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A56384 A defence and continuation of the ecclesiastical politie by way of letter to a friend in London : together with a letter from the author of The friendly debate. Parker, Samuel, 1640-1688.; Patrick, Simon, 1626-1707. Friendly debate. 1671 (1671) Wing P457; ESTC R22456 313,100 770

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