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A91809 A looking glasse for the Anabaptists and the rest of the separatists: wherein they may clearly behold a brief confutation of a certain un-licensed, scandelous pamphlet, intituled, The remonstrance of the Anabaptists, by way of vindication of their separation. The impertinancies, incongruities, non-consequences, falsities, and obstinacy of William Kiffen, the author, and grand ring leader of that seduced sect is discovered and laid open to the view of every indifferent eyed reader that will not shut his eyes against the truth. With certaine queries, vindicated from Anabaptisticall glosses, together with others propounded, for the information and conviction, (if possible) the reformation of the said William Kiffen and his prosylites. / By Josiah Ricraft, a well willer to the truth. Published by authority. Ricraft, Josiah, fl. 1645-1679. 1645 (1645) Wing R1430; Thomason E299_9; ESTC R200250 22,283 33

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townéere a hin to wicked Sanbalat and Tobias Neh. 4.1 2 3. who mocked at the beginning of the building of Jerusalem and we may iustly against the whole sect of you Anabaptists make that prayer of Nehemiah Neb. 4.4 Heare O our God for we are dupised and turne their reproach upon their own heads for they have provoked thee to anger before the builders and I may speak the words of Zac. 4.10 For who hath despised the day of small things And know that however your eyes are blind and you drunke with your own conceits and will not sée what the great change is of Episcopacy into Presbytry and the Book of common prayer into a Directory yet all the Reformed Churches sée it and wonder at it and blesse GOD for it yea they looke upon that you count Reformation as a Deformation who instead of Ministers gifted and called by GOD to dispence the Word and Sacraments have Jeroboams Priests of the lowest and basest of men to be your Priests and such whom God Himselfe rejects for want of knowledge And whereas you thinke you are sled out of Babilon you are come into Babell of confusion and errours and your churches ministers and people are like a Bedlam sit to receive none but brainsick distracted santastick persons and wholly unsuietable for all sober godly and conscientious Christians I shall conclude my Reply to your discourse upon this Querie in reference to your Seperate méettings with that prayer of good old Jacob in another ●ase Gen. 49.6 O my soule come not thou into their secrets unto their Assemblies my honour be not thou anited QUERIE III. VVHat warrant have you either to be a Member much lesse a Minister of any such separate Congregation Kiff Ans This Querie as I conceive is added more for number then for waight for who can be so ignorant as to think a congregation can be without members therefore that we can prove our congregations true our membership must needs be true I would not speak any more to this Querie but that I see you pinch so hard upon our seperation in foure of your Queries to which I shall give a more full answer to prove our seperation true from your assemblyes and first it cannot be denyed but Iesus Christ is of the Father Anoynred to be the head of the Church which is his body Eph 1.20.22.23 Coll 1.18 and that we are commanded only to here him Deut 18.15 Acts 3.22 and 7.37 Math 17 5 Pet 1 17 and that whosoever will not heare and obey him the Lord will require it at his hands Deut 18 19. Acts 3 27. Math 7.26.27 and hereby we know we love God and he loves us when we keepe his Commandements 1. Iob 2.3 5.2 3. now then that we can not keep faith and a good Consciencein obeying all the Commands of CHRIST so long as we assemble our selves with you then are we necessitated to seperate our selves from you btu that we cannot keep faith a good conscience so with you these scriptures prove compared with your practice 2 Thess 3 6. 1 Cor 5 11 2 Tim. 2 21 3 5 Eph. 5 1. to the 14. with many other scriptures but in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses every trueth shall stand now then so long as you deny to follow the rule of Iesus Christ and are not obedient to his comands reject the word of God which is given by Christ for the separating of wicked from the godly seperating the pretious from the vile as Mat 18.15.16.17 1 Cor 5.4.5.11.13 we are bound in obedience to Iesus Christ to leave you whilest you remaine obstina●e to him and as it is with a naturall body which receives in all and wants power to voyde the excrements must needs become a rotten filthy uncleane body even so it is with all false spirituall states who by power and authority given to them by the civill magistrate they command all both rich and poor to subject to their worship whether their consciences be brought over to see it a truth or no or else they may not live amongst them or use any traffique with them Rev 13 16 17 and so become the hold of all soule spirits and a cage for every uncleane birde Rev 18 7. now I would but appeale to any reasonable religious men whether England hath not at this time in her as hatefull birds as any nation whatsoever and whether there be not at this day an authority to force in al to worship the d●ily experience of this may be seene by the practice of those which would be counted the most knowing learned men of our times who will have men to worship with them against their wills and soe makes them as the formall hipocrites and therefore when these things doe so appear is it not high time to harken to the voyce of the Apostle Acts 2 40. to save our selves from such a generation and to come out from them Rev 18 4. now that these spoken of with many other which might be brought as the quenching of the spirit and despising prophesie so that no man may speake in your publicke exercises but one that hath the same call and power as those whom you now have cast off contrary to these scriptures 1 Pet 4 10. Heb 10 25. Coll. 3 16. Eph 4 15 16. 1 Cor 12 7 8 14 24 26 31 39. as also all superstitious consecrations to the great deluding of poor ignorant people inraging them against those which worship any where save in your high places contrary to these expresse texts of Scripture Iob 4 20 24. As also continuing of tithes offerings of the people as that Christ were not come in the flesh as that the Clergie of the Kingdome were the tenth parte of the Kingdome for number when as they themselves will tell God in their praiers that the harvest is great but the laborers are but few an act so unjust by them to bee demanded that reason would abhor that a few men in a Kingdome should have the tenth part of the riches of the Kingdome and yet so eagerly persued by them that though the paying of it bee the undoing of men they will have it and therefore pursue men in au●hority at bed and board in pulpit and privat chamber to have power put into their hands to that end as likewise their cruelty in refusing a place of Buriall in their consecrated ground except they have so much mony as perhaps the parties have not in all the world to give them all which considered wi●h many more I desire you to consider of and that yet it be not a sufficient ground to you for the confirmation of our Iust separation yet know it is to us and unlesse you can show us that Christ Iesus is not to be harkened to as well in these Scriptures given for the establishment of the new testament as Moses was in the establishment of the ould and under the penalty of the same
and lesse testified then it was to the Iewes which to afirm were a great indiguity offered unto Iesus Christ Thirdly if Infants may not be Baptized where is the enlargement of the Covenant or fulfilling of the Commission of Iesus Christ Matt. 28.19 20. It was the Apostles practise at their Preaching of the Gospel throughout the world to Baptize both the House-holders the Houshold 1 Co. 1.16 Acts 16.35 with Acts 16.15 Children of beléevers they are holy as they are within the Covenant Abrahams séede they be joynt heires by the promise of the kingdom of GOD and of Christ there is no reason therefore to with-hold the Baptisme of Water from them whom GOD Himselfe vouchsafeth the Baptisme of His Spirit with the blessings of Abraham for an inheritance of his everlasting Kingdome 1. Cor. 7.14 and Rom. 11.16 with Acts 3.25 also Isa 46.3 4. and Gal. 3.2 with Psal 22.23.30 31. and Luke 1.41.44 with Acts 20.47 48. also Rom. 8.9.16 and Luke 19.9 with Mark 10.13 14 15 16. And for the conclusion of your discourse upon this my first Querie I say to you as Christ said in another case Goe and learne what these Scriptures meane Jude 19. These be they that Seperate 1. John 2.19 They went out from us but they were not of us QUERIE II. By what Scripture warrant do you take upon you to erect now framed Congregations Seperated to the disturbance of the great worke of Reformation now in hand Kiff-Ans This Querie hath in it these 2 parts 1. That we erect new framed seperate Congregations secondly we do by this disturbe the great worke of reformation now in hand To the first it is well knowne to many espetially to our selues that our Congregations were erected and framed as now they are according to the rule of Christ before we heard of any reformation even at that time when Episcopacy was in the hight of its vanishing glory we are confident will remaine in the despit of all cruelty euen when they were ploting threatning the ruine of all those which opose it we hope you wil not say we sinned in seperating from them whose errours you now condemne and yet if you shall still continew ta brand us with the names of Annabaptists Sismaticks Heriticks and for saving our selves from such a generation Acts 240 as you your selves have cut of and from such a superstitious worships as you say shal be reformed we conceive it is your ignorance or worse and though you condemne us Christ will justify us even by that word of his which hee hath given us we de●siret to practice and have alreadie commended to you in the conclusion of our answer to the first Querie And for the second part of your Querie that we disturb the great worke of reformation now in hand I know not what you meane by this charg unlesse it be in that you are angry with us in that we disturb you in reforming our selves before you for as yet we haue not in our understanding seene neither can we conceive of any thing that we shall see reformed by you accorbing to trueth but that through mercy we inioy the practis of the same already and wheras you tell us that the work of reformation is now in hand noe reasonable men will force us to disist from the practice of that which we are perswaded is according to truth and wait for that which wee know not what it will bee and in the meane time practice that which you your selves say must be reformed but wheras you tell us of a great worke of reformation we should intreat you to shew us wherin the greatnesse of it doth consist for as yet we see noe greatngsse unlesse it be in the vast expence of mony and time for what great things is it to chang Episcopacy into presbitery and a book of Common prayer into a Directory and to exalt men from livings of 100. l. a yeare to places of 400. l paranum for I pray consider is there not the same power the same preists the same people the same worshipp and in the same manner still continued but when we shall see the great work of reformation appeare that you have framed your Congregation according to that true and unchangeable patterne 1 Cor 3.9.10.11 according to the command of our saviour Matth 19.20 and the Apostles practice Acts 2 41 5 13.14 made all thinges sutable to the pattern as Mos●s did Exo 25 40. Hebr. 8 5 you will see I hope that we shall be so farr from disturbing the work as that we shall be one with it The Reply FOR your Answer to this my second Querie instéed of shewing Scripture warrant for such a private man as you are to erect a new framed Congregation You alledge ledge your own practise that your Congregation was erected and framed even in the time of Episcopacy and that before you heard of any Reformation I pray you what answer doe you thinke in your own conscince this is to the Querie propounded I aske for Scripture warrant you aledge your practise as if your practise must be scripture warrant but because all this while you have aledged no Scripture warrant either of precept or allowed example I put the question again more particularly What scripture warrant private persons have to gather of themselves Churches either under Episcopacy or Presbytry take which you please And as to the second part of your discourse to this my second Querie which impleys the disturbance of that great worke of Reformation now in hand That cannot help you that you say your pretended Congregations were erected before you heard of any Reformation And if it should be granted yours possible might he not what shall we say to those multitudes of Congregations that have vène erected since they heard of Reformation they are not salved by your discourse But it séemes you much care not what became of the Ship so your cabinet be saved and besides the continuance of yours and such like Congregations which might be erected and framed with a gidey headed multitude of persons since a●●d to them and your i● carriage since are so great a disturbance to the worke of Reformation that all that run may read it which will save me the labour to prove it onely let me minde you of certain considerations put out in Print even by Subscription of the hands of some of the primest Independent brethren who do diswade all from seperation as an hinderance of the great worke of Reformation now in hand And wheras in your discourse upon this Querie you do in a most Sacasticall manner speak of the great work of Reformation as consisting in the vast expence of money and time and ex●●l●ing as you say men of 100 a yeare to 400. a yeare In this you shew your self to be of the number of those Seperatists St. Jude foretold of Jude 16. There shall be Mockers in th● last times And also to be