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A71279 A compendious discourse on the Eucharist with two appendixes. R. H., 1609-1678. 1688 (1688) Wing W3440A; ESTC R22619 186,755 234

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mouth_n of_o the_o sepulchre_n and_o his_o entrance_n into_o the_o room_n the_o door_n be_v shut_v and_o beside_o censure_n st._n paul_n spiritual_a body_n as_o absurd_a can_v our_o lord_n body_n rise_v from_o the_o grave_a through_o a_o stone_n and_o enter_v a_o close_a room_n ad_fw-la modum_fw-la corporis_fw-la if_o not_o than_o this_o answerer_n must_v either_o retract_v this_o passage_n as_o a_o affront_n to_o faith_n or_o socinian-like_a reject_v the_o scripture_n testify_v this_o because_o absurd_a to_o his_o low_a and_o impure_a conception_n but_o if_o it_o can_v and_o do_v then_o where_o be_v our_o minister_n and_o his_o vain_a philosophy_n if_o he_o have_v know_v some_o admit_v the_o supposition_n that_o our_o lord_n body_n may_v be_v present_a and_o not_o after_o the_o ordinary_a sensible_a manner_n of_o corporal_a presence_n and_o yet_o resolve_v against_o adoration_n of_o it_o such_o oppose_v what_o this_o man_n concede_v in_o the_o first_o supposition_n unless_o he_o grant_v adoration_n due_a to_o the_o corporeal_a manner_n of_o christ_n presence_n and_o not_o to_o christ_n himself_o pag._n 88_o l._n 13._o i_o presume_v it_o be_v then_o in_o the_o time_n of_o popery_n for_o since_o the_o reformation_n i_o have_v show_v before_o that_o she_o always_o hold_v the_o contrary_a viz._n that_o our_o lord_n presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v not_o adorable_a in_o the_o most_o flourish_a protestant_a time_n a_o adorable_a presence_n be_v believe_v and_o profess_v by_o bishop_n andrews_n depute_v by_o the_o head_n of_o the_o english_a church_n to_o declare_v her_o sentiment_n in_o this_o matter_n he_o be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v consider_v as_o a_o private_a doctor_n or_o bishop_n but_o as_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o church_n and_o presume_v to_o know_v and_o neither_o to_o falsify_v nor_o oppose_v her_o doctrine_n or_o practice_n how_o come_v this_o man_n to_o more_o skill_n and_o authority_n in_o expound_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o 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to_o his_o soul_n and_o divinity_n our_o dispute_n then_o with_o this_o minister_n be_v about_o the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n himself_o if_o about_o the_o adoration_n of_o his_o flesh_n unless_o his_o nature_n and_o person_n be_v separable_a pag._n 89._o l._n 17._o but_o be_v he_o sure_a the_o bishop_n mean_v so_o i._n e._n that_o bishop_n taylor_n mean_v we_o worship_v the_o body_n or_o flesh_n of_o christ_n yes_o he_o be_v sure_a that_o author_n mean_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n 1._o because_o the_o same_o bishop_n real_a pres_n p._n 144._o say_v we_o worship_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n exhibit_v it_o to_o our_o soul_n 2._o because_o the_o action_n itself_o be_v not_o adorable_a the_o word_n than_o must_v either_o intend_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n or_o what_o do_v they_o signify_v what_o be_v it_o the_o bishop_n worship_v in_o the_o venerable_a usage_n of_o the_o sign_n not_o the_o sign_n yet_o divine_a honour_n be_v give_v give_v then_o either_o to_o nothing_o or_o to_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n 3._o because_o the_o bishop_n be_v consider_v st._n ambrose_n testimony_n for_o adore_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n and_o wave_v the_o usual_a refuge_n of_o the_o testimony_n be_v spurious_a or_o a_o rhetorical_a flight_n etc._n etc._n he_o acknowledge_v that_o his_o party_n worship_v as_o st._n ambrose_n do_v certain_o then_o they_o have_v the_o same_o object_n pay_v the_o same_o service_n and_o at_o the_o like_a solemn_a occasion_n i._n e._n sovereign_a adoration_n to_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n for_o this_o st._n ambrose_n undoubted_o perform_v and_o what_o if_o this_o bishop_n according_a to_o his_o native_a constancy_n in_o another_o book_n recede_v from_o this_o be_v it_o therefore_o none_o of_o his_o thought_n when_o this_o be_v write_v can_v his_o dictating_a contrary_n elsewhere_o alter_v the_o sense_n of_o what_o be_v say_v long_o before_o pag._n 90._o l._n 6._o since_o i_o have_v read_v of_o a_o protestant_a minister_n etc._n etc._n very_o faithful_o translate_v the_o minister_n be_v permit_v say_v the_o answerer_n to_o exercise_v the_o function_n of_o his_o ministry_n as_o before_o it_o be_v false_a say_v the_o margin_n he_o be_v not_o to_o preach_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o true_a church_n nor_o to_o celebrate_v the_o supper_n thus_o the_o man_n margin_n confute_v his_o text_n and_o his_o translation_n quarrel_n with_o the_o original_a ibid._n l._n 17._o as_o for_o bishop_n forbes_n and_o the_o archbishop_n of_o spalleto_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v wonder_v if_o man_n that_o have_v entertain_v the_o design_n of_o reconcile_a all_o party_n be_v force_v to_o strain_v sometime_o a_o little_a further_o than_o be_v fit_a etc._n etc._n a_o answer_n very_o solid_a and_o very_a charitable_a for_o first_o be_v not_o this_o a_o concession_n that_o these_o protestant_a bishop_n allow_v adoration_n
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