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A91859 Impudency and ranterism rebuked and the Quakers sincerity vindicated from a most unjust imputation of prevarication, cast upon them by Robert Rich and R. Bacon; whose spirits are discovered in this answer, which is published for the truth sake, / by G. Roberts. Roberts, Gerard, 1621?-1703.; Hookes, Ellis, d. 1681.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1670 (1670) Wing R1597; ESTC R182753 13,435 20

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And surely such will not own R.R. with his money nor any such Ranters who deem it a hard imposition to fear the Lord watch and keep to the Light so it appears he and his Fellow-members neither fear God nor watch nor walk in the Light But in his confusion he forgets himself for in p. 8. tells us of owning all that fear God and love Righteousness and thus over and over he contradicts himself And whereas he accuseth W.B. how true is a Question of saying Rich thou art a Whoremonger hast an Adulterous Whoremongers Spirit c. at which he seems greatly offended making chiefly these exceptions that it is a Judgment without knowledge or other proofs and that Christ Jesus refused to meddle with the Magistrates works bidding us read John 8. 3. and Luke 12. 13. To which we say R.R. has not in his answer cleared himself of these things which he takes as laid to his charge but rather hath rendred himself suspicious at least in that he would not have us to judge Whoremongers because it is the Magistrates work as he saith as also by his instance in that of John 8. 3. which is concerning the woman which was taken in Adultery and whether he doth really own that there is any such thing or action as Adultery in it self any more then his brethren the Ranters is a Question besides R.R. renders himself the more suspicious in the matter aforesaid that a little after he prefereth carnal Whoremongers Adulterers before us as those that shall sooner find Mercy It s no marvel he hath so much pleaded for Whoremongers and such as are of whoreish spirits when he hath set himself so shamelesly to rail at and reproach the Innocent So he is to be left to his own body which he is a member of as before who are of adulterous unclean ranting spirits whom God will judge And when as this Rich after he has vented forth his most bitter storm of railing and threatning us with rending tearing and devouring by the King of the Bottomless Pit he most wickedly and scorn fully adds these words p. 20. viz. Which thing tell G.F. that Foxyour King c. To which we say That as this Rich hath threatned us with being torn and devoured no doubt but the Devil and he would have it come to pass with his envy and venom he hath shewed in this as all People may see and thereupon he appeareth as the Devils Agent as one in a murderous blood-thirsty spirit as if he would instigate the outward Powers or Rulers to rend tear and devour us like the murderous Blood-thirsty Jews and Persecutors against Christ who when their Accusation against him of being a Blasphemer would not take to put him to death unjustly made this his Accusation that he made himself a King viz. The King of the Jews and that he was an Enemy to Caesar upon which he was cruelly put to death notwithstanding he had plainly given them account of his clearness of that matter telling them My Kingdom is not of this World and likweise we answer on the behalf of G.F. that he with the rest of the faithful Servants of Christ among us have such reverence to Christ and respect to his example as also such an innocent subjection to the Powers that are ordained of God that a worldly Kingdom they seek not neither is that our design to seek howbeit as G.F. and the rest of the faithful Followers of Christ among us have known Redemtion in him they are anointed and made by Christ Kings and Priests not after a carnal commandment but in the Power of an endless Life are made to raign over darkness envy and wickedness and over both the old Murderer R.R. and the Devil and the Ranters and such murderous spirits as seek to slay the Innocent and to crucifie the Innocency and Righteousness of the Son of God which R. R.hath sought to do in others as he hath in himself according to his doctrine in p. 24. And now we must a little look back to an Accusation of R.B. in his Preface against us where he accuseth us That our Glory is the abhorrancy certain outward Forms and Ceremonies introduced as he saith of old by wiser men then our selves to wit the Elders and Teachers of the People for a Manuduction to the holy Understanding of the Heavenly things whereby he saith Christianity was upheld in great Unity and glory for many hundred years till there was a strife about them c. Answ Now seeing that R.B. hath thus justified those outward Forms and Ceremonies which we deny and abhor without exception or declaring what they are and counts them a Manuduction to the holy Understanding and those things whereby Christianity was upheld t is therefore needful that we should hint what outward Forms and what Ceremonies they are that we abhor That they are such as are Superstitious and Idolatrous such as contraey to the Form of Godliness in the Night of Apostacy as Popish Idolatry bowing to Images their Doctrine Transubstantiation adoring a Piece of Bread or their Sacrament or Eucharist so called as being Christ the Lamb of God c. though but a Christ of their own making such Idolatrous and Heathenish Practises and whatsoever Forms or Ceremonies are brought in the Apostacy among pretended Christians which are upheld or imposed either by Papists or others contrary to the Example and Doctrine of Christ and his Apostles and contrary to the Dispensation of the Gospel Power of Godliness these and all such Forms Ceremonies and Practises do we deny and abhor however this R.B. counts those outward Forms and Ceremonies which we abhor as a manuduction to the holy Understanding c. without making distinction which see how exactly herein he hath acted the part of a Ranter for the Ranters used to say they own all Forms Wayes or Religions to be as so many steps and degrees towards Heaven not owning any distinction between Truth and Error true worship and false nor between the true spirit and the false but say that all are acted by one Power but the lying spirit doth act them to be sure and the Devil hath made Fools of R.R. and R.B. and the Ranters but the Power of the Lord and his living Truth is set and stands over all their heads and his Seed reigns over their wickedness and that wicked spirit in Rich who after he hath vented and shewed his Malice and Envy and Bloodthirsty spirit often useth that expression in the Revelation HALLELVJAH but we know that spirit that tempted Eve and Christ but Christ has bruised his head and the pit he must go down into from whence he came Lucifer is fallen let R.R. read G.W. A Postscript R. Rich We have taken notice of many of thy slanderous false Predictions and Railing more then related in this Answer and have collected above forty of them disperst in thy perverse Pamphlet which we have on record which at present we forbear publishing Thou art one of them that went out from us for no doubt hadst thou been of us thou wouldst have continued with us but thou went out that it might be made manifest that thou wert not of us John 2. and so now calls Light darkness good evil and evil good and now art become a wandring Star up and down in thy imaginations and now art become a raging Wave of the Sea casting up the mire and dirt as may be seen in thy book for had R.R. but Power we should have heard his Bell Book and Candle ere now but now being become twice dead and pluckt up by the roots and also see his malice rage envy and bloodthirsty mind against G.F. and all may see his mountain brings forth nothing but Bryars and Thorns and out of his mouth comes Wrath Bitterness Anger Clamour Evil-speaking and Malice so the Proverb is come upon him The Sow is turned to the wallowing in the mire and the Dog to the vomit any one that looks upon R.R. may see how the Sow is mired and what a vomit the Dog has cast up but it may be some of his spirit may lick it up especially they that received his gifts hoping to get 30. l. more such as R. Bacon But will the Fool say in his heart now there is no God that blasphems his Tabernacle and them that dwell in Heaven and so thou that hast uttered Slanders against thy Brethren art a Fool called by Solomon who hast shewed forth thy perverse lips and so thou who art so right in thy own eyes and scoffest at them that be in the eye of Faith art a Fool. But the lips of a Fool will swallow up himself and so this is come to pass upon thee Robert the beginning of thy mouth is foolishness and the end of thy talk is mischevious madness And bray a Fool in a morter and he will be never the wiser For anger rests in the Brest of a Fool for how long has anger and foolishness rested in the brest of R.R. ever since the dayes of J.N. even 11. or 12. years and hath shut out love and it is to be feared the envy foolishness and a lying spirit will guide him to his grave what is the matter that makes R.R. to rage because the Quaker would not receive his gift of thirty pieces which is published in two Pamphlets and sounded over the Nations here is a Pharisees Trumpet indeed and now because he cannot therein be accepted he appears Cain like as if he would murder as many that are not Quaker may see his expressions in his Book and see his wicked mind as his wicked devilish blood-thirsty words from a blood-thirsty spirit against G.F. his rage is so great but the Lord will reward him according to his works though for a time he may huff and puff and swell and rage had he been in Nebuchadnezers day he would have been a fit man to blow his fire as now he is blowing the fire fro the true Israslites with his envious spirit thinking thereby to castthem in but the fire will take hold of him first and the true Israelites wil lescape by the Power of God E.H. THE END