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A29432 A dissuasive from the errours of the time wherein the tenets of the principall sects, especially of the Independents, are drawn together in one map, for the most part in the words of their own authours, and their maine principles are examined by the touch-stone of the Holy Scriptures / by Robert Baylie ... Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662. 1645 (1645) Wing B456; ESTC R200539 238,349 276

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any_o other_o and_o to_o be_v cut_v off_o as_o wither_a branch_n the_o church_n can_v neither_o have_v in_o her_o power_n to_o defer_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n any_o long_o on_o hope_n of_o further_a trial_n because_o they_o have_v have_v already_o that_o trial_n which_o god_n allow_v it_o be_v a_o leaden_a rule_n to_o proceed_v to_o the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n with_o a_o leaden-heel_n when_o the_o sin_n be_v ripe_a ibid._n p._n 15._o which_o censure_v if_o the_o prince_n contemn_v he_o contemn_v they_o against_o his_o own_o soul_n and_o be_v thereupon_o by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n disfranchise_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o be_v deliver_v over_o to_o satan_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o offender_n hhhhh_o john_n inqui._n p._n 70._o we_o hold_v it_o antichristian_a to_o entertain_v or_o admit_v any_o appeal_n from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o the_o high_a ordain_v by_o the_o lord_n for_o all_o sinner_n be_v that_o church_n whereof_o the_o sinner_n be_v a_o member_n and_o therefore_o in_o urge_v our_o church_n to_o submit_v to_o another_o church_n they_o seek_v to_o draw_v it_o to_o antichristian_a bondage_n jiiii_n bar._n dis_n p._n 84._o i_o be_o persuade_v that_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v not_o to_o make_v permanent_a law_n of_o that_o the_o lord_n have_v leave_v in_o our_o liberty_n ibid._n p._n 255._o we_o approve_v all_o the_o law_n of_o god_n to_o be_v most_o holy_a and_o inviolable_a and_o all-sufficient_a both_o for_o church_n and_o commonwealth_n and_o the_o perfect_a instruction_n of_o every_o member_n and_o officer_n of_o the_o same_o in_o their_o several_a duty_n so_o that_o nothing_o be_v now_o leave_v to_o any_o mortal_a man_n of_o what_o high_a dignity_n and_o call_v so_o ever_o but_o to_o execute_v the_o will_n of_o god_n according_a to_o his_o word_n kkkkk_n bar._n disc_n p._n 108._o god_n will_v have_v his_o law_n and_o statute_n keep_v and_o not_o alter_v according_a to_o the_o state_n and_o policy_n of_o time_n for_o these_o law_n be_v make_v not_o for_o the_o jew_n estate_n as_o master_n calvin_n teach_v but_o for_o all_o mankind_n especial_o for_o all_o the_o israel_n of_o god_n from_o which_o law_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a in_o judgement_n to_o decline_v to_o the_o right_a hand_n or_o to_o the_o left_a by_o the_o neglect_n of_o these_o law_n the_o whole_a world_n overflow_v with_o sin_n ibid._n p._n 212._o in_o the_o commonwealth_n they_o have_v abrogate_a all_o god_n judicial_a law_n and_o cut_v they_o off_o at_o one_o blow_n as_o make_v for_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o the_o jew_n only_o as_o if_o god_n have_v no_o regard_n of_o the_o conversation_n of_o other_o christian_n or_o have_v leave_v the_o gentile_n in_o great_a liberty_n to_o make_v law_n and_o custom_n to_o themselves_o lllll._n ibid._n hereby_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o so_o many_o ungodly_a law_n be_v decree_v and_o the_o whole_a course_n of_o justice_n pervert_v that_o so_o many_o capital_a mischief_n as_o god_n punish_v by_o death_n such_o as_o blaspheme_v the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n open_a idolatry_n disobedience_n to_o parent_n be_v not_o by_o law_n punish_v at_o all_o incest_n and_o adultery_n be_v either_o pass_v over_o or_o punish_v by_o some_o light_n or_o trifle_a punishment_n ibid._n p._n 155._o the_o high-commission_n punish_v the_o most_o execrable_a idolatry_n but_o with_o prison_n or_o forfeiture_n make_v it_o a_o pecuniary_a matter_n contrary_a to_o god_n word_n mmmmm_n 1._o vide_fw-la hhhh_n mmmmm_n 2._o bar._n dis_n p._n 211._o theft_n if_o above_o thirteen_o penny_n be_v punish_v by_o death_n nnnnn_n bar._n dis_n p._n 55._o the_o university_n of_o oxford_n and_o cambridge_n have_v the_o same_o popish_a and_o idolatrous_a beginning_n with_o the_o college_n of_o monk_n friar_n and_o nun_n and_o these_o vermin_n have_v and_o still_o do_v retain_v the_o same_o insufferable_a and_o incurable_a abuse_n therefore_o queen_n elizabeth_n ought_v by_o good_a right_n to_o abolish_v they_o as_o her_o progenitor_n do_v the_o abbey_n ooooo_o ibid._n p._n 177._o they_o repair_v to_o the_o university_n to_o be_v instruct_v in_o heathen_a and_o vain_a art_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v not_o such_o heathenish_a and_o idolatrous_a custom_n they_o have_v no_o such_o profane_a art_n vain_a education_n and_o literature_n ibid._n p._n 56._o we_o find_v they_o all_o general_o the_o seed_n of_o vnbeleever_n nourish_v in_o all_o manner_n of_o profaneness_n heathenism_n vain_a and_o ungodly_a science_n their_o education_n from_o their_o cradle_n be_v ungodly_a in_o the_o common_a school_n where_o they_o must_v learn_v their_o greek_a and_o latin_a from_o lascivious_a poet_n or_o heathenish_a philosopher_n with_o this_o liquor_n be_v their_o pitcher_n at_o first_o season_v there_o be_v they_o train_v up_o in_o logic_n rhetoric_n and_o philosophy_n which_o learning_n they_o draw_v from_o aristotle_n cicero_n and_o such_o like_a there_o they_o learn_v to_o speak_v by_o art_n syllogism_n and_o trope_n idem_fw-la refut_n p._n 89._o this_o i_o dare_v affirm_v that_o from_o the_o book_n of_o god_n they_o never_o derive_v these_o their_o college_n school_n hall_n order_n and_o degree_n that_o i_o may_v not_o say_v art_n author_n exercise_n use_v of_o learning_n disputation_n commencement_n they_o fight_v with_o their_o school-learning_n vain_a art_n philosophy_n rhetoric_n logic_n against_o the_o truth_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n ppppp_n vide_fw-la supra_fw-la n_o o._n qqqqq_n vide_fw-la rrrrr_n 2._o rrrrr_n 1._o bar._n dis_n p._n 179._o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n the_o name_n and_o office_n of_o chancellor_n vice-chancelor_n dean_n of_o faculty_n master_n of_o college_n fellow_n beadel_n bursour_n and_o all_o their_o several_a statute_n and_o custom_n be_v strange_a as_o also_o their_o manner_n of_o degree_n dispute_v for_o their_o degree_n and_o order_n of_o teach_v neither_o have_v any_o such_o university_n college_n society_n 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