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A41825 A defence of Christian liberty to the Lords table except in case of excommunication and suspension wherein many arguments, queres, supposition, and objections are answered by plain texts and consent of Scriptures ... / by John Graunt ... Graunt, John, 1620-1674. 1646 (1646) Wing G1592; ESTC R36548 25,052 34

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parents be a beleever then are your children holy that is then have they right to the externall ordinance of God and in this sense the Apostle saith God hath shewed me not to call any man unholy or unclean that is whosoever beleeveth Jesus Christ come in the flesh may be baptized although before a Gentile and they and their houshold have right to Gods holy ordinance as Cornelius and his houshold Acts 10. And when you can prove that the Minister taking infants into his arms praying for them and washing them in the name of Christ or Ahrahams circumcising of Ishmael at the command of God is more then Christs taking them into his arms and blessing them then you will say something till then you declare your own fancy and say nothing to the purpose And for mixt congregations as you find fault with I pray are you sure your selves are not weeds and cockle but good corn if your selves were spirituall then you would know and understand the meaning of Gods spirit that both must be let alone till the harvest the end of the world as our Lord saith for till then there is no separation Matth. 13. 30. but wicked Cain may bring and offer his sacrifice with Abel the righteous persecuting Ishmael may communicate in the ordinance of God with persecuted Isaac the bitter and unclean hypocrite Simon Magus may bee washed or baptized in flesh as well as Philip Peter and John and the holy ones of God Acts 8. And although our Lord knew the Devillish treacherous heart of Judas yet his participation in the ordinances neither in Baptisme the Passeover or the Lords Supper did not prejudice nor no way hindered the spirituall communion of the faithfull for he participated in prayer Mat. 6. in preaching Mat. 10. in baptisme Mat. 3. 15. in the Passeover and Supper of the Lord Luke 22. 14 15 21. and yet none of Christs little holy ones makes your complaint for his carnall presence did no way detrifie their spirituall fellowship And in the third and last place we are to understand what is meant by setting up Christ upon his Throne and the fulfilling and accomplishing of all the prophesies and promises witnessed by the Apostles and Prophets And here now as with one consent you doe all of you unanimously affirm that all the Prophesies in the whole Scriptures are fulfilled in your congregated companies and that in doing that which you doe in assuming to your selves power to select congregations and prescribing to them the rules of Christ as you call them although indeed they are rules of your own making yet you therein set up Christ upon his throne and that your churches wayes and devised order the matter nor manner thereof being that which is not to be found in Scriptures yet you give it out to the world that by you and in your church government is fulfilled the prophesie of the new heavens and new earth promised of God and witnessed by the Prophet Isaiah and the Apostle Peter the heavenly countrey and citie that Abraham Isaac and Jacob sought for Heb. 11. the new Jerusalem that John saw come down from God out of heaven and Sion that holy and heavenly citie that great and strong citie that God hath appointed salvation for walls and bulwarkes Jer. 23. 9. 6. chap. 34. 15 16. Ezek. 37. 26 27 28. chap. 48. 35. and that of your gatherings it may be said the Lord is there applying to your selves Sions own happines Zeph. 3. 13 14 15 16 c. Isa 49. 21. Is it possible there should be such grosse blindnes in these daies in which men say they see and are in the light wherfore their great darknesse and all their bold avouchments like empericks which fil market places with noises and churches and chambers publick meetings and meeting-houses with voyces those that have written such volumes and printed such books to make known and advance these false doctrines to the belying the Prophets the wounding scaring and killing the truth their witnes and testimony the truth of God in a word will reprove them strip them and discover their nakednes and shame to all posterity by a few questions resolved by the letter of the Scriptures which is as clear light as the Sun-shine at noon dayes and yet these flying Bats cannot see the truth and light thereof The first question is What is the throne of Christ Secondly when the time shall bee that Christ shall sit in his own throne Thirdly what is meant by Sion mentioned by the Prophets And fourthly what we are to understand of the Churches glorious condition her deliverance and perfection the Scriptures so often speak of Now Christs throne is that which he calls his own throne as a note of d●stinction between his throne and his Fathers throne and therefore he saith Rev. 2. 21. To him that overcometh will I give to sit with me in my throne even as I also overcame and am set down with my Father in his throne And of this throne our Lord speaks Mat. 19. 28. When the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory verily yee also that have followed me in the regeneration shall also sit c. And of this throne of the Sonnes and not called the Fathers is that throne the Apostle speaks of Heb. 1. 8. But unto the Son he saith Thy throne O God is for ever and ever a scepter of righteousnesse is the scepter of thy kingdom And the Prophet calls him God also Psal 45 6. Thy throne O God is for ever ever c. To this kingly throne of God there belongs a kingdom a Church of Saints which he wil not perfect and accomplish till his return from heaven his coming again his appearing which is the second consideration propounded the time when Christ shal be set upon his throne and that is then saith the Prophet Psal 102. 16. W●en the Lord shall build up Sion he shall appear in his glory c. Even then saith the Apostle 2 Tim. 4. 1. When the Lord Jesus Christ shall judge the quick and the dead then sha●l be his appearing and kingdome Which prophesies are confirmed for truth by our Lords own testimony Mat. 25. 31 32. When the Son of man shall come in his glory c. v. 3. Then mark Then shal the King say unto them on his right hand Come yee blessed of my F●ther inherit the kingdome prepared for you from the foundation of the world Note againe ●ere is the reward the inheritance the kingdome all this world long preparing and promised which makes me wonder that so many seers have overseen mist the reading of these Scriptures which in their literall sense plainly preach that Christ shall not be advanced into his own throne in his own kingdom till the harvest at the end of this word Mat. 13. 30. 40. And therefore the holy Ghost uses the future tense in all his expressions As the Apostle saith It is the world to come
A DEFENCE OF Christian Liberty To the LORDS Table Except in case of Excommunication and Suspension Wherein many Arguments Queres Suppositions and Objections are answered by plain Texts and consent of Scriptures As also some Positions answered by way of a short Conference which the Author hath had with divers both in Citie and Countrey All which are profitable to inform to truth and lawfull obedience to Authoritie By John Graunt who beareth witnesse to the Faith Jerem. 10. 23. O Lord I know that the way of Man is not in himselfe it is not in Man that walketh to direct his steps 1 John 2. 26. These things have I written unto you concerning them which seduce you 2 Tim. 3. 13. But evill men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived Published according to Order London Printed for Iohn Hancock and are to be sold at his shop in Popes-head Alley 1646. THE PREFACE TO THE READER OUR Lord once asked a question of his Disciples Are yee able to drink of the Cup that I shall drink of and to be baptized with the Baptisme that I am baptized with In the answer he agrees with his servants that it should be so with them Mat. 20. 22. 23. And as this was the case of James and John so it was Peters and all the faithfuls also and is now and ever was Gods servants case and condition to suffer with him as truly as they shall reigne with him For as the shadow followes the naturall body so afflictions follow the Church the children of Truth his mysticall Body And as there is an universall daily proose of this truth so in particular at Woolchurch Anno 1645. for a modest and privat testimony of the two witnesses of sound Doctrine the testifier thereof was testified against with contempt and reproach which for the truths sake he hath patiently born not rendring evill for evill or railing for railing but contrariwise blessing knowing that the Lord calls his servants thereunto that they may inherit a blessing And notwithstanding the Parishioners his suffering he being not thereby discouraged went on in discovery of the truth and in opposition of the mistakes so that the questions were brought to publication in a small short Treatise called Christian liberty to the Lords Table against which authorized Tract I have received divers exceptions from severall friends yea friends which doth the more take my affection And the said exceptions under differing notions as below are mentioned All which with my defensive answers to each I again present with open face to the world And in conclusion a briefe recitall of some short Discourses I have had in my journey in the Countries with such as are opposite to the present government And because since the time my small Taper was lighted there hath risen a man of much eminency a burning glory a starre of great shining holding forth with Scripture Learning and Arts the subject and matter of my meditations yet the manner being different and my phrase stile and knowledge like my selfe low and mean I therefore commend my thoughts to such of my own capacity casting my mite into the Lords Treasury and thrusting in my weake and mean Sickle of plain workmanship into the Lords great harvest praying that all that read it with the same affection that I write it may gain the like benefit A Defence of Christian Liberty to the LORDS Table THE first thing I received by way of opposition to my book were six Arguments My first Argument against your Treatise saith my friend called Christian liberty to the Lords Table is this Because the Scripture doth not testifie of any particular man converted by the Sacrament alone Therefore it is a reason to me to beleeve the Sacrament doth not convert My Defence to your first Argument Friend by your first Argument you seem to divide between the Scriptures and the Sacrament in these words By the Sacrament alone which is a mistaking the point in hand For my book is intituled Christian liberty to the Lords Table the Title thereof shewing and preaching the quite contrary for there can bee neither Christians so called nor Sacraments so instituted where there is no Scriptures And that this might have been understood by you consider the Texts of the Old and New Testament alledged for proofe with the place Preacher and hearers instanced at Woolchurch in London Secondly there is no example that the reading the Scriptures doe convert should any man beleeve therefore the Lord doth not many times convert by reading We have no expresse Scripture to testifie that Peter James and John with the rest of the Apostles by name were outwardly baptized shall we therefore not beleeve it We doe not read that the Apostles Evangelists or Disciples of Christ did once or ever use the Lords prayer although he commanded it Luke 11. 2. is it therefore un awfull to use it And that the Supper of the Lord is a teaching Ordinance as it is a confirming ordinance we shall have many times occasion to cleare in making my defence His second Argument I doe not read in Scripture that the Sacrament was administred to any Christian Assembly till some of that Assembly were begotten to God by the word of truth which makes me beleeve that it was for the Saints sakes onely when it was instituted and administred and so to confirm and not to convert but to commemorate and strengthen My defence to your second Argument I doe not read in all the Scriptures that the participation of the Lords Supper was denied any common beleever for want of speciall faith and not being a spirituall Christian for although God did in a speciall sense institute and ordain all his ordinances for his elects sake for their regeneration and confirmation their spirituall communion with God in Christ yet I affirm that among these faithfull the outward and common Christians did in the Apostles times may now communicate in the outward common things of the word Sacraments for they that gladly received the word were baptized and continued in the Doctrine Sacraments and Prayer Acts 2. 41 42. And as it was thus at Ierusalem so it was at Samaria Acts 8. Corinth Ephesus Colosse and in all the Churches of the Saints And therefore the outward signes of the Sacraments were not ordained for the Saints onely but it is with Christians in our time as it was with Abraham and his seed that is the elect in these words Gen. 17. 7. I will be thy God and the God of thy seed but the outward signes of the covenant belonged to all his seed ingenerall and to the seed of all others that came to acknowledge the truth and beleeve the Scriptures His third Argument Because the right use of the Sacrament is onely and alone with the faithfull they onely have spirituall communion with the Lord in whose remembrance it was instituted My defence to your third Argument In my defence to your second