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A60564	The Quaker disarm'd, or, A true relation of a late publick dispute held at Cambridge by three eminent Quakers against one scholar of Cambridge ; with a letter in defence of the ministry and against lay-preachers ; also several quæries proposed to the Quakers to be answered if they can.	Smith, Thomas, 1623 or 4-1661.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Allen, William, d. 1686.; Fox, George, 1624-1691.	1659 (1659)	Wing S4227; ESTC R18877	22,488	24

B. Saviour yet was not by any thought fit to be termed an Apostle till he had a speciall call to that office Act 1.23 29. 2ly Considering that Ioseph sirnamed Barsabas was a witness to all this as well as Matthias yet never exercised the Apostleship though it seems the Church of Christ esteemed him fit for it because he was not ordained thereto ●nymore then many others who where educated in the schole of Christ as well ●s the best 30. 3ly Considering that the most Blessed Iesus himself the only begotten son of God often profest that he came not without being sent Io. 17.8.18 Nor preacht any thing but what he heard nor did any thing but what he was commanded and this in a time when there was confessedly very great necessity of Reformation And then with what face other then brazen can any man now justifie the doing these things of himself who neither pretends that he is the Son of God nor yet that he seeth such a necessity of Reformation 31. Lastly considering that not only those Christians who lived neerest the times of our Saviour who probably might know more of his institution than t is possible we at this distance should but all succeeding ages for 1600. Years have had a Clergy and a discipline Certainly Sir we have sins as great as any of them the old sins to mortifie I heartily wish to God we had no new ones too then unheard of and therefore certainly we stand in as much need of Physicians as any of them did of all the blessed remedies and wholesome medicines against them which our good God hath appointed 32. I might adde many other places of Scripture as 2. Cor. 5.19 God hath reconciled us to himself by Christ Jesus and given to us the Ministery of reconciliation Now then we are Embassadours for Christ Wherein I entreat you to Observe that he saith committed to us the ministry of reconcilation here then is an appropriate Ministry not common to all the vulgar We are Embassadours T is limited to some few by vertue of a commission All cannot be Embassadours The Church is a body and all cannot be ears or eyes 1. Cor. 12.14.15.16 33. But I must not omit the answer which your friend made to Rom. 10.15 he said he was sent by the Church of Christ at Bedford To which I replyed 1. That that which he called the Church of Christ at Bedford could not send him or give him power to preach c. Because nothing can give that which it self hath not That Church consisting only of women and a few Lay-men is not in indeed a Church of Christ none of them hath power to preach or administer the Sacraments and therefore none of them can give the Tinker power to preach and administer the Sacraments 34. 2. The Church of Antioch was in all probability very numerous in those dayes when miracles were ordinary and three thousand were converted in one place at one sermon and yet in all the Scripture you shall not find by any word the least sign that those many people who were thus converted at Antioch did joyn together in Church-duties and ordinances as the Lords supper which the primitive and best Christians received every day Act. 2.42.46 and the people of your Town have not desired as I hear these fourteen years untill Barnabas and Paul had been with them When these two who were ordained Ministers of the word came unto them then and not till then were the Christians at Antioch termed a Church Act. 11. from the 20th verse to the 27th 35 I confess 't is both lawful and laudable for private Christians to endeavour the conversion of any that be indeed Infidels or Unbelievers to the truth of the Gospel or to teach children or servants the Catechisme c. and if this Tink●● had done no more staid at Bedford and taught his Family the Lords Prayer the Apostles Creed the Ten Commandments and the Doctrine of the Sacraments which things few of his followers in these parts can endure to hear of or if he had followed S. Pauls advice 1 Thes. 4.11 studied to be quiet and done his own business I should have nothing to have said against him 'T is lawful for private Christians to do what they can to convert Jews or Turks or Heathens or Atheists that is to prepare stones for the building of the Church as the antient Ecclesiastical stories tell us that Frumentius and AEdesius did in India and the captive maid in Iberia but after they be converted after they are baptized to unite these together and make up a building to assemble them in an Ecclesiastical bodie to usurp the Pulpit and that power which our Saviour distributed when he said All power is given to me both in Heaven and Earth go ye therefore and preach This is such a piece of presumption as we read not in the Acts of the Apostles nor in any other Ecclesiastical story that I have seen that any of the primitive Christians were ever guilty of But all this your T. hath been guilty of and much more For he hath not only intruded into the Pulpits in these parts and caused the people of your Town to hate their lawful Minister Mr. Iohn Ellis sen but as he told me encouraged them to proceed so far as to cudgel him and break open the Church doors by violence I wonder what example or precept in the Scripture he hath for this When he hath read Tit. 3.2 I desire him to see his doom 1 Pet. 4.15 where {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} that is one that thrusts himself in to preach in another mans parish against his consent is reckoned by the H. Ghost among no honester men then a Thief and a Murderer This will be a sad Text for him when the books shall be opened before him at the great Judgement day 36. And here I give you under my hand what I professed to the T 's face that if I could see any reason to draw me out of the true ancient Catholick and Apostolick Church into which I was baptized whereof the Church of England is the soundest part as I am ready to make appear against the Papists and all other new and old Schismaticks and Hereticks their Confederates If I say I could see any reason to draw me out of that Church into your Schisme who encourage the Tinker to preach I see not what should stop me from running into the worst Sect in the world from being an Anabaptist or Ranter or Quaker or Antiscripturist or what not 37 Give me leave to tell you a storie you gave the Tinker leave to tell you several of things done at Bedford T is out of S. Augustines Notes on Iohn 1.2 3. All things were made by him S. Austin saith that a Manichee another being troubled with Flies and disputing one of them said he thought that our good God could not be the Creator of such troublesome Insects Why then replied the

argument He who denyes the Bible to be the word of God saying that to assert Scripture to be the word of God is one of the deceitfull imaginations which the Priests of this generation have deceived the People with that man is an Heretick but you deny the Bible to be the word and tell Mr. Townsend that to assert it is one of the deceitfull imaginations which the Priests of this generation have deceived the People with Therefore you are an Heretick see here your own book p. 1. lin. 1. In stead of answering this argument about the word of God they started back to the former about the Trinitie and Fox said F. They cannot be three Persons because they were not visible in severall places I can see that man and he can see the other S. If Christ was man and the H. Ghost was in the form of a Dove then they were both seen F. Prove that they were seen in severall places S. Christ was seen when the H. Ghost was not seen therefore they both were seen in severall places one in the water the other out of it F. Prove that they were seen S. If many beheld them both and this their seeing was upon record we saw and they who see it bare record and we know that our record is true then they were seen But many beheld them at once and this their sight was upon record F. The H. Ghost could not be seen S. If he was in the form of a Dove then he could be seen but he was in the form of a Dove F. Not in the form of a Dove but he was in the likeness of a Dove Whereat some laughing he answered again that he was seen but not visible S. Then he was visible and invisible F. Yea. S. Then contradictions may be true at once then you may be a Quaker and no Quaker a Papist and no Papist an Heretick and no Heretick Hereupon Alderman Blackly who is a Quaker said to T. S. I think 't is time now to leave off S. I think so too when he saith contradictions may be true at once F. I pray take notice all of you that this Book Ishmael and his Mother cast out about which so much stir hath been was not writ by me but by this man pointing at G. Whitehead S. True but you defended it I came to dispute him if I had known of your disputing I would have brought one of Your Books THE END A Letter sent to Mr. E. of Taft four miles from Cambridge a Year since to which no answer hath been returned Sir 1. SInce you had not so much patience as to hear me t'other day nor would suffer your daughters to tarry I now make use of my first hour of leasure to write to you part of that which you might have heard me speak then Hoping that you and they whom I look on as having more breeding then any other his Auditors that I saw will not believe him whom his friends generally call the Tinker upon his bare word but like those noble Bereans Acts 17.11 with readiness of minde search the Scripture whether those things were so 2. I guess at the breeding of most of his followers by this passage One of the chief of them viz. Daniel Angier who invites him to that Town entertains him in his house lends him his Barn for a meeting place when I charged him in that place with maintaining that God was a body viz. that he had hands feet a face c. like one of us saying that he contradicted me in my Churchyard after I had preacht the contrary from Iohn 4.24 he told me plainly before all the people when he saw his Ring-leader T. would not defend it that I lyed whereas my whole Parish are ready to witness the truth of what I said 3. But to the purpose I shall in this paper follow that method which the T. commanded me though I desired the contrary shewing first his false doctrine and then prove 't is a dangerous sin in him to preach as he did publikely and in the people to hear him 4. He said in his Sermon that God would lay before us at the day of Judgment 4 books viz. the book of his remembrance 2. the book of the creatures 3. the book of the Law of Moses 4. the book of the Gospel By the book of the creatures he said he meant this or that cup of bear or pot of wine whereby a man is drunk the timber in the wall c. 5. I answer that 't is impossible God should set these this book before us at the day of Judgement because the Scripture saith 2. Pet. 3.10 that the earth and the works therein shall be burnt up If all these shall be burnt up how shall they be laid before us pots and cups c. Had he said that the Conscience should represent these things unto us he had spoken sense but he made the conscience a witness at that bar and not a book 6. When I told him that Christians should not be judged at that day by the book of the creatures but the Gospel he answer'd that he did not take his Auditory to be Christians but unbelievers and in his Sermon I heard him utter these words I know that the most of you are unbeleevers 7. Formerly I have wondred that most of his followers were sad melancholly persons not looking nor behaving themselves like other folk hereafter I shall never wonder if I see or hear they are mad for such speeches as these are dreadful and very uncharitable tending to no other end but to make good people run out of their wits if they have not more then to believe him For I pray consider that an unbeleever is an Infidel that is either a Jew or a Turk or a Pagan or an Atheist persons who shall be damned as sure as that God is true Mar. 16.16 with whom 't is unlawful for any Christian to marry 2 Cor. 6.14 Now if this famous preacher should descend to particulars come to you and your three children and say to each singly Thou art a Jew and thou a Turk thou an Atheist and thou a Pagan I am confident you would be ready not only to say but if urged to swear that he did you a world of wrong And you cannot but think the rest of the company in that Barn as ready to profess the same as you 8. But supose most of them had been unbelievers yet 't is impossible that he being a stranger and having never seen half those faces before could know it For nothing can be the object of any mans knowledge but that which is as certain as any thing can be 9. S. Paul calls those Saints and beloved of God to whom he wrote he never called them unbelievers though some of them were as bad as any of the people in your barn See Rom. 1.7 1 Cor. 1.2 2 Cor. 1.1 Ephes. 1.1 Phil. 1.1 Col. 1.2 10. And as I told him all the