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A10875 Differences in matters of religion, betweene the easterne and westerne churches VVherein the Romane Church may see her selfe charged with as many errours, as shee falsly layeth to the charge of other churches in Europe. Gathered by Irenæus Rodoginus. Rodoginus, Irenaeus. 1625 (1625) STC 21141; ESTC S116064 28,860 89

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and without repentance and therefore damnable I remember that once conferring with a Cousin of mine a prudent and learned Gentleman compleat in all endowments of body and mind his want of charitie onely being excepted he said Woe is mee that you should be in Hell when I am in Heauen seeing you are an Heretike Protestant he meant I answered Well Sir you are too rash in iudging I am as sure said hee of your damnation if you die a Protestant as that Christ is in heauen at the right hand of the Father I answered You that are Papists are very sure of our damnation I wonder greatly that your are neuer sure of your owne saluation But thus much I tell you I will not sit vpon Gods Tribunall to giue out the Sentence of condemnation against you yet since you lacke charitie towards me your Christian Brother and giue out the sentence of condemnation against me so peremptorily taking Gods part vpon you I thinke you will be damned except you repent you of your speech And take not my Iudgement for rash since I iudge the Tree by the Fruit and you by your Charitie which is the principall and cardinall Vertue of the law Deuout Preachers fill your Sermons from the Store-house of Scripture informe in faith from Saint Paul to the Romanes and from the first and second of Iames reforme manners from Ieremie Ezechiell Hosea and Ioel denounce iudgements from Zacharia Amos Ionas Michaiah teach your selues from Titus and Timothie This is all your taske and to liue well and goe before the people like the fierie Pillar in the night and the Cloud in the day to guide them and to preserue them from Schisme and Heresie Doe not spend your time in inventing Rhethoricke to admiration critticke Methods for emulation vnprofitable Questions breeding Controuersies Feed not the itching eares of the humerous people with Nouelties needlesse questions and vnhandsomely borrowed Similies In touching and taxing your Aduersaries in Pulpits which would to God you did more seldome doe not so much endeauour to make them odious to your people as to make your hearers commiserate their estate for whom Christ died and to mooue your Auditorie to pray for their conversion and not for their confusion Our prayer to God should be to suspend his Iudgements and to helpe vs with grace as he pleaseth to giue it for measure and when hee pleaseth to giue it for time Prayer should bee Optatiue desiring and wishing with feare and humilitie no wayes Imperatiue enioyning substance and circumstance to God that he would inflict such punishment at such time and in such place vpon such and such persons Popish curses and Excōmunications the Sword which vntie the Gordian knot of the Church the Hammer which broake the wall in the mids the noyse which must not be heard at the rebuilding of the Temple I abhorre with my soule since the peremptory and rash Excommunications the drawing of the Sword of God vpon euery idle occasion scandalously and many times in derision of God and his Church the cutting off men from the Communion for little causes for no causes yea for vertuous actions and reproouing of sinnes offensiue to God and opprobrious to man haue occasioned bred brought to light nourished and yet still foster the rent of the Church Lord giue vs affections to loue peace hearts to bewaile the Schisme and then will we hope for Vnion Which O Lord in thy due time performe to thy glory the honour of thy Sonne and the comfort of those who shall perseuere in thy grace to the end Amen Thine in the Lord I. R. THE DIFFERENCES BETWEENE THE Easterne and Westerne CHVRCHES THe causes of this lamētable Schisme which diuided the affections of Christians and brought vpon them the yoake of Turkish seruitude as I can gather them from Petrus Stewartius Leodius a man by discent of the Scottish blood for Religion a Romish Catholicke remarkable for his dignity Vice-Chauncelour and professor of Diuinitie in Ingolstade famous for the Iesuites renowned Schoole there neither adding nor diminishing from his words as they are set downe in his notes vpon Caleca who being a Greeke wrote against the Orientall Churches in defence of the Ceremonies of the Occidentall Churches you shall haue faithfully translated as here followeth Petrus Stewartius in Calecam Pag. 407. editione Ingolstadiensi 1608. Ex varijs Graecorum monumentis WE think that the causes or rather the excuses of the Schisme are foure 1. First the deuision of the Empire for albeit the Emperours who did raigne at Constantinople after Constantines departure from the Citie of Rome a He toucheth the forged donation of Constantine which I would wish no man to beleeue since it is refuted inuincibly by the learned of this Age. Reynolds with Hart. History of Magdenburge and the Booke intituled Constantines defence because they had by a donation bestowed it all as wee spake before vpon the Church had not right it Italy yet not withstanding sometimes they ruled b This indeed is not probable that they had no right at all in Rome and yet should rule euery where Iudge indifferent Reader euery where But when a barbarous Nation had rushed c Infra pro in videtur poni into Italy euen to Rome and the d Loe. 3. Pope had required the aide of Leo Emperour then at Constantinople who negligently refused aide to the Church the Pope was forced to recall e Anno Dom. 800. Charles-maine from the French Territories and make him Emperour in Italy and defender of the Church For this Pope Leo was a man much giuen to voluptuousnesse as we read and therefore too too remisse in his gouernement of the Empire whence it came to passe that in his time the Sarazens tooke Syria the Turks Capadocia and so the Roman Empire was diuided 2. The second cause of the deuision was because they were not called to the Counsell f Vltra montanum seu Lugdunense lib. Greg. x. beyond the hills when the word filioque and from the sonne was added 3. The third occasion was which they themselues sometimes in familiar conference did shew vnto vs the too great and extraordinary exaction of the Popes Legats for when they brought yearely the Chrisme from the Apostolicke Sea to Constantinople they would not depart from thence vnlesse they had eighty pound weight of gold besides other gifts bestowed vpon them I will be silent of the pompe and pride whereof they spake which the Legats shew there 4. The fourth and chiefest cause vpon the Clergies part was the deposition of their Patriarch Photius f Et in the Latine multiplied soundeth harshly the excommunicating of him with other Prelats and some Abbots Paulo infra These things were written in Constantinople by the preaching Friers for the edifying of the people and for the profiting of soules in the yeare of our Lord 1252. to the praise and glory of the Father Sonne and Holy Ghost Amen The Articles controuerted The procession of the holy-Holy-Ghost not only from the Father but from the Sonne also of which Caleca writeth copiously in his first three Bookes The second Controuersie is the addition of the word filióque
When they assemble themselues to bury the dead euery friend and kinsman giueth the dead a kisse after a Pagan rite for the Pagans were wont to speake these words to the dead Vade cum natura te vocauerit sequemur te 20. They say 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Christ cannot doe so much as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Lord therefore they say often 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but neuer 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in their seruice 21. The Monkes as it seemeth only haue power to bind and loose which Christ gaue to Peter and his Successours wherefore Priests for Lucre take vpon them most filthy Monastique habite and remit sinnes only that they may gaine money 22. They auer that the Latines haue no Sacrament because they consecrate vnleauened bread for which damnable opinion they must be Hereticks saith Aetherianus 23. If a Latin Priest offer vpon their Altar which scarse is permitted they wash the Alter with water before they offer any thing vpon it againe And if a Latine woman bee married to a Greeke Husband shee is compelled to abiure the Latin Communion her Baptisme and the Lords Body which shee did eate in the Latine Church her confession and her fast vpon Saterdayes Likewise if a Latin man marry a woman in the Citie of Constantinople he must renounce and abiure the Latin Church the Greekish Priests promise much but they performe nothing they rebaptize those that come from the Latin Church to them The rest of the things which are obiected to them are euen the same which they obiect to the Latins So wee see the fruite of their Schisme to be the malicious imputation of many infamous lies and damnable calumnies worthy to be buried in the gulfe of obliuion for though some of these imputations be true yet most of them are Calumnies on both sides or at least things not worthy of rebuke The names of the Authours which haue written for Grecians against the Latines 1 Photius Patriarcha Constan obiected the procession of the Holy Ghost from the Son as an Heresie to the Latine Church anno 876. Baron annal He wrote a Booke De processione S. Sancti it is in the Bauarian Biblioth num 115. 2 Nicolaus Episcopus Methonae wrote a Booke de processione S. Sancti Biblioth Bavar num 116. Hee wrote also another of all the Controuersies of Fasting of Lent and of the Marriage of Priests numero 101. 3 Nicetas Pectoratus refuted by Humbertus His positions are in Bibliot Bav numero 120. 4 Metropolita Nicaenus hoc est Eustratius 5 Michael Cerularius of whom wee spake 6 Theophylactus Bulgariae Episcopus His Booke is in Bibl. Bav numero 116. vixit anno 1073. 7 Maximus Planudes Bav num 115. Hee liued vnder Andronicus Palaeologus the elder 8 Nicolaus Cabasilas qui scripsit contra Aquinatem 9 Germadius Bulgariae Episcopus Bav numero 118. 10 Iob Monabus wrote an Apologie against the Popes Supremacy exstat in Bav He liued vnder Michael and Theodora Emperours 11 Nilus Archiepiscopus Thessalon wrot 49 Bookes against the Latines chiefly hee wrote against the Procession of the holy Ghost and the Popes Supremacie His booke is in Bibl. Bav num 124. 12 Marcus Metropolita Ephesi was in the Florentine Councell a deadly enemy to the Latin Church returning to the Orient hee broke all concord and wrote many bookes against the Latins Bav num 102. 115. 13 Metropolitani Achrideni prima secunda congressio num 116. 14 Palamas contra Beccum 15 Michael Patriarcha Possevinus in fine apparatus 16 Germanus Patriarcha Constantinop Possev appar 17 Metrophanes Episcopus Smyrnensis Heidelb 216. 18 Hieremias Patriarcha Const 19 Maximus Margunius Episcopus Cytherorum The names of Authors which haue written against the Grecians for the Latins whereof some were Grecians 1 Emanuel Caleca Bib. Bav 2 Demetrius Cydonius contra Cabasilam Poss appar 3 Beccus pat Const Bav num 115. 4 Bessarion Cardinalis plurima scripsit 5 Gennadius Pat. Const for defence of the Councell of Florence 6 Gregorius Pat. Const Bib. Bav num 115. 7 Georgius Trapezuntius ad Monachos ibidem 8 Iulianus Cardinalis Possev 9 F. Iohannes ord praedicat F. Franciscus 10 Nichephorus Blemmida Grecian Cal. lib. 4. cap. 10. 11 Andreas Scocares Possev citeth him 12 Andreas Episcopus Megerensis Possev Catal. Sirleti 13 Fautinus Vallarensis Cretensis Archiep wrote against the hinderers of the Vnion with the Latines Catal. Sirleti 14 Leo X. Papa 15 Humbertus Cardinalis Tomo XI Baron against Archidrenus Bulgariae Episc Nicetas Pectoratus 16 Thomas contra Graecorum errores 17 Barlaam de Seminaria wrote Epistles against the Grecians Tom. 5. antiq Lect. D. Henrici Canisij 18 S. Anselmus wrote De processione S. Sancti cont Grecos 19 Hugo Aetherianus wrote 3. Bookes de proc S. Sancti cont Grecos Tom. 9. Biliot SS PP 20 Antonius Messana cont errores Graec. 21 Latinus quidem demorans in suburbiis Parisiorum ad Palaeologum Imperatorem peregrinum in Gallia Catal. Vatican Possevini 22 Disputatio qua duo Theologi disserunt de processione S. Sancti viz. Manuel Chrysolora cum Georgio Palama Metrop Thessalonic Possevinus holdeth this to be a Dialogue onely 23 Lastly all the Councells which confirme the Procession of the holy Spirit especially Florence published both in Greeke and Latine in which the Procession of the holy Spirit is most euidently shewen FINIS HEere faults escap'd I haue amended Therefore Reader be not offended But if thou wilt then whose to blame Thy fostred faults if others name In the Preface For rigorous read vigorous In C. read magis diligentiam for Crow r. Crane for Iekan r. Iehan for critticke r. crypticke for vntie r. vntied Page 3. in marg for Loe r. Leo. for lib. r. sub p. 8. line 11. for the r. thy p. 13. l. 14. for our r. one p. 14. l. 12. for Barnious r. 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