n guilty_a mr_n prynne_n do_v here_o mistake_v his_o mark_n or_o not_o hit_v it_o whether_o the_o question_n be_v state_v in_o reference_n to_o the_o censure_n of_o suspension_n or_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o personal_a duty_n of_o the_o minister_n five_o duty_n of_o the_o minister_n in_o this_o business_n beside_o admonition_n admonition_n no_o church_n censure_v proper_o six_o conclusion_n promise_v by_o m_n prynne_n examine_v his_o syllogism_n concern_v the_o true_a right_n of_o all_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n to_o the_o sacrament_n discuss_v four_o sort_n of_o person_n beside_o child_n and_o fool_n not_o able_a to_o examine_v themselves_o and_o so_o not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n by_o that_o limitation_n which_o m._n prynne_n yee_v his_o argument_n from_o the_o admission_n of_o carnal_a person_n to_o baptism_n upon_o a_o mere_a external_a sleight_n profession_n answer_v his_o eleven_o reason_n for_o the_o affirmative_a of_o this_o present_a question_n answer_v the_o erastian_n argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 28._o let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o not_o other_o nor_o other_o he_o fail_v many_o way_n m._n prynne_n endeavour_v to_o pacify_v the_o conscience_n of_o minister_n by_o persuade_v they_o to_o believe_v that_o a_o scandalous_a person_n be_v outward_o fit_v and_o prepare_v for_o the_o sacrament_n how_o dangerous_a a_o way_n it_o be_v to_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o a_o scandalous_a person_n upon_o hope_n that_o omnipotency_n can_v at_o that_o instant_n change_v his_o heart_n and_o his_o life_n of_o a_o man_n eat_v and_o drink_v judgement_n to_o himself_o chap._n xii_o whether_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v a_o convert_n or_o regenerate_v ordinance_n mr_n prynne_n in_o this_o controversy_n join_v not_o only_o with_o the_o more_o rigid_a lutheran_n but_o with_o the_o papist_n the_o testimony_n of_o calvin_n bullinger_n ursinus_n musculus_fw-la bucerus_n festus_n honnius_fw-la aretius_n vossius_fw-la pareus_n the_o belgic_a confession_n and_o form_n of_o administration_n the_o synod_n of_o dort_n gerhardus_fw-la walaeus_n chamierus_n polanus_fw-la amesius_n be_v produce_v against_o m._n prynne_n all_o these_o and_o many_o other_o deny_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n how_o both_o lutheran_n and_o papist_n state_n their_o controversy_n with_o calvinist_n as_o they_o call_v they_o concern_v the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o sacrament_n m._n prynne_v distinction_n of_o two_o sort_n of_o conversion_n and_o two_o sort_n of_o seal_v be_v due_o examine_v do_v but_o the_o more_o open_a his_o error_n instead_o of_o cover_v it_o of_o the_o word_n sacrament_n and_o seal_n concern_v which_o m._n prynne_n as_o he_o lean_v towards_o the_o socinian_n opinion_n so_o he_o great_o call_v in_o question_n that_o truth_n without_o the_o knowledge_n whereof_o the_o ordinance_n of_o parliament_n appoint_v man_n to_o be_v keep_v back_o from_o the_o sacrament_n four_o distinction_n of_o my_o own_o premise_a that_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o question_n may_v be_v right_o apprehend_v the_o 1._o distinction_n between_o the_o absolute_a power_n of_o god_n and_o the_o reveal_v will_n of_o god_n 2._o between_o the_o sacrament_n itself_o and_o other_o ordinance_n which_o do_v accompany_v it_o 3._o between_o the_o first_o grace_n and_o the_o follow_a grace_n 4._o between_o visible_a saint_n and_o invisible_a saint_n chap._n xiii_o twenty_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o a_o convert_v ordinance_n 1._o from_o the_o nature_n of_o sign_n institute_v to_o signify_v the_o be_v or_o have_v of_o a_o thing_n the_o significancy_n of_o sacrament_n à _fw-la parte_fw-la ante_fw-la 2._o sacrament_n suppose_v faith_n and_o a_o interest_n have_v in_o christ_n therefore_o do_v not_o give_v it_o 3._o the_o lord_n supper_n give_v the_o new_a food_n therefore_o it_o suppose_v the_o new_a life_n 4._o it_o be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n therefore_o institute_v for_o justify_v person_n only_o 5._o from_o the_o example_n of_o abraham_n justification_n before_o circumcision_n 6._o from_o the_o duty_n of_o self-examination_n which_o a_o unregenerate_a person_n can_v perform_v 7._o from_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o wedding_n garment_n 8._o faith_n come_v by_o hear_v not_o by_o see_v or_o receive_v 9_o neither_o promise_n nor_o example_n in_o scripture_n of_o conversion_n by_o the_o lord_n supper_n 10._o every_o unconvert_v and_o unworthy_a person_n if_o he_o come_v while_o such_o to_o the_o lord_n table_n can_v but_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o therefore_o ought_v not_o to_o come_v 11._o the_o wicked_a have_v no_o part_n in_o a_o eucharistical_a consolatory_a ordinance_n 12._o christ_n call_v none_o to_o this_o feast_n but_o such_o as_o have_v spiritual_a gracious_a qualification_n 13._o they_o that_o be_v visible_o no_o saint_n ought_v not_o to_o partake_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n 14._o baptism_n itself_o at_o least_o when_o administer_v to_o person_n of_o age_n be_v not_o a_o regenerate_a but_o a_o seal_a ordinance_n 15._o from_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o precedency_n of_o baptism_n before_o the_o lord_n supper_n 16._o from_o the_o method_n of_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o lose_a son_n 17._o from_o the_o doctrinal_a dehort_v of_o all_o impenitent_a unworthy_a person_n from_o come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n unless_o they_o repent_v reform_v etc._n etc._n allow_v by_o m._n prynne_n himself_o which_o a_o minister_n may_v not_o do_v if_o it_o be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n 18._o from_o the_o incommunicablenesse_n of_o this_o ordinance_n to_o pagan_n or_o to_o excommunicate_v christian_n for_o their_o conversion_n 19_o from_o the_o instrumental_a causality_n of_o a_o convert_v ordinance_n which_o in_o order_n do_v not_o follow_v but_o precede_v conversion_n and_o therefore_o be_v administer_v to_o man_n not_o qua_fw-la penitent_a but_o qua_fw-la impenitent_a which_o can_v not_o be_v say_v of_o the_o sacrament_n 20._o antiquity_n against_o m._n prynne_n in_o this_o point_n witness_v the_o sancta_fw-la sanctis_fw-la witness_v also_o dionysius_n areopagita_n justin_n martyr_n chrysostome_n augustine_n isidorus_n pelusiotâ—…_n prosper_n beda_n isidorus_n hispalensis_n rabanus_n maurus_n beside_o scotus_n alensis_n and_o other_o schoolman_n chap._n fourteen_o master_n prynne_n his_o twelve_o argument_n bring_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n discuss_v and_o answer_v his_o first_o argument_n answer_v by_o three_o distinction_n his_o second_o prove_v nothing_o against_o we_o but_o yield_v somewhat_o which_o be_v for_o we_o his_o three_o charge_v with_o divers_a absurdity_n his_o four_o concern_v the_o great_a proximity_n and_o most_o immediate_a presence_n of_o god_n and_o of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n retort_v against_o himself_o and_o moreover_o not_o prove_v nor_o make_v good_a by_o he_o his_o five_o argument_n have_v both_o universal_a grace_n and_o other_o absurdity_n in_o it_o his_o six_o concern_v conversion_n by_o the_o eye_n by_o the_o book_n of_o nature_n by_o sacrifice_n by_o miracle_n as_o well_o as_o by_o the_o ear_n examine_v and_o confute_v in_o the_o particular_n his_o seven_o not_o prove_v nor_o yet_o his_o eight_o concern_v conversion_n by_o affliction_n without_o the_o word_n his_o nine_o concern_v the_o rule_n of_o contrary_n
signification_n and_o be_v a_o type_n of_o christ_n and_o communion_n with_o he_o it_o be_v worthy_a of_o observation_n that_o by_o the_o chaldee_n paraphrase_n exod._n 12._o 43._o any_o israelite_n who_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o apostate_n may_v not_o eat_v of_o the_o passeover_n again_o verse_n 48._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o omnis_fw-la prophanus_fw-la so_o the_o latin_a interpreter_n of_o onkelos_n and_o no_o profane_a person_n shall_v eat_v of_o it_o the_o word_n be_v use_v not_o only_o of_o a_o heathen_a but_o of_o any_o profane_a person_n as_o prov._n 2._o 16._o where_o the_o chaldee_n express_v the_o whorish_a woman_n though_o a_o jewesse_n by_o the_o name_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o come_v from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v profane_v è_fw-la sancto_fw-la prophanum_fw-la fieri_fw-la sure_o onkelos_n have_v not_o thus_o paraphrase_a upon_o exod._n 12._o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n that_o notorious_a profane_a person_n shall_v be_v keep_v back_o from_o the_o passeover_n the_o second_o book_n of_o the_o christian_a church-goverment_n chap._n i._o of_o the_o rise_n growth_n decay_n and_o revive_v of_o erastianisme_n diverse_a learned_a man_n have_v to_o very_o good_a purpose_n discover_v the_o origination_n occasion_n first_o author_n fomenter_n rise_v and_o growth_n of_o error_n both_o popish_a and_o other_o i_o shall_v after_o their_o example_n make_v know_v brief_o what_o i_o find_v concern_v the_o rise_n and_o growth_n the_o plant_n and_o water_v of_o the_o erastian_n error_n i_o can_v say_v of_o it_o that_o it_o be_v honest_a be_v parentibus_fw-la natus_fw-la it_o be_v not_o bear_v and_o descend_v of_o honest_a parent_n the_o father_n of_o it_o be_v the_o old_a serpent_n who_o find_v his_o kingdom_n very_o much_o impair_v weaken_a and_o resist_v by_o the_o vigour_n of_o the_o true_a ecclesiastical_a discipline_n which_o separate_v between_o the_o precious_a and_o the_o vile_a the_o holy_a &_o profane_a and_o so_o contribute_v much_o to_o the_o shame_n away_o of_o the_o unfruitful_a work_n of_o darkness_n thereupon_o he_o have_v cunning_o go_v about_o to_o draw_v man_n first_o into_o a_o jealousy_n and_o then_o into_o a_o dislike_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n by_o god_n mercy_n restore_v in_o the_o reform_a church_n the_o mother_n of_o it_o be_v the_o enmity_n of_o nature_n against_o the_o kingdom_n of_o jesus_n christ_n which_o he_o as_o mediator_n do_v exercise_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n which_o enmity_n be_v natural_o in_o all_o man_n heart_n but_o be_v unmortified_a and_o strong_o prevalent_a in_o some_o who_o have_v say_v in_o their_o heart_n we_o will_v not_o have_v this_o man_n to_o reign_v over_o we_o luke_n 19_o let_v we_o break_v their_o bond_n asunder_o and_o cast_v away_o their_o cord_n from_o we_o psal._n 2._o 3._o the_o midwife_n which_o bring_v this_o unhappy_a brood_n into_o the_o light_n of_o the_o world_n be_v thomas_n erastus_n doctor_n of_o medicine_n at_o heidelberg_n of_o who_o i_o shall_v say_v no_o more_o than_o what_o be_v apparent_a by_o his_o own_o preface_n to_o the_o reader_n namely_o that_o as_o he_o be_v once_o of_o opinion_n that_o excommunication_n be_v command_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n so_o he_o come_v off_o to_o the_o contrary_a opinion_n not_o without_o a_o malcontented_n humour_n and_o a_o resentment_n of_o some_o thing_n which_o he_o look_v upon_o as_o provocation_n and_o personal_a reflection_n though_o its_o like_a enough_o they_o be_v not_o real_o such_o but_o in_o his_o apprehension_n they_o be_v one_o of_o these_o be_v a_o public_a dispute_n at_o heydelberg_n in_o the_o year_n 1568._o upon_o certain_a thesis_n concern_v the_o necessity_n of_o church_n government_n and_o the_o power_n of_o presbytery_n to_o excommunicate_v which_o thesis_n be_v exhibit_v by_o m._n george_n wither_v a_o englishman_n who_o leave_v england_n because_o of_o the_o ceremony_n and_o be_v at_o that_o time_n make_v doctor_n of_o divinity_n at_o heydelberg_n and_o the_o learned_a dispute_n have_v thereupon_o you_o may_v find_v epitomise_v as_o it_o be_v take_v the_o day_n follow_v from_o the_o mouth_n of_o dr._n vrsinus_n in_o the_o close_a of_o the_o second_o part_n of_o dr._n pareus_n his_o explication_n of_o the_o heidelberg_n catechism_n the_o erastian_n error_n be_v bear_v the_o breast_n which_o give_v it_o suck_v be_v profaneness_n and_o self-interest_n the_o son_n of_o belial_n be_v very_o much_o for_o it_o expect_v that_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n shall_v not_o be_v so_o vigilant_a over_o they_o nor_o his_o hand_n so_o much_o against_o they_o for_o a_o scandalous_a and_o dissolute_a conversation_n as_o church-discipline_n will_v be_v germanorum_n bibere_fw-la est_fw-la vivere_fw-la in_o practice_n as_o well_o as_o in_o pronunciation_n what_o great_a marvel_n if_o many_o among_o they_o for_o i_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o all_o do_v 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the_o communaltic_a also_o and_o people_n be_v more_o dissolute_a the_o great_a part_n be_v most_o vicious_a after_o that_o this_o unlucky_a child_n have_v be_v nurse_v upon_o so_o bad_a milk_n it_o come_v at_o last_o to_o eat_v strong_a food_n and_o that_o be_v arbitrary_a government_n under_o the_o name_n of_o royal_a prerogative_n mr._n john_n wemy_n sometime_o senator_n of_o the_o college_n of_o justice_n in_o scotland_n as_o great_a a_o royalist_n as_o any_o of_o his_o time_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr regis_fw-la primatu_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 7._o do_v utter_o dissent_v from_o and_o argue_v against_o the_o distinction_n of_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a law_n and_o against_o the_o synodical_a power_n of_o censure_n hold_v that_o both_o the_o power_n of_o make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n and_o the_o corrective_a power_n to_o censure_v transgressor_n be_v proper_a to_o the_o magistrate_n the_o tutor_n which_o breed_v up_o the_o erastian_n error_n be_v arminianism_n for_o the_o arminian_n find_v their_o plant_n pluck_v up_o and_o their_o poison_n antidote_v by_o class_n and_o synod_n thereupon_o they_o begin_v to_o cry_v down_o synodical_a authority_n and_o to_o appeal_v to_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o thing_n ecclesiastical_a hope_v for_o more_o favour_n and_o less_o opposition_n that_o way_n they_o will_v have_v synod_n only_o to_o examine_v dispute_n discuss_v to_o impose_v nothing_o under_o pain_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n but_o to_o leave_v all_o man_n free_a to_o do_v as_o they_o list_v see_v their_o exam_n cens_fw-la cap._n 25._o and_o vindic._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 6._o pag._n 131._o 133._o and_o for_o the_o magistrate_n they_o have_v endeavour_v to_o make_v he_o head_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o pope_n be_v yea_o so_o far_o that_o they_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o magistrate_n that_o jurisdiction_n over_o the_o church_n synod_n and_o ecclesiastical_a proceed_n '_o which_o the_o pope_n do_v former_o usurp_v for_o which_o see_v apollonius_n in_o his_o ius_n majâ—…statis_fw-la circa_fw-la sacra_fw-la but_o the_o erastian_n error_n be_v thus_o bear_v nurse_v feed_v and_o educate_v do_v fall_v into_o a_o most_o deadly_a decay_n and_o consumption_n the_o procure_a cause_n whereof_o be_v these_o three_o first_o the_o best_a and_o most_o and_o in_o some_o respect_n all_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n refuse_v to_o receive_v harbour_n or_o entertain_v it_o and_o so_o leave_v it_o expose_v to_o hunger_n and_o cold_a shame_n and_o nakedness_n some_o harbour_n it_o have_v in_o switzerland_n but_o that_o be_v look_v upon_o as_o come_v only_o through_o injury_n of_o time_n which_o can_v not_o be_v help_v the_o theological_a and_o scriptural_a principle_n of_o the_o divine_n of_o those_o church_n be_v anti-erastian_a and_o presbyterial_a as_o i_o have_v 53._o elsewhere_o show_v against_o mr._n coleman_n so_o that_o erastianisme_n can_v not_o get_v warmth_n and_o strength_n enough_o no_o not_o in_o zurick_n itself_o yea_o dr._n ursiâ—…us_n in_o his_o judicium_fw-la de_fw-la
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can_v say_v that_o the_o judge_n obey_v the_o advocate_n i_o answer_v let_v he_o make_v of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o he_o can_v the_o passive_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v frequent_o signisie_n i_o obey_v or_o obtemper_n for_o which_o signification_n h._n stephanus_n in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cit_v out_o of_o xenophon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d out_o of_o plutaroh_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d out_o of_o plato_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o we_o come_v to_o the_o scripture_n phrase_n i_o be_o sure_a in_o some_o place_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v a_o thing_n of_o another_o nature_n then_o to_o be_v persuade_v forensical_o as_o jam._n 3._o 3_o behold_v we_o put_v bit_n in_o the_o horse_n mouth_n that_o they_o may_v obey_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o here_o when_o we_o speak_v of_o the_o obedience_n of_o church-member_n to_o church-officer_n it_o be_v a_o free_a rational_a willing_a christian_a obedience_n yet_o obedience_n it_o be_v which_o we_o owe_v to_o spiritual_a ruler_n as_o well_o as_o that_o which_o we_o owe_v to_o civil_a magistrate_n sure_a gualther_n and_o bullinger_n do_v understand_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d here_o to_o be_v more_o than_o be_v persuade_v for_o they_o apply_v this_o text_n to_o the_o obedience_n due_a to_o magistrate_n and_o m._n hussey_n may_v have_v also_o observe_v that_o pasor_n render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o pareo_fw-la obedio_fw-la for_o which_o he_o cit_v gal._n 3_o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o obey_v the_o truth_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o render_v inobediens_fw-la refractarius_fw-la as_o rom._n 1._o 30._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d disobedient_a to_o parent_n i_o know_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v also_o use_v for_o to_o be_v persuade_v but_o i_o very_o believe_v m._n hussey_n be_v the_o first_o man_n that_o ever_o quarrel_v the_o word_n obey_v in_o this_o text_n and_o turn_v it_o 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take_v notice_n that_o haymo_n will_v have_v no_o notorious_a scandalous_a sinner_n to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n and_o hold_v that_o a_o man_n eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o qui_fw-la gravioribus_fw-la criminibus_fw-la commaculatus_fw-la praesumit_fw-la illud_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la sumere_fw-la that_o be_v who_o be_v defile_v with_o heinous_a crime_n presume_v to_o take_v the_o sacrament_n but_o if_o he_o have_v think_v it_o as_o master_n prynne_n do_v the_o most_o effectual_a ordinance_n and_o ready_a mean_n to_o work_v conversion_n and_o repentance_n he_o can_v not_o have_v say_v so_o that_o which_o m_o r_o prynne_n pag._n 23._o cit_v out_o of_o the_o two_o confession_n of_o bohemia_n and_o belgia_n do_v not_o assert_v that_o for_o which_o he_o cit_v they_o for_o neither_o of_o they_o say_v that_o judas_n do_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n the_o belgik_a confession_n say_v a_o evil_a man_n may_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n unto_o his_o own_o condemnation_n as_o for_o example_n judas_n and_o simon_n magus_n both_o of_o they_o do_v receive_v the_o sacramental_a sign_n i_o can_v subscribe_v to_o all_o this_o for_o it_o be_v true_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o baptism_n both_o of_o judas_n and_o simon_n magus_n but_o i_o must_v here_o put_v m_o r_o prynne_n in_o mind_n that_o the_o thing_n which_o he_o plead_v for_o be_v extreme_o different_a from_o that_o which_o the_o belgic_a church_n hold_v for_o harmonia_n synodorum_n belgicarum_n cap._n 13._o say_v thus_o nemo_fw-la ad_fw-la caenam_fw-la dominicam_fw-la admittatur_fw-la nisi_fw-la qui_fw-la fidei_fw-la confessionem_fw-la ante_fw-la reddiderit_fw-la &_o disciplinae_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la se_fw-la subjecerit_fw-la &_o aquavitae_fw-la inculpatae_fw-la testes_fw-la fideles_fw-la produxerit_fw-la let_v no_o man_n be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n except_o he_o who_o have_v first_o make_v a_o confession_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o have_v subject_v himself_o to_o the_o church_n discipline_n and_o have_v prove_v himself_o by_o faithful_a witness_n to_o be_v of_o a_o unblameable_a life_n the_o other_o confession_n of_o bohemia_n say_v that_o judas_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n christ_n himself_o do_v also_o execute_v the_o function_n of_o a_o preacher_n and_o yet_o he_o cease_v not_o to_o remain_v a_o devil_n a_o hypocrite_n etc._n etc._n this_o need_v not_o be_v expound_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o if_o he_o have_v receive_v how_o do_v he_o still_o remain_v a_o hypocrite_n for_o that_o very_a night_n his_o wickedness_n do_v break_v forth_o and_o be_v put_v in_o execution_n but_o of_o the_o passeover_n receive_v by_o judas_n once_o and_o again_o if_o not_o the_o three_o time_n that_o chapter_n be_v of_o sacrament_n in_o general_a and_o that_o which_o be_v add_v be_v concern_v ananias_n and_o his_o wife_n their_o be_v baptize_v of_o the_o apostle_n however_o the_o very_a same_o chapter_n say_v that_o minister_n must_v thorough_o look_v to_o it_o and_o take_v diligent_a heed_n lest_o they_o give_v holy_a thing_n to_o dog_n or_o cast_v pearl_n before_o swine_n which_o be_v there_o apply_v to_o the_o sacrament_n and_o be_v not_o understand_v of_o preach_v and_o admonish_v only_o as_o m_n r_o prynne_n understand_v it_o also_o the_o book_n entitle_v ratio_fw-la disciplinae_fw-la ordinisque_fw-la ecclesâ—…astici_n in_fw-la unitate_fw-la fratrum_fw-la bohemorum_fw-la cap._n 7._o appoint_v not_o only_a church-discipline_n in_o general_a but_o particular_o suspension_n from_o the_o lord_n table_n of_o obstinate_a offender_n final_o whereas_o m._n prynne_n cit_v a_o passage_n of_o the_o antiquate_a common_a prayer_n book_n as_o it_o have_v lose_v the_o authority_n which_o once_o it_o have_v so_o that_o passage_n do_v not_o by_o any_o necessary_a inference_n hold_v forth_o that_o judas_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n as_o d._n kellet_n show_v at_o some_o length_n in_o his_o tricaenium_fw-la the_o citation_n in_o 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public_a if_o private_a he_o must_v give_v it_o lest_o