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A47813	The casuist uncas'd, in a dialogue betwixt Richard and Baxter, with a moderator between them, for quietnesse sake by Roger L'Estrange.	L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704.	1680 (1680)	Wing L1209; ESTC R233643	73,385	86

Thing is done is lesse a great deal then to forethink the doing of it And it is not only that you are sufficiently convinc'd of the mischiefs of a Toleration but your Conscience if I be not much mistaken will make as good a shift as any mans without it Ri. W● are against no Bishop or Church-Government of Gods Appointment Prof. of Non-consormists P. 89. We hold it not unlawful to take Oathes and make Covenants Subscriptions or Declarations of things Lawfull when Authority commandeth us Ibid. P. 98. We readily Subscribe the doctrine of the 39. Articles Ib. 98. We are far from condemning all Forms of Prayer and Publick Liturgy P. 100. We pick no Quarrells about Forms and Words Church-Div p. 176. Tell me if you can where God forbids you to use Good and Lawfull Words in Prayer meerly because the Magistrate or Pastor bids you use them Is this the meaning of all the Precepts of Honouring and Obeying your Superiours Do nothing which they bid you do though otherwise Lawful O Strange Exposition of the 4 th Commandement p. 178. I take the Common Prayer to be Incomparably better then the Prayers or Sermons of many that I hear and to be the best that I expect in many places when I go to Church R.Bs. Letter to Mr. Hinckly p. 78. It 's like the Pharisees Long Liturgy was in many things worse then Ours though the Psalmes were a great part of it and yet Christ and his Apostles oft joyned with Them and never Condemned them Ch. Div. P. 176. He is void of Common sense that thinketh that his Extemporary Prayer is not as truly a Form to all the People as if it had been written in a Book And every Publick Minister Imposeth a Form of Prayer upon all the Congregation Ibid. 179. We hold not all the use of Images even the Images of Holy Persons to be Vnlawfull Profession of Nonconformists P. 104. We hold not a Gown or other meer distinctive Garment for Ministers to be Vnlawful And some of us hold a Surplice rather to be used then the Ministry forsak●● Ibid. Many of us hold it Lawfull to communicate Kneeling Ibid. p. 105. We all hold that God must be Orderly and Decently Worshipped with the Body as well as Spiritually with the minde And that Reverend Gestures and Behaviours are fit not only to expresse Mental Reverence to God but also to Excite it in our selves and others Ibid. 105. We are for the use of the Creed Commandements and Lords Prayer p. 106. Ba. It is now about Twenty Years since I Preach'd at a Fast to the Parliament for Loyalty the King the next morning was voted home to his Crown and Government 2 d part● of Non-Con Plea Preface In This Sermon I have given the World a Tast of my Affections to the Church Gentlemen I have nothing to ask of you for my self nor any of my Brethren as for Themselves but that you will be Friends to Serious Preaching and Holy Living and will not ensnare our Consciences with any Vnscripturall Inventions of men This I would beg of you as on my Knees 1. As for the sake of Christ. 2. for the sake of Thousands of poor Souls 3. For the Sake of Thousands of the dear Friends of the Lord. 4. For your own sakes 5. For the sake of your Posterity 6. For the Honour of the Nation and your Selves 7. For the Honour of Sound doctrine and Church-Government c. Pa. 45. and 46. For if you Frown on Godlynesse under pretense of Vniformity in Vnnecessary things and make things worse then when Libertinism and Schisme so prevail'd the people will look back with Groans and say What happy times did we once See! And so will honour Schisme and Libertinisme and Vsurpation through Your Oppression 8. I beg this of you for the Honour of Sovereignty and the Nations Peace Ibid. And then for your new-made Religions and needless Scandalous Inventions and an adoring of your Titles and Robes of Honour covering your Ignorance Pride and Sensuality which Church Tyrants call the Order of the Church c. All the Images of Piety Government Unity Peace and Order which Hypocrites and Pharisees sat up are despised Engines to destroy the Life and Serious Practi●e of the things Themselves and are set up in Enmity against Spirituality and Holyness that there might be no other Piety Government Unity Peace or Order in the Church but These Liveless Images Ch. Div. Pa. 105. 106. Ri. Though we are not satisfied of the lawfullness of using the Transient Image of the Crosse as a dedicating Sign and Symbol of Christianity so much Sacramental much lesse to refuse from Baptisme and Christendome all Christian Infants unlesse they will have them so Crossed no more then if a Crucifix were so Imposed and used yet do we not Condemn all use of either Crosse or Crucifix Nor do we presume Conscientiously to Reproach and dishonour the Antient Christians who living among Pagans that derided Christ Crucify'd did shew them by oft using this sign that they were not ashamed of the Crosse. And though we find that they used more Rites and significations devised Signs and Ceremonies then we think they should have done yet we judg it our Duty to love and honour their Memorial Nor do we take all Rites to be Sinfull that are significant Non-conformists Profession Pa. 103.104 Ba. You are not satisfy'd of the Lawfulnesse c. you say But are you convinc'd of the Vnlawfulnesse For we must obey Magistrates though we know not that their Commands are Lawful so long as they are so Indeed and we have no sufficient reason to believe them Unlawfull Holy C●m Thesis 323. For It is not our Erroneous Conceits that a Lawfull Command is Unlawfull that will excuse any man from the Guilt of Disobedience Ibid. 357. But if a thing seem to you very needfull to a Good End and yet the word be against it avoid it c. And if you ●hink that the Scripture commandeth you This or That Positive means if Nature and True Reason assure you that it is against the End and is like to do much more harm then good be assured that you mistake That Scripture Ch. Divis. pa. 205. Mo. It is a strange thing Mr Richard that your Consci●nce should be so easy to your self and yet so Troublesome to the Government But your Reserve of leaving every Pivate man to judge First of the Condition of the Law by the Word and Then of his Iudgment of That Scripture whether it be Right or Wrong by Nature and Right Reason This Reserve I say undoes all again For every man that does Ill with a Good Intention reckons that he has Nature and Right Reason on his side Now for You Mr. Baxter you tell us over and over so often of your Fast S●rmon to the H●●se of Commons and the Kings being called in the n●xt day as if That very Sermon

their Fathers I say they are as zealous for These as if Eternal Life consisted in them Where God forbids them there they are as forward as if they could never do enough and where God Commands them There they are as backward to it yea as much against it as if they were the Commands of the Devil himself And for the Discipline of Christ tho all parts of the world have much opposed it yet where hath it been so fiercely and powerfully resisted The Lord grant that this harden'd willful malicious Nation fall not under that Heavy Doom Luke 19.27 But those mine Enemies which would not that I should reign over them bring them hither and slay them before me R. B's Saints Rest Part. 3. P. 91. Mo. To see the difference now Gentlemen betwixt your two Spirits The One so meek and like a Christian the Other so clamorous and so Uncharitable What hopes of Unity and Peace or what Pretence to 't so long as these dividing and defaming Liberties are kept a foot Your Friend Richard tells you very well Mr. Baxter that Such Holynesse is a deceiptfull Name that S●tan puts upon Unholynesse and a loathsom Sacrifice to the God of Love You revile the Government and those that Conform to it and yet at the same time you tell the People that you are persecuted You would be thought kinder to his Majesty however in devolving the severity from the King upon the Clergy and yet his Majesty is pleased to minde you that Since the Printin this Declaration severall Seditious Pamphlets and Quaeres have been Published and Scatter'd abroad to infuse dislike and Iealousies into the hearts of the People and of the Army and some who ought rather to have repented the former mischief they have wrought then to have endeavour'd to emprove it have had the hardynesse to publish that the Doctrine of the 〈◊〉 against which no man with whom we have conferred 〈◊〉 excepted ought to be reformed as well as the Discipline ● So that all this yielding was too little it seems to stop the Mouths of an Insatiable Faction But what is it at last that you would be at Ri. I beg of the Clergy that before they any more render Odi●●s These whom they never heard and Vrge Rulers to Execute the Laws against them that is to confine Imprison Excommunicate Sil●nce and Vndo th●m they would be sure what manner of spirit they are of Non-con Plea Part I. Epistle Mo. Sure of what spirit you are do ye say Why Certainly your own Conscience tells you that we are sure of that as Hearing Seeing Feeling and Understanding can make us You are by your own Professions of the Presbyterian Spirit The Spirit that made Perjury the Condition of Life Liberty and Estate to every man in the Case of your Covenant The Spirit that Entred upon Sequestred Livings and left not the Loyal Clergy the Freedome so much as of Teaching a School to supply themselves and their Miserable Families with Bread The Spirit that deny'd the King in his Distresses the Comfort of so much as a Common-Prayer Book or the Assistance of his own Chaplains A greater Rigour and Barbarity then is ever used by Christians to the meanest Prisoners and Greatest Malefactors whom though the Iustice of the Law deprive of Worldly Comforts yet the mercy of Religion allows them the Benefit of their Clergy as not ayming at once to destroy their Bodies and to damn their souls EIK. BAS 207. They that envy my being a King are loth I should be a Christian while they seek to deprive me of all things else they are affraid I should save my Soul Ibid. Behold here in a few words the Spirit that you plead for 〈◊〉 〈…〉 poor Creatures We would only have a Toleration of all ●ha●'s Tolerable he that will Tol●rate All is Bad and he that will Tolerate none that differ is Madd R. B's answer to Dr. Stillingfleet P. 84. Mo. If the Church may be Iudge all that are Tolerable are Tolerated allready If the People must be the Iudges the Intolerable must be Tolerated for Company For so long as every Party Makes or Pretends it self to be in the Right all the Dissenters have one Common Plea But in case of any Indulgence to be allow'd it is certainly due to these in preference that are quietest without it I cannot but have great Compassion for any Party that labours under a Religious and Invincible Disagreement and Modesty applies to Authority for Relief For so long as they only tell their own Tale I cannot but in ●harity believe that they have no other design then to do their own businesse But when a Conscientious Pretense comes to be carry'd on by Scandall Invective Reproach and such Methods as are directly Irreligious the dispute is no longer matter of Scruple or Worship but Superiority and Power There may be Religion in telling the Government what you desire but the exposing of your Superiours to the People is Down right Sedition And as you have handled the matter you might e'en with as good a Grace tell the Rabble in plain English Look ye my Mas●ers here 's a company of Anti-Christian Swearing Drinking Fellows that will not let us have Liberty of Conscience But I would fain hear you two debate the business of Tolera●on a little betwixt your selves Ri. What if you shall smite or cast out a supposed Schismatique and Christ shall find an able holy peaceable Minister or other Christian Wounded or Mourning out of doors Pet. for Peace P. 12. Or see a Schismatique wounded and a Saint found Bleeding c. Saints Rest. P. 1●● Ba And now you talk of Saints Richard to think of such a Friend dyed at such a time and such a one at another time such a pretious Christian slain in such a Fight and such a one at ●uch a Fight O what a number of them could I name and that all these are enter'd into Rest and we shall surely go to Them but They shall not return to Us. Saints Rest. P. 100. In That State of Rest Angells as well as Saints will be Our bless●d Associates Ibid. P. 101. I think Christians This will be a more Honourable Assembly then you ever here beheld and a more happy Society then you were ever of before Surely Py● and White c. are now members of a more Knowing Vnerri●g Well-order'd Right-aiming Self-denying Vnanimous Honourable Tryumphant Senate then This from whence they were taken is or ever Parliament will be It is better to be door-keeper to That Assembly whither Twisse c. are Translated then to have continu'd here the Moderator of This. Saints Rest. P. 101. Nay how many Professors will rashly rail and lye in their Passions How few will take well a Reproof but rather defend their sin how many in these times that we doubt not to be Godly have been guilty of