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A32898	An old apostate justly exposed his treachery to the Holy God, his truth and people manifested, his great wickedness and uncleanness (which, by false covers, he has endeavoured to hide) laid open to the shame of him, and all his abettors : in a short answer, or some brief remarks, upon a very scandalous book lately published, stiled, The spirit of Quakerism, and the danger of their divine revelation laid open, subscribed, Henry Winder : also the nameless publisher therof, as justly reprehended for his enmity and great malice, in abusing an innocent people, by heaps of most gross lies, slanders, base insinuations and inferences, frothy and scurrilous scoffs and taunts, so void of Christianity, that probably no man, with a name, would undertake / by Thomas Camm.	Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707.	1698 (1698)	Wing C396; ESTC R21826	31,372	63

AN Old APOSTATE Justly Exposed His Treachery to the Holy God his Truth and People MANIFESTED His great Wickedness and Uncleanness which by False Covers he has Endeavoured to hide laid open to the Shame of him and all his Abettors In a short Answer or some Brief Remarks upon a very Scandalous Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Henry Winder ALSO The Nameless Publisher thereof as justly Reprehended for his Enmity and great Malice in Abusing an Innocent People by heaps of most Gross Lies Slanders Base Insinuations and Inferences Frothy and Scurrilous Scoffs and Taunts so void of Christianity that probably no Man with a Name would Undertake By THOMAS CAMM London Printed and Sold by T. Sowle next Door to the Meeting-house in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-street and at the Bible in Leaden-hall-street near the Market 1698. The Dog is turned to his own vomit again and the Sow that was washed to her wallowing in the Mire 2. Pet. 2.22 They went out from us but they were not of us c. John 2.19 Raging Waves of the Sea foaming out their own Shame c. Jude 13. Behold he Travelleth with Iniquity and hath conceived Mischief and brought forth Falshood he made a Pit and digged it and is fallen into the Ditch which he made his Mischief shall return upon his own Head and his Violent Dealing shall come down upon his own Pate Psal 7.14 15 16. THE PREFACE TO THE Impartial Reader IF thou hast Seen or Read a Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Hen. Winder then be pleased to suspend giving Judgment upon the Matter thereof until thou hast Read and duly Considered the Contents of what follows being a short Answer or some brief Remarks upon the most material Passages in that Book Levelled against the Truth and those People commonly called Quakers Remember what the Wise Man saith viz. He that is first in his own Cause seemeth Just but his Neighbour cometh and searcheth him If thou judge that I have been close upon the Author and have exposed him to publick view consider that he has been the occasion And what is written in Holy Scripture must be fulfilled viz. The Wickedness of the Wicked must return upon his own Head and he that hides his Sins cannot Prosper I confess I was Astonished to see the Subscriber before named grown so Impudent Hard since I had some small knowledge of him many Years past while he seemed to be of us and before he fell into such gross Vncleanness And have seen yea having by me several of his Confessions and Acknowledgments not only of his great Sins and Transgressions but also to the Truth and Way thereof and that the Quakers are the People that walk therein I say I was Astonished to see the Man now grown so Seared as to give himself the Lie and appear in Print against the Truth and Innocent People thereof with that Inconsiderateness and Fury which manifests him to be one of them Evil Men who grows worse and worse and to have entertained again that Evil Spirit that was in some measure once cast out and with him seven times worse which makes his latter end much worse than his beginning I shall not take notice of all his long Narrative but such as chiefly Reflects upon the Truth and People of God called Quakers My Intent and Aim being to Vndeceive or Inform them who have believed his False Reports and Deceitful Slanderous Insinuations against the Truth and Principle thereof which we Profess As also to Detect his false Pretences in his going from Truth and Vs and deserting that Profession that once he made thereof with us by demonstrating the True Cause thereof neither shall I Justifie the Three Women in any thing wherein they missed the Line of Truth which to his Conscience is known we never owned them in though he would now being filled with Enmity Falsly Insinuate we did in order to Prejudice the Minds of People against that Way of Truth from which he is now fallen through Sin and Wickedness And for a Cover thereto as also to gratifie such amongst them with whom he is now joyned as Lusts to be Envious and whose Fingers Itches to be at their old Work of Persecution being angry at the Liberty we now through God's Great Mercy enjoy as to our Religious Duties from the present Government for which we desire ever to be Thankful in all Grateful Acknowledgments How aptly what follows doth answer to what is before proposed I leave to thee Impartial Reader to Judge Recommending thee to the Guidance of the Vnerring Spirit that gives a good Vnderstanding and Leads into all Truth And that thou and all Men might come under the Guidance and Government thereof is the Earnest Desire of him who wisheth Good to all Men. Thomas Camm AN Old Apostate Justly Exposed c. Hen. Winder WILL not thy own Back-sliding Correct thee and is it not a Dreadful Thing that thou should so far harden thy Heart against God and the Convictions of his Spirit in thy own Conscience for thy great and manifold Sins so as to grow as Evil Men always do worse and worse making Shipwrack of Faith and a Good Conscience being Seared as with an Hot Iron to the fulfilling the Testimony of Holy Scripture upon thee viz. Because Judgment from God has not been speedily Executed thy heart has been more set to do Evil Thy Book if it be thine as by thee Subscribed and as I hear in part owned to be so I have seen read and considered of and find thy Enmity great and thy said Book chiefly bent against the Truth and People called Quakers and to Expose an Innocent People to the Fury and Scorn of Malicious Men such as the nameless Publisher thereof For if thou had bent thy self only against those thou names as Injurers of thee since they missed in their Management in that they Charge thee with whether all true or not we leave to him who knows all things and is the Searcher of all Hearts yet I should not have concerned my self on this wise but finding that through their Sides thou endeavourest to strike at Truth against which thou cannot prevail and the Principle thereof born Testimony unto by those Innocent People called Quakers I proceed to take notice of thy Book as followeth First thy Title is The Spirit of Quakerism An old Nickname more beseeming one that had never born the name of a Quaker than thee that once did and to what follows viz. The danger of their Divine Revelation c. Divine Revelation the Quakers own it 's Scripture Doctrine without it none can come to the True and Saving Knowledge of the Only True God and his Son Jesus Christ whom he hath sent whom to know is Life Eternal For it 's the Testimony of Holy Scripture That no Man knows the Father

as he is in the Light we have Fellowship one with another and the Blood of Jesus his Son cleanseth us from all sin 1 John 1.7 So that till H. W. turn to this Light come to walk in it even that which did not only manifest his Sin but reproved and condemned him therefore and through the Convictions whereof he was made in time past before he that led him into Sin had hardened his Heart to confess his Sins and Transgressions that he would now hide and cover I say till he come again to this Light and incline to walk in it all his outward Ordinances will never cleanse him nor make him a better Man let him apply himself never so much thereto And I shall now advise him to look back at his Work and consider the Effects thereof and see what Reproach he has brought upon himself being fallen into the foul Pit of Infamy and Shame that he had digged for others endeavouring to Criminate the Innocent Quakers he has exposed his own Crimes would God that he and his Wife might yet see their sad and dismal Estate and consider whence they are fallen and repent and do their first Works and so find a place of Repentance if happily they have not so added Sin to Sin and Rebellion to their great Wickedness knowingly so as to provoke a merciful and long-suffering God to make them Examples of his Wrath and fiery Indignation the eternal Portion of such wicked and impenitent Sinners which add Sin to Sin till the Measure of their Iniquity be filled up and it be said Go ye cursed into everlasting fire One thing more is to be taken notice of for the Information of the Reader that is part of his Title-Page viz. Their malicious Prosecution of H. W. and his Wife as Murtherers at the Publick Assize at Carlisle I Answer It 's very fallaciously worded so may deceive the unwary Reader who may therefrom conclude That there was some legal Prosecution that H. W. had been Called and Arraigned at the Barr had had a Trial and the Issue of a Jury and so an Assize Business when indeed there was no such thing if there had we should have it to the full or more For in Page 6. They stretch things to the height Which amounteth to thus much That H. W. and his Wife was there and the three Women also That the Women drew up their Accusations in Writing against H. W. and Wife and cast them in Towns and Streets that must be before they came at Carlisle at Carlisle gave one of their Papers to the judge and he only bid them proceed according to Law and they should have Justice That both Parties staid all the time of the Assizes And all else that the Women did was that they bid H. W. and his Wife fear God This is the Prosecution in full as in the 6th Page before is by H. W. given A very small Prosecution if it may properly be called One The Woman gave the Judge one of their Papers and bid H. W. and his Wife fear God Who would have thought reading the Title-Page as it is worded but that their had been a formal Prosecution at the Assizes And if the Man had meant honestly we doubt not but he would have qualified the word Prosecution with Endeavours or Attempts of Prosecution For all that was done by the said three Women at those Assizes can in t e greatest strictness amount to no more Thus having taken notice of what I thought most material in his Book which in any respect reflected upon Us the People called Quakers or the Holy Church which we make profession of wiping off the Dirt he throws at Us turns it back upon himself stripping off his deceitful Covers and exposeth him to the view of all to be a very unclean Man an angry Apostate demonstrating wherein the three Women missed the way of Truth and was disowned therein All which as before inserted I now freely submit and leave to the impartial and honest Reader 's Censure and Judgment and the Issue to the Lord And shall now begin to say something to the nameless Publisher But first I shall note unto the Reader That since I began the foregoing Answer to H. W. I am informed that there is already something published in Print by another Hand by way of Answer thereto in a Postscript to another nameless Author who like this Publisher has vilely abused the Quakers Now to what the nameless Publisher adds to the same Book subscribed by H. W. is such a Piece as I remember not that I have before read the like from any of our many envious Opposers and malicious Detracters Being such a Piece of down right Railery stuffed with Lyes gross Slanders ungodly Perversions base insinuations and most sordid and perverse Inferences yea Blasphemy and Contradictions idle Stories frothy and scurrilous Taunts that to trace particularly in every thing would be a tedious Work and more than I think needful till he appear to own what he has charged by giving us his Name who in the concealing of the same may think himself secure yet will render him and his Work very suspicious of great Injustice and Falshood thereby and so s●eakingly to charge that to wise thinking and judicious Readers it might be sufficient without any Answer yet for the sake of the unwary and too credulous Readers and for the better Information of such as by this his Work and the like has entertained Prejudice against the Truth and the Principle and Profession thereof as testified unto by the People commonly called Quakers and as a just Rebuke upon him for his ungodly Work I shall take notice of part thereof at present not fearing his Roll of 13 Ells or what else he mentions in his Preface though it prove as bad and as full of Envy as what he has here exposed against us The Method I propose for brevity sake is first to draw a Catalogue List or Schedule of some of his down-right Lyes and false Slanders as I find them packed up thick and threefold in his and H. W's Book and leave them at his Door as such with some short Remarks subjoyned challenging him if he can or dare appear as a Man with his Name to come forth to the Vindication or Proof thereof till which I look upon my self either on behalf of Truth or the People I own and walk amongst under no farther necessity of Answering Which Catalogue List or Schedule take as followeth under the Title of Gross Lyes and Slanders of the nameless Publisher of H. W's Book At his very Entrance of what he adds in the Postscript he begins with a Lye 1. I find the Quakers in open Discord c. Answ The Discord is betwixt the Quakers and Apostates such as H. W. c. and their Abettors And we have Divine Authority and Primitive Example in denying such Fellowship with us 2. Who cannot Err c. Meaning the Quakers Answ We never said so

But that all Men as well as those called Quakers are as Men liable to err if they forsake the Conduct of that Eternal Uunchangeable Uunerring Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth and is able to preserve out of all Error which these Men our Opposers slights and reviles 3. Cursed pretence to Divine Inspiration the strongest Hold of the Devil Answ Let him keep his cursed Pretence to himself Divine Inspiration we experience the Inspiration of the Almighty with the Effects thereof blessed be God according to Scripture To call which the strongest Hold of the Devil is not only a Lye but Blasphemy 4. Who knew all this Story 23 Years ago and should have disclaimed the Actors but did not c. Answ All the Story of H. W's as in his Book was never known before written nor could be because many things therein inserted were not true being Stuff added to amuse the Reader and abuse the Quakers It 's evident before that what was to be disclaimed was then done and in Testimony thereof tho' it discover his Enmity and Contradictions he has made some Acknowledgment in Page 24. viz. Some Friends who at the first Assizes persuaded the Women to do him Right by Confessing c. Next I shall repeat a whole heap of Lyes and Slanders which as he says he takes out of what he calls A further Essay by a learned peaceable compassionate Friend of ours wherein he saith He proves c. But I say Is not yet proved nor can be 5. From their many Impertinences and Nonsence in their Books which cannot without Blasphemy be attributed to the Holy Spirit 6. From the many flat Contradictions of one inspired Pretender unto another especially their Women 7. Their scurrilous Railing at their best Opposers 8. Their apparent Contradictions to plain Scripture 9. Miserable Perversions and gross Misinterpretations of Scripture 10. Their Noval Opinions not heard of before in the Church of Christ 11. The allowed Novelty of their Sect having no pretence to Succession 12. Their many Doctrines calculated to serve Popery instanced in Nine Heads of Doctrine wherein they agree with Papists against Scripture 13. Notorious Possessions and Witchcrafts 14. Many gross Blasphemies uttered by those so Inspired 15. VVallowing in gross unnatural Sins 16. VVild Attempts of long Fasting and Miracles 17. Contradiction to all other good Christians All which before-said I take out of less than two Leaves of the Preface to the Book aforesaid enough if there were no more for this nameless Publisher and him he calls our Learned Peaceable Compassionate Friend turning them all back as gross Lyes and impudent Slanders For which he that sits in Heaven will rebuke them And tho' the Publisher have Rabshacah like opened his Mouth wide against the Lord and his innocent People yet I shall in the Name and on Behalf of that People tell him his evil Design will be frustrated and his Eyes grow dim and Heart fail before he can ever prove what he hath wrongfully charged And I shall farther Answer them in the Words of Israel's God through his Servant Isaiah Chap. 37. Ver. 22 23. viz. This is the word which the Lord hath spoken concerning him The Virgin the Daughter of Zion hath despised thee and laughed thee to scorn the Daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head against thee Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed And against whom hast thou exalted thy Voice and lifted up thine Eyes on high Even against the Holy One of Israel 18. In Page 23. A strange Story this is Reader indeed and beyond the Power even of Quakers Impudency to deny since it was so long transacting so many Friends concerned in it c. Answ I say it is the Publisher's Impudency to cast upon the Quakers and a great Lye to say so many Friends were concerned it 19. In Page 28. What think of you these dear Sisters true Quakers they were and owned as such to the last Answ I say It 's not only a filthy Taunt but a shameful Lye 20. In Page 28. How many Christ's and Saviours will this People at length produce 21. In the same Page mentioning the Terms and Way of his meaning Christ's saving viz. They must value his Blood and submit to the Rule of his Word But the Quakers saith he like not such Terms therefore will have a Second meaning Christ or a Saviour 22. In same Page he saith Now shall we marvel that Quakers offer us a new Creed or Christianity and scorn our old Bible 23. Again in the same Page When their Spirit says we must have a Second Saviour a Carnal One too and who is within none but a single VVoman 24. Again in the same Page he saith VVas a fit Brother for their Christ within c. 25. In the same 28th Page he saith Is this all No we have more Christs among them c. See now Reader what heaps of Lyes this obscure railing Man belcheth forth to his shame And tho' he hide himself from Men by concealing his Name the Righteous God will find him out to Reward him according to his Works I deny them all as impudent Lyes But to proceed 26. In Page 32 he saith Then your Spirit Fancy or Flatus is your Supreme Rule c. Answ I say A horrid Lye and Slander That Spirit which leads into all Truth is that which we have always owned to be our Supreme Rule which if he had been led by would not have uttered so many Lyes and Slanders which manifests him to be of his Father the Devil who was a Lyer from the beginning 27. In Page 34 he faith So G. F. had the Humility to receive Adoration and VVorship c. Which I say is also another of his gross Lyes upon the Dead 28. In Page 35 he faith VVill G. F. deny it VVho declared himself equal with God and received VVorship c. I say It 's also another impudent Lye cast upon the Dead Let him prove what he charges 29. Again in same Page he saith As their meaning the Quakers Infallibility consists with Lyes and Self-Contradiction so can their Perfection stand with most abominable VVickedness c. Answ I say His Slander herein is abominable The Infallibility of the Eternal Spirit of Truth admits of no Lye nor Contradiction neither can abominable Wickedness stand with the Perfection that is the Product or Work of the Holy Ghost or Spirit in all true Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ And we cannot but bear Testimony against abominable Wickedness and all such as wallow therein as H. W. and other Apostates which makes them and this their obscure Publisher so grievous Angry to load us with so many Calumnies 30. In Page 37 he saith That Jesus descibed in Scripture was to seal up Vision and Prophecy Dan 9.24 Or to give such perfect discovery of God's Counsel and Will to the World that the Spirits extraordinary Gifts of Illumination should be no more necessary nor continued But the Quakers by