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A62864 Anti-pædobaptism, or, The third part being a full review of the dispute concerning infant baptism : in which the arguments for infant baptism from the covenant and initial seal, infants visible church membership, antiquity of infant baptism are refelled [sic] : and the writings of Mr. Stephen Marshal, Mr. Richard Baxter ... and others are examined, and many points about the covenants, and seals and other truths of weight are handled / by John Tombes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1657 (1657) Wing T1800; ESTC R28882 1,260,695 1,095

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burgersdicius_n inst._n log_n l._n 2._o c._n 5._o keck_n syst._n log._n l._n 1._o part_n 2._o c._n 3._o and_o other_o scheibler_n top._n c._n 29._o n._n 36._o bound_n it_o with_o sundry_a caution_n and_o indeed_o we_o must_v cashier_v many_o receive_a division_n if_o that_o rule_n hold_v as_o e._n g._n in_o morality_n of_o good_a into_o honest_a pleasant_a and_o profitable_a in_o divinity_n of_o the_o law_n into_o moral_n ceremonial_a and_o judicial_a of_o the_o divine_a person_n into_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n into_o moses_n the_o prophet_n and_o the_o psalm_n and_o so_o blame_v christ_n himself_o what_o master_n sidenham_n infer_v so_o that_o it_o be_v most_o clear_a the_o word_n must_v be_v understand_v as_o they_o be_v translate_v be_v not_o deny_v by_o i_o and_o yet_o the_o word_n act_n 2.39_o as_o many_o as_o the_o lord_n our_o god_n shall_v call_v limit_v the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o v_o nor_o do_v i_o deny_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o conceive_v otherwise_o as_o if_o a_o jew_n because_o cast_v off_o be_v become_v a_o heathen_a or_o any_o gentile_a believer_n or_o his_o infant_n be_v or_o can_v be_v by_o believe_v and_o baptism_n any_o other_o than_o a_o heathen_a or_o a_o christian_a of_o the_o gentile_n do_v not_o still_o continue_v a_o heathen_a notwithstanding_o his_o christianity_n i_o do_v account_n mr._n rutherfurd_n and_o myself_o christian_n and_o yet_o heathen_n there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n in_o the_o text_n that_o warrant_v we_o to_o say_v of_o the_o child_n of_o the_o ingraff_v and_o call_v gentile_n that_o they_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n but_o what_o if_o the_o word_n be_v expound_v as_o mr._n rutherfurd_n do_v of_o the_o whole_a visible_a body_n of_o the_o nation_n will_v allow_v the_o baptise_v of_o infidel_n abraham_n child_n be_v never_o take_v into_o covenant-fellowship_n universal_o abraham_n be_v indeed_o a_o moral_n not_o a_o physical_a root_n yet_o not_o as_o a_o believe_a 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