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A45832 Saturday no sabbath, or, The seventh-day Sabbath proved to be of no force to the beleeving Gentiles in the times of the Gospel, by the law of nature, Moses, Christ being an account of several publique disputations held at Stone-Chappel by Pauls, London, between Dr. Chamberlain, Mr. Tillam, and Mr. Coppinger ... and Jer. Ives ... : together with an appendix in which the said question is more fully and plainly discussed ... / by Jer. Ives. Ives, Jeremiah, fl. 1653-1674. 1659 (1659) Wing I1104; ESTC R24396 120,548 256

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the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n but_o there_o be_v text_n that_o require_v the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n to_o observe_v it_o and_o therefore_o by_o consequence_n believe_v gentile_n be_v to_o observe_v it_o if_o they_o be_v god_n people_n and_o servant_n mr._n ives_n sir_n what_o proof_n you_o have_v you_o may_v spare_v it_o till_o we_o be_v agree_v how_o to_o dispute_v however_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v i_o tell_v you_o though_o you_o prove_v the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n be_v require_v to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n this_o will_v not_o reach_v our_o difference_n because_o the_o jewe_n be_v call_v both_o god_n servant_n and_o people_n who_o we_o say_v be_v bind_v to_o keep_v it_o but_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o all_o believe_a gentile_n be_v bind_v to_o it_o mr._n tillam_n well_o if_o i_o make_v it_o appear_v by_o those_o or_o the_o like_a consequence_n that_o believer_n in_o gospel-time_n be_v to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n i_o hope_v it_o will_v suffice_v mr._n ives_n i_o wonder_v that_o mr._n tillam_n shall_v be_v destitute_a of_o plain_a scripture_n to_o prove_v his_o practice_n especial_o consider_v that_o he_o blame_v man_n in_o his_o book_n page_n 96._o for_o set_v up_o ordinance_n by_o consequence_n and_o call_v such_o a_o practice_n philosophy_n and_o vain_a deceit_n of_o man_n whenas_o now_o himself_o have_v no_o plain_a text_n to_o prove_v his_o practice_n by_o mr._n tillam_n i_o think_v god_n have_v a_o design_n to_o promote_v my_o poor_a book_n therefore_o if_o any_o body_n have_v a_o desire_n to_o it_o they_o may_v have_v it_o at_o livewel_n chapman_n in_a popes-head-alley_n or_o at_o mr._n eversden_v in_o paul_n churchyard_n mr._n ives_n sir_n we_o meet_v not_o here_o to_o procure_v customer_n for_o your_o book_n but_o to_o dispute_v and_o therefore_o if_o you_o will_v prove_v your_o practice_n by_o plain_a scripture_n do_v for_o since_o you_o have_v cry_v down_o all_o other_o way_n both_o syllogistical_a and_o consequential_a i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o you_o shall_v not_o keep_v to_o your_o own_o rule_n prescribe_v by_o yourself_o in_o your_o book_n however_o that_o we_o may_v not_o spend_v time_n to_o no_o purpose_n i_o shall_v be_v content_a so_o you_o prove_v the_o proposition_n take_v what_o way_n you_o will_v provide_v that_o you_o prove_v either_o the_o antecedent_n or_o the_o consequence_n by_o plain_a text._n mr._n tillam_n well_o then_o i_o will_v proceed_v to_o prove_v that_o all_o believe_a gentile_n be_v bind_v to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n thus_o if_o that_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o man_n to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n than_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o every_o believe_a gentile_a but_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o man_n to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o every_o believe_a gentile_a to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n it_o be_v worthy_a observation_n that_o though_o mr._n tillam_n have_v profane_v the_o rule_n of_o syllogistical_a disputation_n and_o cry_v down_o all_o consequential_a way_n of_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o any_o duty_n yet_o he_o himself_o be_v force_v at_o last_o to_o build_v up_o this_o sanctuary_n that_o he_o have_v be_v pull_v down_o and_o hallow_v that_o way_n which_o he_o have_v before_o profane_v by_o make_v use_n of_o it_o to_o prove_v his_o practice_n though_o he_o have_v before_o cry_v it_o down_o as_o profane_v mr._n ives_n sir_n you_o argue_v thus_o viz._n if_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n than_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o believe_a gentile_n but_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o man_n etc._n etc._n ergo._n i_o deny_v the_o minor_a viz._n that_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o man_n to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n mr._n tillam_n this_o i_o prove_v our_o of_o mark_n 2.27_o where_o it_o be_v say_v the_o sabbath_n be_v make_v for_o man_z and_o not_o man_n for_o the_o sabbath_n where_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o law_n be_v make_v for_o the_o subject_n and_o not_o subject_n for_o the_o law_n even_o so_o the_o sabbath_n be_v make_v for_o man_n and_o not_o man_n for_o the_o sabbath_n again_o whatever_o be_v make_v for_o adam_n be_v make_v for_o all_o man_n but_o the_o sabbath_n be_v make_v ●or_a adam_n because_o in_o the_o text_n it_o be_v make_v for_o man_n and_o the_o word_n in_o greek_a be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o in_o latin_a homo_fw-la which_o comprehend_v all_o man_n and_o so_o do_v adam_n mr._n ives_n mr._n tillam_n in_o his_o book_n say_v god_n be_v plain_a pag._n 96._o and_o wonder_n that_o people_n will_v bring_v consequence_n in_o stead_n of_o plain_a precept_n but_o it_o seem_v there_o be_v neither_o plain_a precept_n nor_o plain_a consequence_n to_o be_v find_v for_o his_o practice_n for_o first_o there_o be_v neither_o a_o command_n to_o all_o man_n much_o less_o to_o all_o believer_n in_o this_o text._n again_o i_o do_v confute_v your_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n adam_n out_o of_o your_o own_o book_n pag._n 14._o where_o it_o be_v object_v that_o adam_n be_v in_o honour_n do_v not_o abide_v a_o night_n psal_n 49.12_o your_o answer_n be_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o such_o as_o the_o context_n mention_n that_o trust_v in_o their_o wealth_n etc._n etc._n here_o than_o you_o have_v confute_v yourself_o because_o somewhat_o may_v be_v say_v of_o adam_n that_o do_v not_o concern_v every_o man_n therefore_o the_o sabbath_n may_v be_v make_v for_o man_n and_o yet_o not_o for_o every_o man_n here_o mr._n tillam_n do_v raise_v another_o argument_n instead_o of_o make_v good_a the_o former_a and_o therefore_o because_o that_o more_o be_v say_v to_o this_o argument_n afterward_o i_o shall_v omit_v to_o mention_v the_o new_a one_o either_o now_o or_o at_o any_o time_n hereafter_o till_o i_o have_v bring_v in_o first_o all_o that_o be_v say_v to_o the_o old_a for_o many_o time_n 〈◊〉_d urge_v new_a argument_n before_o the_o old_a one_o be_v finish_v and_o then_o be_v force_v to_o leave_v those_o new_a one_o to_o speak_v further_o to_o his_o old_a one_o again_o mr._n tillam_n i_o confess_v in_o the_o 49_o psalm_n the_o word_n adam_n be_v restrain_v but_o here_o in_o the_o 2_o of_o mark_v it_o be_v not_o mr._n ives_n well_o if_o it_o be_v restrain_v there_o then_o be_v not_o your_o argument_n good_a viz._n that_o whatever_o be_v say_v of_o man_n or_o adam_n be_v say_v of_o every_o man_n here_o mr._n gosnold_n desire_v to_o speak_v a_o word_n or_o two_o touch_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v in_o question_n and_o tell_v mr._n tillam_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o sign_n fie_o every_o man_n unless_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v join_v with_o it_o to_o this_o dr._n chamberlain_n reply_v that_o none_o be_v except_v from_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o join_v mr._n ives_n but_o mr._n tillam_n have_v confess_v some_o be_v except_v when_o he_o say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o psalm_n 49._o do_v signify_v only_o such_o man_n that_o trust_v in_o their_o wealth_n and_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o show_v that_o adam_n or_o man_n have_v a_o more_o universal_a signification_n the_o 2_o of_o mark_n then_o in_o psalm_n 49._o since_o the_o ●●rd_n by_o his_o own_o confession_n be_v the_o same_o but_o i_o further_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v frequent_a in_o ●●ripture_n to_o apply_v thing_n unto_o man_n w●en_o yet_o do_v not_o intend_v every_o man_n as_o first_o it_o be_v say_v gen_n 8.21_o i_o will_v no_o more_o curse_v the_o ground_n for_o man_n sake_n etc._n etc._n whenas_o noah_n and_o his_o family_n be_v exempt_v from_o the_o curse_n again_o deut._n 5_o 2d_o it_o be_v there_o say_v that_o god_n do_v talk_v with_o man_z use_v he_o live_v now_o here_o the_o word_n man_z be_v so_o fit_a from_o signify_v all_o man_n that_o it_o be_v restrain_v to_o those_o people_n that_o be_v assemble_v about_o the_o mountain_n which_o be_v so_o far_o from_o all_o that_o they_o be_v but_o a_o handful_n in_o comparison_n to_o the_o rest_n of_o mankind_n this_o appear_v further_a if_o we_o consider_v that_o say_n in_o the_o four_o of_o deut._n and_o compare_v it_o with_o the_o 5_o in_o the_o 5_o it_o be_v say_v that_o when_o god_n do_v give_v they_o the_o law_n he_o speak_v with_o man_n and_o he_o live_v that_o this_o be_v only_o the_o nation_n of_o israel_n deut._n 4.33_o tell_v we_o plain_o do_v ever_o people_n hear_v the_o voice_n of_o god_n out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o fire_n as_o thou_o