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A20900 A breefe aunswere of Iosephus Quercetanus Armeniacus, Doctor of Phisick, to the exposition of Iacobus Aubertus Vindonis, concerning the original, and causes of mettalles Set foorth against chimists. Another exquisite and plaine treatise of the same Iosephus, concerning the spagericall preparations, and vse of minerall, animall, and vegitable medicines. Whereunto is added diuers rare secretes, not heeretofore knowne of many. By Iohn Hester, practicioner in the spagericall arte.; Ad Jacobi Auberti De ortu et causis metallorum contra chymicos explicationem brevis responsio. English Du Chesne, Joseph, ca. 1544-1609.; Du Chesne, Joseph, ca. 1544-1609. De exquisita mineralium, animalium et vegetabilium medicamentorum spagyrica praeparatione et usu. English. aut; Hester, John, d. 1593. 1591 (1591) STC 7275; ESTC S109966 94,663 138

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