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J.F.'s reply unto Thomas Crisp's rapsody of lies, slanders and defamations of J.F. and R.R. &c. entituled, The fifth part of Babel builders, &c.
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Field, John, 1652-1723.
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to T. C. which is The foolish Woman she is clamorous she is simple and knoweth nothing and if T. C. knoweth any thing as he ought to know he practiceth little thereof in his Scribble against Friends which also brings to my remembrance the saying of the Prophet to the sottish Children They are wise to do evil but to do good they have no knowledge And in the 12 page saith T. C J. F. saies A Remnant are taught not to buy or receive any of these mens corrupt Doctrines viz. Books hereby insinuating Friends should not read what was writ in detection of them c. To which I Answer I did and do say that God hath so preserved a Remnant in his fear that from him they have received wisdom and thereby are taught not to buy or receive any of these mens corrupt words and false Doctrines but I did not say Books that 's a piece of Forgery or something like it of T. C's to annex Books which when he hath slyly foisted in he saith Therefore if you will try all things and see for your selves and not give up all to them then you are not of one mind and so not of the faithful c. and charges us with Impudence Answ Well it 's said The wicked worketh a deceitful work and I shall leave my Reader to judge whether T. C. hath not so done herein by adding the word Books and then like a man fighting with his shaddow or one that Beats the Air he talks or writes but it 's like had he not stuffed in or added that word he would have wanted matter to have quarrelled with but at adding and patching curtailing transposing and mangling and mischievously misplacing he is more ready than honest see his Collection of Testimonies and call'd the third Edition delivered at Grace-Church-street the 26th of the Fifth Month 82. in his 11 page where he cites E. B's Works and how grosly he abuses him let the Reader see and judge by taking a few words in one place viz. the 852. p. and leaving off at a Comma and then go back thirteen or fourteen lines and begin at a Semicolon and leave off at a Semicolon and then go forward about 63 pages in Folio to the 889. and takes a few lines more and then back again about 215 page to 594. and all to patch something together to make it speak as he would have it by all which he manifest himself to be notwithstanding his pretences in that Spirit the Jews were in that cryed up the Prophets garnished their Sepulchers and shew him that was the Life of the Prophets so T. C. cryes up J. P. E. B. c. and is in that Spirit that would murder the Life that was in them and is now in and among Friends But I thought not to have spent so much time about his Railing Book neither have I taken notice of all I justly might nor particularly Answered to all them Assertions as he falsly calls false but leave them to the unprejudiced with the Truth and Spirit of it to Judge who all them Names he calls me and R. R. if rightly applyed belong to And lastly observe in his last page he seems to Apologize as it conscious to himself for his harsh or sharp Writing and Expressions c. and saith They are our Weapons and ground at our Grindstone and sharpened by our selves and as uneasie as Saul 's Armour to David and no more delightful to him than a Wife and Children of Fornication c. To all which I in short Answer If it was true that they were ours as it 's false it might mitigate his fault but let him prove if he can we ever call'd him the Names aforesaid Mercinary Reformado's Inquisitor Black Guard of Lyars and many more and therefore I advise him to do by this Old man with his evil deeds of Lying c. As David did by Saul's Armour also no longer to delight in a Wife and Children of Fornication c. For the Lord hath determined to Plague her Whose Cup is full of Abomination and Filthiness of Fornication and to dash her Children and Bratts against that Stone which many now are stumbling at for Babylon is fallen is fallen and is become the habitation of Devils and the hold of every foul Spirit and Cage of every unclean and hateful Bird Rev. 18.2 Yea her Plagues shall come in one day death and mourning and famine and she shall be utterly burnt with fire therefore the voice from Heaven is come out of her my People that ye be not partakers of her sins and that ye receive not of her Plagues for her sins hath reached unto Heaven and God hath remembred her Iniquities and therefore wo be unto all Babel builders for strong is the Lord that judgeth her who will not regard the weeping the Mourning nor Lamentation of her Merchants because no man buyeth her Merchandize any more And Thomas I understand thy Books were given away at the Meeting-house-doors at Bull and Mouth the 14th of the 5th Month 1682. which to me is one proof more of thy great Enmity as well as Folly in so publickly manifesting thy Belying and Slandering c. of me and Friends So that in the words of the Prophet I may conclude Jer. 2.19 Thine own wickedness shall correct thee and thy back-slidings and Lyes c. shall reprove thee know therefore and see that it 's an evil thing and bitter that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God and that my fear is not in thee saith the Lord God of Hosts Thou mayst take this at present as an Answer to thy Railing Book from thy Belyed and Slandered Friend J. Feild Junior THE END
of Gods unity is in the eternal Spirit I shall here shew that the Apostles exhorted the Corinthians to be of the same mind and Judgment though T. C. saith It seems contrary to the Scripture and quotes Rom. 14.5 c. as if the Apostles contradicted himself which would be wicked to Assert or insinuate Now the 1 Cor. 10. it s said Now I beseech you Brethren by the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that ye all speak the same thing and that there be no Divisions or Schisms among you but that ye be perfectly joyned together in the same mind and in the same Judgment And Rom. 15.5 6. the Apostle said Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be like minded one towards another according to Christ Jesus or after the Example of him who did wear the seamless Coat That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorifie God even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ see 1 Cor. 12.12 13 14 25. yea the whole Chapter I think I may say if thou was not a Novice as thou termest me in the Scripture thou would never have made such a noise as thou hast about this Position but I shall leave my Reader to judge whether thou art one of them that thinks to be heard for thy much babling c. or whether for this Doctrine thus agreeing with Scripture and own'd by T. C. I have proved my self like the wicked Atheist a Lyar wicked and false Accusers and proud Boaster or T. C. Another Lie in the 18 pag. thou chargest me with is for saying Thou pratest against the Truth But if all what thou hast writ be true I might acknowledge it so but it s not therefore remember a false Witness shall not be unpunished and he that speaketh Lies shall perish so read thy portion if thou repent not For the prating Fool shall fall said Solomon And Thomas I will assure thee it 's not thy thinking this or that that 's any proof tho' it 's thy practice in several Pages of thy Book so to say as rich as thou art thy word will not be taken herein I doubt thou art a little pufft up in thy mind with the conceit of thy Riches well remember it s said It makes it self wings and flies away and therefore do not because of it assume to tell my meaning and what I think as in the 13 page c. for that thou knowest not and therefore in so saying thou assumes God's Prerogative who according to Amos 4. last shews what the thoughts are and manifestest thy self a Lyar as well as Conceited I don't say like Irish as thou speaks of page 12. And in thy 4th Ba. p. 12. thou saist I judge not nor condemn any person for their Judgment and practice that differs from me that is not a breach of the Revealed Will of God and have often certified as much Then pray prove my Doctrine viz. that Friends Unity viz. faithful ones is in that eternal Spirit that leads all them that are faithful thereunto to be of one mind prove I say this contrary to the Revealed Will of God if thou canst and if their Unity is in it as thou ownest then they are one in it c. if it be not thus proved the contrary by the Revealed Will of God without thy thinkings and say-so's for alas that won't do indeed Tho. it wont also prove that the names thou call'st me and R.R. thy scoffing Lies and Raylery in thy Book is according to the Revealed Will of God which if it be the Scripture thou call'st the Revealed Will of God pray let me have Chapter and Verse as thou saist p. 8. and as also F. Bugg in his confused Book well Thomas don't think I have here pickt out all thy Lies Slanders Nick-names c. in thy Rabble of Railery thou callst Babels Builders c. no no for I question whether all the Paper I have here writ will hold them but if thou persist may be I may give a Catalogue of them But thy Tongue to me doth not appear to be that which is said to be a Tree of Life but rather to be set on fire of Hell So I think I may conclude and say with Solomon A poor man is better than a Lyar and he that hath a froward heart findeth no good and he that hath a perverse Tongue falleth into mischief yea the fools lips enter into contention and his mouth calleth for strokes So Thomas do thou make right application hereof And take a large measure or quantity of unfeigned Repentance Humility and the fear of the Lord and lie still therein until thou hast felt the righteous Judgments of God brought forth into victory over that Conceitedness Pride and Wrath which hath so much filled thy heart that it hath bred as I may say an evil disease that sticks fast unto thy Soul yea and the very Scab of Contention and if this means the Lord inclines thy heart unto thou maist thereby obtain Cure Which that thou maist is my real desire if it be God's Will for I find through the goodness of the Lord the Spirit of forgiveness in my Heart towards thee But if you still remain angry I am of Solomon's mind who saith Make no Friendship with an Angry man and with a furious man thou shalt not go And Thomas thou saist pag. 9. something about my having a high conceit of my self for which thou saist thou seest no cause for it except it 's my high living at where saist thou I think thou hast no cause to complain of thy high Rent Well Thomas I perceive thou makest the Proverb good That every Fool will be meddling tho' this concerns thee not but I would have thee know that I have and do as honestly pay my Rent as thee and for ought I know thy dwelling and mine considered as much as thou dost Well Dust it 's said is the Serpents meat who creeps upon his Belly and makes his Followers Back-biters Lyars and Creepers like himself and his Children loves the same meat and as greedily feed thereof when they get it as is manifested by thy collecting the Letters of divers persons names in thy fourth Page which if true manifest thy self to be one of cursed Ham's brood c. And I observe that thou maliciously speaks in thy 5 page of some That have been guilty of evil words and actions and yet have been owned as God's faithful Servants and in the Power of God and adds our Vnity is in forms Answ Observe his words have been But I affirm no person in the eternal power of God can be found in evil words and actions neither can those that are therein have Unity with such for all that goes into evil words and actions goes from the power of God and are by the same power Judged and Condemned and them that keep in the eternal power of God cannot have Unity with them therein but if any have gone from the power