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be_v the_o first_o in_o the_o rue_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o head_n of_o that_o holy_a college_n â—herefore_o s._n cyprian_n in_o his_o three_o epistle_n to_o cornelius_n call_v the_o chair_n or_o sec_n of_o s._n peter_n the_o 〈◊〉_d or_o principal_n 〈◊〉_d then_o this_o touch_v any_o woâ—ds_n of_o s._n câ—prian_n 〈…〉_o if_o any_o man_n can_v there_o find_v iâ—_n polidore_n i_o will_v leâ—se_v my_o right_a hand_n for_o 〈◊〉_d and_o never_o write_v hereafter_o against_o any_o heretic_n but_o the_o book_n be_v common_a the_o place_n be_v intelligible_a and_o my_o eye_n and_o understanding_n serve_v i_o so_o well_o that_o i_o be_o sure_a polidore_n in_o that_o place_n expound_v not_o these_o word_n of_o s._n cyprian_n â—nde_fw-la â—nitas_fw-la sacerdot_n alis_fw-la exorta_fw-la est_fw-la what_o impudency_n then_o be_v it_o in_o m._n jewel_n for_o that_o these_o word_n seem_v to_o weigh_v much_o to_o bring_v forth_o the_o judgement_n of_o polidore_n a_o man_n that_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v indifferent_a impudency_n whereas_o they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o in_o polidore_n polidorus_fw-la virgilius_n say_v he_o expound_v the_o same_o word_n of_o s._n cyprian_n dare_v you_o say_v he_o expound_v they_o whereas_o he_o have_v not_o they_o he_o bring_v in_o s._n cyprian_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o see_v of_o s._n peter_n be_v principal_a but_o of_o vnitas_fw-la sacerdotalis_fw-la the_o unity_n of_o priesthood_n upon_o which_o word_n you_o make_v haste_n to_o show_v his_o exposition_n he_o make_v no_o mention_n he_o say_v in_o his_o own_o word_n not_o in_o s._n cyprian_n that_o the_o order_n of_o priesthood_n can_v not_o be_v sate_v to_o have_v grow_v first_o from_o the_o bishope_n of_o rome_n onlesse_a we_o understand_v it_o only_o by_o italy_n for_o priesthood_n be_v right_o institute_v at_o jerusalem_n but_o that_o the_o commendation_n geaven_v by_o s._n cyprian_n to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v geaven_v in_o respect_n only_o of_o italy_n and_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n he_o say_v it_o not_o nor_o intend_v it_o the_o order_n also_o of_o priesthood_n and_o unity_n of_o priesthood_n be_v two_o thing_n in_o the_o order_n be_v consider_v the_o author_n and_o effect_n of_o that_o sacrament_n in_o the_o unity_n be_v consider_v the_o preservation_n and_o government_n of_o that_o order_n of_o the_o order_n itself_o and_o where_o priesthood_n first_o begin_v polidore_n do_v speak_v of_o the_o unity_n and_o of_o the_o relation_n which_o all_o priest_n shall_v have_v to_o their_o chief_a head_n and_o governor_n s._n cyprian_n do_v speak_v and_o polidore_n say_v nothing_o the_o order_n begin_v at_o dierusalem_n and_o not_o at_o rome_n the_o unity_n i_o will_v not_o say_v begin_v at_o rome_n but_o after_o you_o â—_o s._n peter_n have_v by_o his_o martyrdom_n there_o take_v full_a possession_n of_o that_o see_v than_o be_v it_o seen_v where_o the_o principal_a church_n in_o all_o the_o world_n be_v and_o to_o