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A26161 An apology, or, Defence of the divine art of natural astrologie being an answer to a sermon preached in Cambridge, July 25, 1652. ... / written by the learned and ingenious mathematician, Mr. George Atwell ... ; and now published by a friend ... vvhose preface is hereunto annexed. Atwell, George. 1660 (1660) Wing A4162; ESTC R12316 23,708 69

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it yet he is but a man and subject to errour as well as others and one that divers good Divines will beg leave to dessent from in some of his tenents As first the unlawfulnesse of Cock-fightings and Dog-fightings Secondly that it is unlawful to buy an Almanack because if that saith grain will ●e dear it makes men trust in it and ●listruft God I can not deny but if ●ny shall doe so as to put any abso●ute confidence in an Almanack or ●igure they greatly sin because there ●s in them a possibility of errour for ●everal occasions before alledged so ●s there not in Gods word yet there may be a kind of trust I doubt not ●n some measure or perswasion at ●east of the truth of the Almanack or Figure by how much the more experience I have had of the truth of the ●ike or the same mans making before For suppose I owe 20 l. to be paid upon bond the first day of April to such a one as I am sure will ●tand upon the forefeiter but I have ● trusty Tenant that never failes me ●ut payes me 40 l. Rent the 25 or 26 of March at furthest will not any one rather trust to such a Tenant though there be a possibility of fail●ng as by thieves fire c rather then ●o borrow it elsewhere or sell commodities to lesse Neither can I think but according to Josephs example it is lawful in a plentiful time with the one to lay up against a time of scarcity The other of Mr. Perkins quoted by the said Rowland is concerning a rule used by some Astrologers concerning the time when the effects of an Eclipse begins which is this Observe at the middle of the Eclipse how far the Luminary eclipsed is distant from its rising and how long it continueth above the Horizon then reduce them into minutes and say by the golden Rule If the whole continuance of the Luminarie eclipsed give 365 dayes what shall its time from the rising give The time hereby found say some is the time of the beginning of the effects But Mr. Perkins there reckons many several Eclipses whose effects of his own knowledge began presently after the Eclipses Where note that we need no stronger witness to prove that Eclipses have their effects and that these effects are found by Astrology deny it they that can and for my part I am of his mind for the time of the beginning of the effects and so is Origanus and so is Mr. Wings Ephemeris Yet let me answer one objection more which is this Though in erecting of Figures you doe not work by the Devil yet they that come to you doe beleeve you doe I aske must I give over my calling of a Surveyor or Inginee● because some great Professors thinking because I could tell distances without measuring them that I wrought by the Devil and thereon moved me to either leave it or my profession of the Gospel for I was a scandal to it Or must our Saviour Christ give over casting out Devils because some thought he wrought by Beelzebub yet I would have none so bold to tell the effects of Eclipses or great conjunctions before they fall least they misse of the time when they will fall as Lilly did for as K●pler saith it is hard ●o hit Near the beginning of this letter I spake a word or two in commendation of Sr. Christopher Heydens Book and that I would fain see that answered It hath been mine hap very lately to see a Book coming under the name of one Vicars B. D. as if he were a Bachelor of Divinity But if that can be called an answer certainly it is so strange an answer that it gives me as little satisfaction as Rowland● book that promised in the beginning of it to answer Sr. Christopher in the end of it but he would first answer an other which by that time he had done answering him Mr. Finis called him away that he could never attend to answer him since Just so deale● Mr. Vicars he promiseth in his Title Page great matters but truly so far as I read which was more then ● quartern I may well say Parturiunt m●rtes nas●●tur ridiculu● inus Much is promised but nothing performed I read till I was weary stil● expecting some arguments tha● should either disproove the lawfulnesse of Astrology in general or a●●east something that Sir Christopher●ad defended But I found my expe●tation failed me for all that time ●o far was spent against Conjurers Witches Charmers Inchanters and ●uch as observe the flying of birds are ●uch as look into the River as if Sir Chr●s●opher had mainteined these ●hings I● you did it not to make the world believe so truly you have ●aken a great deale of paines but nihil ●d thumbum you may as well tax M●●es as Sir Christopher for these things Again you say you have known ●ome were such dunses in the Univer●ities that being fit for no learning hey then set upon Astrology that hey may have the Devils help in it ●hough you speak never so mystically ●et I have a sound witness even your ●wn conscience that you would make ●en believe Sr. Christopher to be such ● one I● he be not such a one why do ●ou speak it if he be such a one speak ●lain English a man may more easily ●e●end himself from a masty dog that flies at his face then from a little Whirpet that bites one by the heeles Truly Sir this is but backbiting at the best far unbeseeming the profession of a Divine neither is it the breach of the least Commandement though it were yet if you teach men so you are unfit for the kingdome o● God Besides this whether he be more in wealth or poor in gifts the Wise man tels you he that despiset● the poor reprocheth him that made him He could have made him wise and you foolish But what is this to the matter this is onely against the man Besides this How common a thing is it throughout your Book to call him My Gentleman My Gentleman Hath king James m●de him a Knight and will you degrade him and make him but a Gentleman Sir I am sure if I should call you so Would you not take it as ir●nically spoken and is this to fulfill the Royal Law of Liberty to doe as you would be done to Quod tibi fier● non vis ●lteri ne feceris But whether this will beare an action in the Court of Honour I leave to others to judg Non nostram inter vos tant●s componere late 's am sure it will beare an action in he high Court of Heaven But sure 〈◊〉 his shews that learned king king Iames that great enemy to Astrolo●ie whom you so boast of saw more ● him then Astrology though you ●ee it not otherwise he would never have made him a Knight for that he was so great an enemy to pretenders ●e did it after he had wrote his Book gainst Mr.
Chambers for the bookes ●ake as I believe rather that it was so for that I have seen king James●uoted in defence of Astrology whatsoever you say But here is ●othing yet against the matter Oney it argues a wrangling spirit and you know what the Apostle saith If any man lust to be contentious we have no such custome neither have the Churches of Christ for the wrath of man doth not accomplish the righteousness of God But a meek Spirit is a thing before God much set by Again that that hath any seeming shew to be against the matter you altogether desire to draw from a confession of approving that which neither he nor M●ses nor any honest Astrologer will approve of As concerning his Definition of Astrology he sets it down as he mainteins it you as the Chaldeans used it so that because you can pick no hole in his coat for his Astrology therefore you quarrel against the Chaldeans Astrology Go tell the Chaldeans of it what is that to Sr Christopher it argues a wrangling Spirit Again how often boiles that Crambe of yours concerning the prediction of the death of Henry II. king of France upon a certain day by a wound in his head by a Conjurer if a Conjurer what is that to Astrology But I pray how did Doctor Fox tell that Queen Mary died that very hour in England he being in Germany Or Mr. Brightman the downfall of the Bishops doe you think they did it by help of the Devil I confesse I have found it the rash judgement of some that if they see any excellency in any thing that their shallow reach cannot aprehend Because mount Taurus shadows the Bull of Lemnos though 20 miles off they would have it removed if they could But Sir still you charge Sir Christopher with other mens tenents I do not think that you can prove that ever he predicted the very day of any mans death if he did you might have done well to have quoted the Page and not put us to read all his Book and yet misse of it when we have done and you to mock us for our labour Yet we see Physicians do ●t sometimes though perhaps more ●y help of Astrology then any phy●ical notions If Hip●crates or Gallen ●ell you of such a thing you will not ●ay they work by the Devil but Sci●●tia nu●lum habet inimicum pr●ter ign●●ant●m yet this I will say it is posi●le out of a mans Nativity to give a ●hrewd conjecture of such a thing ●erhaps within a moneth or a week perhaps within a day why not ● same day Yea whether he shall● a violent death or no I pray Sir h●● you any skill in Astrology or not you have not then I say you kno● as little what you say as they did the condemne me for working by 〈◊〉 Divel for telling distances before had measured them yet they 〈◊〉 honest men too But if you have sk● you either got it by help of the Devi● as you say others doe or else by reading the Rules Aphoris●●es of ● as we doe Which if that be wor●ing by the Devil in us it is so in yo● also But if it be lawful to read 〈◊〉 Rules or else how shall you be ab● to confute them Sir if you wi● vouchsafe to take a little mo● paines I doubt not but yo● your se● shall easily be able to give a ver● neer conjecture of almost as great thing Then if you find the reaso● in the one you may doe it in the other And having done I pray the● tell me where lies the errour let the Question be how king Charles com● to be beheaded and that time 〈◊〉 January 30 1648 1649. He was born in Scotland Anno 1600 Nov. 19 hora 10 4′ p. m. latitudo loci 57 medium coeli is ♉ 37 the R. 17 13 oculus ♉ and the △ of ☽ being both in ♊ 4′ if you direct M. C. to them being both together and both signifying preferment especially oculus ♉ as you may see in the rules of directions the R. of oculus ♉ being 61 41. If thence you take the R. A. of M. C. 37. 13 the art of directions is 25. 28 which gives in time 25 years and somewhat more Likewise ☾ in 4. 29 of ♎ makes her △ dexter in 4 29 of ♊ the R. As thereof is 62. 30 whence take 37. 13 rests 25. 17 which is a little less then ocu ♉ but both are 25 years which added to 1600 the year of his birth being come to his kingdom Mar. 27 1625. And if you have skill as you pretend to have doth not the direction of M. C to the □ of ♃ tell you nothing of the difference between him and the Parliament Anno 1641. And can you gather nothing out of M. C. to the Sesquiquadrant of ♄ concerning the many battels fought in Anno 1643. And See more in the end of the Book Master Gaule of great Staugton in Huntingtonshire Rom. 11. 5 22 32. Rom 3. v. 23 24. ●●b 16 17. Rom. 6. 9 10.
a save deliverance both of woman and child and the woman mended quickly after If an Astrologer should commit such an errour it would be recorded against him to all posterity And whereas Wendeline objects that an Astrologer can not give a right judgment because he knowes ●ot the true number and nature of all the Stars I confesse indeed sometimes the most skilful of all misse both of Astrologers and Physicians But what shall Wendeline doe then that knoweth not what an aspect is or his master Picus But though men doe not know all the Stars and ●earbs now yet Adam knew all but ●n him we lost it we have still the ●parks we know now but in part so that God made them not in vain in respect of their significations Therefore I end this argument with this that like as in Phy●ick Art ●ut of the knowledge of causes signes ●nd effects ariseth the art both of ●udging foretelling many changes and alterations of mens bodies ●ea even of death it self yet this is ●onfest to be free from superstition because it is the meditation of the divine works so in this divining art ●udging by the position and nature of the Stars of the causes signes and effects what other is the consideration ●ereof then the beholding the divine works of God and therefore as worthy the name of an art free from all superstition as Physick without Astrology is and far more for Physick cannot well exist without Astrology but Astrology can without Physick Besides I wonder they should approve it in Hypocrates and condemn it in all others And whereas W●ndoline thinks he hath wonne Bullen or rather defended it against two or three of our breaches with his one bulwark this one distinction that the causes of all things either came by necessity or by contingency thinking thereby that because he knowes we maintain as litle necessity in them as himself therefore he would fain denie all influence and inclination of the Stars at all for my part I hold that the principal cause of all is God himself who sometimes indeed works alone by himself by stirring up principal motions in the minds of mens wherein the inclinations of the Stars have no place but proceed immediately from God such as in David who immediately was indued with singular courage and stirred up by Gods spirit to fight with Goliah A second cause is mans free will which either followes or resists the temperament of the body This free will of man should govern the Stars which both can and ought both by meditation invocation the fear of God and daily exercise bridle correct and take away invading evils and ingendred vices least that common song prove true Natura sequitur semina quisque suae So that we maintain no necessity that Nero Caligula or Anthony were compelled to commit their wicked acts but this we hold Fata mover● Deus tollere fata potest and that the will especially being holpen from above yea even its owne power may avoid many such inclinations of the Stars though it be seldome done A third cause is the Divel himself who doth often involve the wretched minds of men in this so great infirmitie in horid wickednesse And thus Nero's fury riseth not onely out 〈◊〉 his temperament but he also earnstl● affecting it and being in love wit● pleasures and covetousnesse is mor● and more instigated of the Devil and he himself forcing it forward● is become much worse then his ow● nature though otherwise bad enough of it self gave him to be And 〈◊〉 an innumerable company of men who together with the helpe of the Stars are of very good natures mos● horribly rush into such wickednesse whole facts and events are not to b● referred to coelestial causes and the will of man 25 Whether is it possible or whether is it lawful for one to tell of one that died this very hour 100 miles off This is not a foretelling but an● aftertelling but such a one as exceeds the common apprehension of man If you say it is impossible I proove it thus I teaching a School at Hitchi● in Hartfordshere about anno 16●4 where amongst others I teaching three of one Mr. Christopher Butler● children of Stapleford neer Hartford who inviting me to keep my Christmas with them I being there discour●ing with his wife a godly Gentlewoman she told me she was the famous Doctor Foxes grand-child that wrote the Book of Martyrs and withall told me this story of him that he being beyond Sea at the time of the death of Queen Mary as he was preaching about the midst of his Sermon he stood still a pretty while and paused in●omuch that the people marveiled by and by he stands up and utters these words My Brethren I can do no lesse then impart unto you what the Spirit of God hath now revealed to me that this very hour Queen Mary is dead in England and so it proved And further she told me of an old man then alive that heard him which thing I being there at Whit-suntide following meeting there with him he did constantly affirm And I fully beleeve Sr. Ken●elme Digby her neer kinsman can say more in it then I have done And thus much and a great deale more is recorded of him of the like kind in a Book intitled the lives of holy men of these latter times Now if you say that he did this by revelation our Church will condemn you for an Heritick If you say they are all deceived I ask why may not a few of you more easily be mistaken in point of Astrology then all of them in point of revelation Again if you say he did it by Astrology then you not onely confesse that you denied all this while that an Astrologer can not tell true Wendol●ne page 646 but it is either by some compact with the Divel or by his secret instinct whereon he quotes Aug. lib. 5. cap. 7 De civitat De● I say as much credit is to be given to Doctor Fox as to Augustin Dare you or Augustine either if he were living say Doctor Fox did it either by compact of the Devil surely if you say that he casts out Devils through Beelzebub we lesser punies must not take it a mis however you raile of us 26 What I pray you is becomge of Mercury when saw you him sure he is but an ill servant to you that will scarce be feen three times in a twelve moneth he alwayes hides himself that seldome or never he will hold the Caldle unto you yet I beleeve that is all the work you have to set him on other service he doth you little They count him a great Astronomer but I doubt he will scarce tell when begins Spring Summer Autumn or Winter nor when Sunday comes nor yet whether Easter-day will fall on the Sunday this year or no me thinks such a servant should be small ornament to your house and my thinks such idle Fellowes as will no wayes doe you good