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A32898	An old apostate justly exposed his treachery to the Holy God, his truth and people manifested, his great wickedness and uncleanness (which, by false covers, he has endeavoured to hide) laid open to the shame of him, and all his abettors : in a short answer, or some brief remarks, upon a very scandalous book lately published, stiled, The spirit of Quakerism, and the danger of their divine revelation laid open, subscribed, Henry Winder : also the nameless publisher therof, as justly reprehended for his enmity and great malice, in abusing an innocent people, by heaps of most gross lies, slanders, base insinuations and inferences, frothy and scurrilous scoffs and taunts, so void of Christianity, that probably no man, with a name, would undertake / by Thomas Camm.	Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707.	1698 (1698)	Wing C396; ESTC R21826	31,372	63

AN Old APOSTATE Justly Exposed His Treachery to the Holy God his Truth and People MANIFESTED His great Wickedness and Uncleanness which by False Covers he has Endeavoured to hide laid open to the Shame of him and all his Abettors In a short Answer or some Brief Remarks upon a very Scandalous Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Henry Winder ALSO The Nameless Publisher thereof as justly Reprehended for his Enmity and great Malice in Abusing an Innocent People by heaps of most Gross Lies Slanders Base Insinuations and Inferences Frothy and Scurrilous Scoffs and Taunts so void of Christianity that probably no Man with a Name would Undertake By THOMAS CAMM London Printed and Sold by T. Sowle next Door to the Meeting-house in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-street and at the Bible in Leaden-hall-street near the Market 1698. The Dog is turned to his own vomit again and the Sow that was washed to her wallowing in the Mire 2. Pet. 2.22 They went out from us but they were not of us c. John 2.19 Raging Waves of the Sea foaming out their own Shame c. Jude 13. Behold he Travelleth with Iniquity and hath conceived Mischief and brought forth Falshood he made a Pit and digged it and is fallen into the Ditch which he made his Mischief shall return upon his own Head and his Violent Dealing shall come down upon his own Pate Psal 7.14 15 16. THE PREFACE TO THE Impartial Reader IF thou hast Seen or Read a Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Hen. Winder then be pleased to suspend giving Judgment upon the Matter thereof until thou hast Read and duly Considered the Contents of what follows being a short Answer or some brief Remarks upon the most material Passages in that Book Levelled against the Truth and those People commonly called Quakers Remember what the Wise Man saith viz. He that is first in his own Cause seemeth Just but his Neighbour cometh and searcheth him If thou judge that I have been close upon the Author and have exposed him to publick view consider that he has been the occasion And what is written in Holy Scripture must be fulfilled viz. The Wickedness of the Wicked must return upon his own Head and he that hides his Sins cannot Prosper I confess I was Astonished to see the Subscriber before named grown so Impudent Hard since I had some small knowledge of him many Years past while he seemed to be of us and before he fell into such gross Vncleanness And have seen yea having by me several of his Confessions and Acknowledgments not only of his great Sins and Transgressions but also to the Truth and Way thereof and that the Quakers are the People that walk therein I say I was Astonished to see the Man now grown so Seared as to give himself the Lie and appear in Print against the Truth and Innocent People thereof with that Inconsiderateness and Fury which manifests him to be one of them Evil Men who grows worse and worse and to have entertained again that Evil Spirit that was in some measure once cast out and with him seven times worse which makes his latter end much worse than his beginning I shall not take notice of all his long Narrative but such as chiefly Reflects upon the Truth and People of God called Quakers My Intent and Aim being to Vndeceive or Inform them who have believed his False Reports and Deceitful Slanderous Insinuations against the Truth and Principle thereof which we Profess As also to Detect his false Pretences in his going from Truth and Vs and deserting that Profession that once he made thereof with us by demonstrating the True Cause thereof neither shall I Justifie the Three Women in any thing wherein they missed the Line of Truth which to his Conscience is known we never owned them in though he would now being filled with Enmity Falsly Insinuate we did in order to Prejudice the Minds of People against that Way of Truth from which he is now fallen through Sin and Wickedness And for a Cover thereto as also to gratifie such amongst them with whom he is now joyned as Lusts to be Envious and whose Fingers Itches to be at their old Work of Persecution being angry at the Liberty we now through God's Great Mercy enjoy as to our Religious Duties from the present Government for which we desire ever to be Thankful in all Grateful Acknowledgments How aptly what follows doth answer to what is before proposed I leave to thee Impartial Reader to Judge Recommending thee to the Guidance of the Vnerring Spirit that gives a good Vnderstanding and Leads into all Truth And that thou and all Men might come under the Guidance and Government thereof is the Earnest Desire of him who wisheth Good to all Men. Thomas Camm AN Old Apostate Justly Exposed c. Hen. Winder WILL not thy own Back-sliding Correct thee and is it not a Dreadful Thing that thou should so far harden thy Heart against God and the Convictions of his Spirit in thy own Conscience for thy great and manifold Sins so as to grow as Evil Men always do worse and worse making Shipwrack of Faith and a Good Conscience being Seared as with an Hot Iron to the fulfilling the Testimony of Holy Scripture upon thee viz. Because Judgment from God has not been speedily Executed thy heart has been more set to do Evil Thy Book if it be thine as by thee Subscribed and as I hear in part owned to be so I have seen read and considered of and find thy Enmity great and thy said Book chiefly bent against the Truth and People called Quakers and to Expose an Innocent People to the Fury and Scorn of Malicious Men such as the nameless Publisher thereof For if thou had bent thy self only against those thou names as Injurers of thee since they missed in their Management in that they Charge thee with whether all true or not we leave to him who knows all things and is the Searcher of all Hearts yet I should not have concerned my self on this wise but finding that through their Sides thou endeavourest to strike at Truth against which thou cannot prevail and the Principle thereof born Testimony unto by those Innocent People called Quakers I proceed to take notice of thy Book as followeth First thy Title is The Spirit of Quakerism An old Nickname more beseeming one that had never born the name of a Quaker than thee that once did and to what follows viz. The danger of their Divine Revelation c. Divine Revelation the Quakers own it 's Scripture Doctrine without it none can come to the True and Saving Knowledge of the Only True God and his Son Jesus Christ whom he hath sent whom to know is Life Eternal For it 's the Testimony of Holy Scripture That no Man knows the Father

But that all Men as well as those called Quakers are as Men liable to err if they forsake the Conduct of that Eternal Uunchangeable Uunerring Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth and is able to preserve out of all Error which these Men our Opposers slights and reviles 3. Cursed pretence to Divine Inspiration the strongest Hold of the Devil Answ Let him keep his cursed Pretence to himself Divine Inspiration we experience the Inspiration of the Almighty with the Effects thereof blessed be God according to Scripture To call which the strongest Hold of the Devil is not only a Lye but Blasphemy 4. Who knew all this Story 23 Years ago and should have disclaimed the Actors but did not c. Answ All the Story of H. W's as in his Book was never known before written nor could be because many things therein inserted were not true being Stuff added to amuse the Reader and abuse the Quakers It 's evident before that what was to be disclaimed was then done and in Testimony thereof tho' it discover his Enmity and Contradictions he has made some Acknowledgment in Page 24. viz. Some Friends who at the first Assizes persuaded the Women to do him Right by Confessing c. Next I shall repeat a whole heap of Lyes and Slanders which as he says he takes out of what he calls A further Essay by a learned peaceable compassionate Friend of ours wherein he saith He proves c. But I say Is not yet proved nor can be 5. From their many Impertinences and Nonsence in their Books which cannot without Blasphemy be attributed to the Holy Spirit 6. From the many flat Contradictions of one inspired Pretender unto another especially their Women 7. Their scurrilous Railing at their best Opposers 8. Their apparent Contradictions to plain Scripture 9. Miserable Perversions and gross Misinterpretations of Scripture 10. Their Noval Opinions not heard of before in the Church of Christ 11. The allowed Novelty of their Sect having no pretence to Succession 12. Their many Doctrines calculated to serve Popery instanced in Nine Heads of Doctrine wherein they agree with Papists against Scripture 13. Notorious Possessions and Witchcrafts 14. Many gross Blasphemies uttered by those so Inspired 15. VVallowing in gross unnatural Sins 16. VVild Attempts of long Fasting and Miracles 17. Contradiction to all other good Christians All which before-said I take out of less than two Leaves of the Preface to the Book aforesaid enough if there were no more for this nameless Publisher and him he calls our Learned Peaceable Compassionate Friend turning them all back as gross Lyes and impudent Slanders For which he that sits in Heaven will rebuke them And tho' the Publisher have Rabshacah like opened his Mouth wide against the Lord and his innocent People yet I shall in the Name and on Behalf of that People tell him his evil Design will be frustrated and his Eyes grow dim and Heart fail before he can ever prove what he hath wrongfully charged And I shall farther Answer them in the Words of Israel's God through his Servant Isaiah Chap. 37. Ver. 22 23. viz. This is the word which the Lord hath spoken concerning him The Virgin the Daughter of Zion hath despised thee and laughed thee to scorn the Daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head against thee Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed And against whom hast thou exalted thy Voice and lifted up thine Eyes on high Even against the Holy One of Israel 18. In Page 23. A strange Story this is Reader indeed and beyond the Power even of Quakers Impudency to deny since it was so long transacting so many Friends concerned in it c. Answ I say it is the Publisher's Impudency to cast upon the Quakers and a great Lye to say so many Friends were concerned it 19. In Page 28. What think of you these dear Sisters true Quakers they were and owned as such to the last Answ I say It 's not only a filthy Taunt but a shameful Lye 20. In Page 28. How many Christ's and Saviours will this People at length produce 21. In the same Page mentioning the Terms and Way of his meaning Christ's saving viz. They must value his Blood and submit to the Rule of his Word But the Quakers saith he like not such Terms therefore will have a Second meaning Christ or a Saviour 22. In same Page he saith Now shall we marvel that Quakers offer us a new Creed or Christianity and scorn our old Bible 23. Again in the same Page When their Spirit says we must have a Second Saviour a Carnal One too and who is within none but a single VVoman 24. Again in the same Page he saith VVas a fit Brother for their Christ within c. 25. In the same 28th Page he saith Is this all No we have more Christs among them c. See now Reader what heaps of Lyes this obscure railing Man belcheth forth to his shame And tho' he hide himself from Men by concealing his Name the Righteous God will find him out to Reward him according to his Works I deny them all as impudent Lyes But to proceed 26. In Page 32 he saith Then your Spirit Fancy or Flatus is your Supreme Rule c. Answ I say A horrid Lye and Slander That Spirit which leads into all Truth is that which we have always owned to be our Supreme Rule which if he had been led by would not have uttered so many Lyes and Slanders which manifests him to be of his Father the Devil who was a Lyer from the beginning 27. In Page 34 he faith So G. F. had the Humility to receive Adoration and VVorship c. Which I say is also another of his gross Lyes upon the Dead 28. In Page 35 he faith VVill G. F. deny it VVho declared himself equal with God and received VVorship c. I say It 's also another impudent Lye cast upon the Dead Let him prove what he charges 29. Again in same Page he saith As their meaning the Quakers Infallibility consists with Lyes and Self-Contradiction so can their Perfection stand with most abominable VVickedness c. Answ I say His Slander herein is abominable The Infallibility of the Eternal Spirit of Truth admits of no Lye nor Contradiction neither can abominable Wickedness stand with the Perfection that is the Product or Work of the Holy Ghost or Spirit in all true Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ And we cannot but bear Testimony against abominable Wickedness and all such as wallow therein as H. W. and other Apostates which makes them and this their obscure Publisher so grievous Angry to load us with so many Calumnies 30. In Page 37 he saith That Jesus descibed in Scripture was to seal up Vision and Prophecy Dan 9.24 Or to give such perfect discovery of God's Counsel and Will to the World that the Spirits extraordinary Gifts of Illumination should be no more necessary nor continued But the Quakers by

especially Prayer not knowing a right Understanding how to Pray but by the Assistance and Help thereof which made the Apostle conclude he would Pray with the Spirit and with Vnderstanding And so do we and not a Jogg of our own Spirit as he scoffingly saith 38. In Page 48 He has another fling at Revelation viz. Your Speakers c. Alledging they know not who shall Speak until the Spirit moves in that very Hour of the Assembly nor what shall be spoken A Conceit says he who has many idle ones in his Head that has often made me smile when I have been told a Week before-hand by your selves That such a Man will at such a Day speak at such Place Answ Belike he dare not rely upon the Spirit but must be studying and taking Thought before-hand Howbeit I challenge him to name which of Us and at what Time and Place so told him as aforesaid For I deny it as a Lye as he lays it down invented by him in order to Abuse Us and make way for a frothy Scoff 39. In the same Page viz. Since so many have meaning the Quakers undertaken to justifie that impudent Contradiction to the God of Order and to baffle those two plain Texts 1 Cor. 14.34 35. 1 Tim. 2.11 12. Answ I deny his Charge as Impudent calls on him for his Name and the Proof he is able to make as for the two Texts before and the Matter that relates thereto I refer to a small Treatise thereof printed in the Year 1684 the 10th Month Intituled A Testimony to the fulfilling the Promise of God relating to such Women c. Subscribed by T. C. Also to R. B's Appology with several other of our Friends Books 40. In Page 49 he saith For God's Book has no Place nor Honour in your Assemblies nor do your Teachers submit themselves or Doctrine to that Judge c. Answ If by God's Book he means the Holy Scriptures I deny his Charge For our Teachers as he calls them whom we own do Love and Honour Holy Scriptures and submit their Doctrine to be proved and tried thereby as many Thousands can Witness against this shameless Man Thus having gone through his Work I charge him with 40 most gross Lyes and great Slanders some of which are double some triple others fourfold folded up one in another which may perhaps double the Number besides what I have passed by and looked over as of less moment or in some degree related to what I have above taken Notice of which I leave with him as a Mark of Infamy upon him till he appear like a Man and quit himself thereof or else repent of his Wickedness therein and shall proceed to take Notice of some of his Contradictions and base Inferences referring to other Things and not before touched relating to the South to the Answer before-mentioned by B. C. And as to what he falsly alledgeth to be the Reason of H. W's Conversion as he calls it I refer to what 's before-said to H. W's Book and shall only take some Notice of some of his Contradictions Contradictions 1. THE Title of the said Book of H. W's is The Spirit of Quakerism c. And again towards the end of the Preface thus viz. Such as need to be further acquainted with the very Heart of Quakerism compared with Page 31. viz. And thus it comes to pass that we never know nor ever shall know what is the Doctrine of Quakerism I say Can the Spirit and Heart of Quakerism be known and yet not the Doctrine Or can he tell what that is he knoweth not 2. In Page 39 he saith The Scripture and Quakerism are mutual Enemies What Enememies and yet Mutual Oh strange What are they Mutual Enemies to the Devil and such Lyars as he Let him then consider what he is an Enemy to Yet in Page 31. The Doctrine of Quakerism we never know nor shall know I say Then how knows he that the Scripture and Quakerism are Mutual Enemies 3. Again Page 43. viz. It was a just use of his Reason and Consideration guided by Scripture that represented Quakerism to him c. Compared with Page 31 aforesaid We never know nor shall know what the Doctrine of Quakerism is 4. In Page 23. he saith The Devil himself who one would think is ordinarily one of their Friends seems here to have owed them a Spight For the Devil to be a Friend and yet to owe us Spight are contraries We deny the Devil to be our Friend let him take him who is the Father of Lyes and Liars This Libeller grants the Devil has long owed us a Spight and still doth Oh! how familiar he is with him He knows his Mind And that makes him thus to traduce us and run into gross Contradictions 5. Again Page 24. viz. I freely declare if any of you sincerely value Scripture Light and Rule and do not adhere to the guidance of this mad Spirit this Story intends not to accuse you Now I say if he holds here he has cleared all the Quakers in general except such as are guided or adheres to be guided by a mad Spirit and all such the Quakers have and do deny to be of them But that 's not pleasing to him to know or hear of It 's through their sides that he would strike at the Quakers that are clear and that he seems so freely to declare the Story intends not to Accuse yet in the very next Page contradicts himself viz. What think you of the three dear Sisters True Quakers they were and owned as such to the last But what Spirit what Wild-Fire is this that they and you have chosen for your Guide c. Mark they and you they Quakers here he writes in general and makes no exception as before So that he 's an uncertain Body will not hold to what he pretends to 6. But hear him again in the same Page viz. I will not be so Quaker like as to censure a Multitude for ought whereof I can find tollerable Proof that most are Innocent c. Answ To let pass his Scoff of Quaker-like it 's evident through his whole Work that he has sencured Thousands a Multitude that never heard hereof before The which one would have thought might have been sufficient Proof as to their Innocency if he had been just and honest in what he says and no doubt would especially inasmuch as he has no Proof at least produceth none that any owned the Three whom he scoffingly calls dear Sisters in their endeavouring Prosecution of Law against H. W. c. Only after several Essays and Onsets amounts to mention one by Name to wit J. S. long since in his Grave who from the knowledge I had of him and being charged only by such unjust Persons that has most notoriously abused both dead and living shall not believe it till proved And if this one single Person had been guilty as charged which I do not grant yet who besides a