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ille_fw-la mentitur_fw-la qui_fw-la aliud_fw-la habet_fw-la in_o animo_fw-la &_o aliud_fw-la verbis_fw-la vel_fw-la quibuslibet_fw-la significationibus_fw-la enuntiat_fw-la augustin_n de_fw-fr mendac_fw-la c._n 3._o tom_n 4._o speak_v contrary_a to_o the_o truth_n with_o purpose_n to_o deceive_v the_o doctrine_n of_o equivocation_n so_o stiff_o maintain_v will_v prove_v they_o liar_n both_o formal_a and_o real_a wherein_o how_o far_o this_o generation_n have_v wade_v the_o affair_n of_o our_o state_n in_o our_o time_n have_v make_v know_v to_o woman_n and_o child_n but_o if_o the_o lie_n be_v free_a from_o evil_a intent_n as_o a_o officious_a or_o a_o merry_a lie_n and_o papist_n can_v define_v the_o foul_a lie_n that_o be_v to_o be_v such_o for_o a_o vantage_n than_o 615._o than_o rosell_n armil_n angel_n sa._n v._o mendacium_fw-la vocabul_a theolog_fw-la v._o mendac_n tolet._n de_fw-fr sept_fw-fr pecc_fw-la pag_n 930._o llam_fw-la sum_fw-la pag._n 615._o the_o school_n allow_v it_o well_o enough_o and_o think_v it_o at_o most_o but_o a_o venial_a but_o caietan_n 2._o caietan_n 22._o though_o qu._n 110._o art_n 2._o say_v he_o that_o without_o purpose_n of_o hurt_n tell_v a_o pernicious_a lie_n though_o he_o tell_v a_o formal_a lie_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o formal_o lie_v pernitious_o nor_o sin_n mortal_o unless_o peradventure_o it_o be_v by_o accident_n yet_o the_o jesuite_n you_o see_v say_v otherwise_o that_o with_o we_o it_o be_v hold_v which_o know_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o thomist_n against_o good_a conscience_n to_o tell_v a_o formal_a lie_n not_o in_o a_o hurtful_a matter_n only_o but_o in_o any_o whatsoever_o and_o so_o lay_v it_o upon_o the_o minister_n of_o geneva_n and_o england_n allege_v eudemons_n apology_n for_o garnet_n the_o father_n of_o lie_n and_o bolseck_n that_o debauch_v apostata_fw-la to_o prove_v it_o against_o they_o of_o geneva_n and_o d._n b._n a_o seminary_n priest_n to_o prove_v it_o against_o a_o english_a minister_n but_o for_o so_o much_o as_o these_o man_n be_v all_o papist_n &_o in_o such_o credit_n with_o the_o jesuite_n let_v d._n bishop_n who_o be_v one_o of_o they_o make_v my_o answer_n 120._o answer_n d._n bish_n repr_fw-la of_o d._n abb._n def_n pag._n 120._o any_o man_n not_o past_o all_o care_n of_o his_o reputation_n will_v be_v ashamed_a to_o cite_v such_o late_a partial_a writer_n for_o sufficient_a witness_n in_o matter_n of_o controversy_n wherein_o themselves_o be_v party_n and_o that_o he_o say_v of_o illyricus_n and_o bale_n two_o protestant_n when_o they_o be_v allege_v against_o he_o the_o same_o i_o return_v upon_o these_o three_o 183._o three_o p._n 183._o they_o be_v heretical_a and_o lie_v companion_n and_o therefore_o no_o sufficient_a witness_n 249._o witness_n p._n 249._o no_o great_a regard_n be_v to_o be_v have_v what_o such_o lie_a lewd_a fellow_n relate_v and_o so_o i_o think_v they_o worthy_a of_o no_o other_o answer_n by_o d._n b._n own_o rule_n therefore_o these_o be_v our_o adversary_n be_v no_o competent_a witness_n and_o it_o be_v but_o the_o poor_a jesuite_n ill_o hap_n to_o light_v on_o they_o when_o the_o first_o and_o principal_a be_v a_o crect_n by_o birth_n of_o that_o nation_n lou_z nation_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tit._n 1.12_o callimach_n hymn_n in_o lou_z that_o breed_v liar_n &_o write_v his_o book_n allege_v in_o defence_n of_o he_o that_o be_v the_o foul_a liar_n and_o formall_a equivocator_n that_o ever_o live_v inde_fw-la live_v see_v casaub_n ep_v ad_fw-la fronto_n p._n 116._o &_o inde_fw-la this_o man_n who_o eudemon_n defend_v have_v with_o grievous_a protestation_n and_o upon_o his_o salvation_n deny_v many_o truth_n and_o notorious_o his_o conference_n with_o hall_n the_o priest_n in_o the_o tower_n when_o afterward_o he_o be_v demand_v why_o he_o will_v do_v so_o in_o a_o paper_n he_o write_v &_o subscribe_v these_o word_n this_o i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v according_a to_o my_o opinion_n and_o the_o opinion_n of_o all_o the_o schoolman_n and_o our_o reason_n be_v for_o that_o in_o cause_n of_o lawful_a equivocation_n the_o speech_n by_o equivocation_n be_v save_v from_o a_o lie_n the_o same_o speech_n may_v be_v without_o perjury_n confirm_v by_o oath_n or_o by_o any_o other_o way_n though_o it_o be_v by_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n if_o just_a necessity_n so_o require_v henry_n garnet_n thus_o to_o quit_v themselves_o from_o lie_v and_o to_o lay_v the_o imputation_n upon_o other_o the_o jesuite_n have_v no_o other_o shift_n but_o to_o quote_v a_o lie_a crect_n in_o defence_n of_o a_o equivocate_a traitor_n who_o hateful_a name_n he_o will_v not_o have_v suffer_v to_o have_v appear_v in_o his_o margin_n to_o such_o a_o purpose_n have_v he_o well_o digest_v what_o they_o be_v and_o what_o they_o write_v and_o be_v he_o not_o one_o of_o those_o that_o love_v garnets_n treason_n and_o eudemons_n defence_n of_o it_o better_a than_o we_o yet_o know_v of_o he_o will_v have_v use_v other_o witness_n a._n d._n but_o if_o they_o know_v in_o their_o conscience_n as_o perhaps_o some_o of_o they_o do_v their_o cause_n to_o be_v false_a and_o bad_a 47._o pag._n 47._o than_o i_o counsel_v they_o quite_o to_o abandon_v it_o without_o delay_n and_o no_o way_n in_o word_n or_o write_v to_o maintain_v it_o especial_o by_o offer_v untruth_n in_o defence_n of_o it_o in_o regard_n such_o man_n ought_v to_o know_v that_o to_o persist_v in_o a_o know_a bad_a cause_n and_o to_o maintain_v it_o by_o such_o a_o know_a bad_a mean_n can_v but_o great_o increase_v both_o sin_n and_o shame_n and_o will_v without_o repentance_n bring_v upon_o they_o certain_a and_o double_a damnation_n last_o if_o any_o of_o they_o have_v such_o sear_a conscience_n that_o they_o make_v no_o conscience_n but_o think_v they_o may_v with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n persist_v in_o maintain_v the_o protestant_n cause_n after_o they_o know_v it_o to_o be_v false_a and_o
aliquos_fw-la viros_fw-la spirituales_fw-la tantopere_fw-la in_o exercitus_fw-la spiritualibus_fw-la &_o in_o familiaritate_fw-la divina_fw-la proficere_fw-la ut_fw-la absque_fw-la ulla_fw-la temeritate_fw-la possint_fw-la rectè_fw-la &_o absque_fw-la ulla_fw-la haesitatione_n credere_fw-la se_fw-la invenisse_fw-la gratiam_fw-la &_o remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la andr._n vega._n pro_fw-la council_n p._n 313._o our_o adversary_n some_o few_o jesuite_n except_v who_o be_v but_o one_o and_o a_o upstart_n faction_n against_o the_o mayor_n part_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n free_o yield_v unto_o first_o that_o a_o justify_v man_n may_v have_v such_o certainty_n of_o the_o remission_n of_o his_o sin_n as_o be_v void_a of_o all_o fear_n and_o doubt_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o any_o man_n may_v certain_o know_v there_o be_v such_o a_o place_n as_o rome_n constantinople_n london_n do._n bannes_n 225._o bannes_n in_o tho._n 22._o q._n 18._o art_n 4._o concl_n 3._o the_o same_o say_v tolet._n in_o rom._n 5._o v._n 5._o p._n 225._o say_v our_o hope_n whereby_o we_o look_v for_o salvation_n be_v and_o be_v call_v simple_o such_o as_o can_v deceive_v we_o and_o firm_a and_o safe_a both_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n because_o through_o the_o divine_a promise_n and_o power_n of_o god_n mercy_n whereupon_o it_o lean_v it_o can_v no_o more_o deceive_v we_o than_o faith_n in_o who_o testimony_n it_o be_v found_v martin_n isengren_n have_v write_v a_o whole_a book_n of_o purpose_n to_o show_v this_o point_n in_o it_o he_o have_v these_o word_n 228._o word_n eisengren_n pro_fw-la conc_fw-fr trid._n de_fw-fr certit_fw-la great_a p._n 228._o i_o have_v many_o a_o time_n and_o often_o visit_v the_o sick_a and_o be_v with_o they_o that_o have_v die_v and_o no_o man_n can_v report_v of_o i_o but_o that_o as_o soon_o as_o they_o have_v declare_v their_o repentance_n i_o exhort_v they_o with_o all_o diligence_n to_o have_v a_o undoubted_a and_o certain_a confidence_n that_o our_o most_o merciful_a god_n will_v for_o the_o merit_n of_o his_o son_n without_o all_o doubt_n forgive_v they_o their_o sin_n and_o after_o this_o life_n give_v they_o his_o heavenly_a kingdom_n yea_o he_o say_v 217._o say_v pag._n 217._o all_o the_o chief_a divine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n who_o writing_n for_o that_o purpose_n he_o have_v read_v and_o search_v though_o they_o do_v not_o allow_v a_o man_n to_o be_v altogether_o secure_a and_o free_a from_o all_o care_n and_o heedfulness_n yet_o ore_fw-la yet_o vniversi_fw-la uno_fw-la ore_fw-la all_o of_o they_o with_o one_o voice_n teach_v that_o we_o must_v not_o tremble_v or_o mistru_v but_o have_v a_o firm_a hope_n and_o certain_a confidence_n 254._o confidence_n omnes_fw-la orthodoxi_fw-la receptique_fw-la theologi_fw-la quotquot_fw-la tam_fw-la inde_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la temporibus_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la usque_fw-la annum_fw-la vixerint_fw-la 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