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A61627 Several conferences between a Romish priest, a fanatick chaplain, and a divine of the Church of England concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome, being a full answer to the late dialogues of T.G. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1679 (1679) Wing S5667; ESTC R18131 239,123 580

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