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that_o woman_n shall_v baptise_v for_o even_o in_o that_o necessity_n the_o curate_n may_v be_v send_v for_o or_o some_o other_o minister_n that_o may_v soon_o be_v come_v by_o your_o question_n be_v soon_o answer_v for_o no_o man_n doubt_v of_o the_o person_n that_o be_v present_a at_o such_o a_o time_n but_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o that_o when_o such_o necessity_n require_v the_o curate_n or_o the_o next_o minister_n be_v soon_o send_v for_o as_o often_o time_n he_o be_v in_o as_o great_a extremity_n as_o that_o and_o what_o a_o reason_n call_v you_o this_o woman_n be_v present_a when_o the_o child_n that_o be_v bear_v be_v in_o great_a danger_n of_o death_n therefore_o the_o minister_n can_v be_v send_v for_o to_o baptise_v the_o child_n to_o your_o objection_n of_o the_o magistrate_n allow_v the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v by_o woman_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o your_o general_a proposition_n be_v untrue_a as_o i_o think_v for_o all_o the_o magistrate_n of_o this_o realm_n do_v not_o so_o second_o that_o if_o they_o do_v yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o do_v it_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o book_n for_o many_o thing_n be_v permit_v as_o tolerable_a which_o be_v not_o establish_v by_o any_o law_n and_o therefore_o if_o you_o have_v do_v well_o you_o shall_v rather_o have_v reprove_v the_o custom_n that_o do_v use_v it_o than_o the_o book_n that_o speak_v never_o a_o word_n of_o it_o i_o deal_v as_o plain_o as_o i_o can_v for_o i_o keep_v i_o to_o the_o book_n but_o your_o vain_a conjecture_n and_o frivolous_a reason_n against_o that_o book_n may_v not_o be_v yield_v unto_o but_o open_v that_o they_o may_v appear_v in_o their_o colour_n chap._n 3._o the._n 2._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 79._o sect._n ult._n your_o place_n of_o scripture_n allege_v against_o it_o be_v not_o of_o sufficient_a argument_n feeble_n argument_n force_n to_o prove_v your_o purpose_n christ_n in_o the._n 28._o of_o matthew_n say_v to_o his_o disciple_n go_v and_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_a they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la woman_n may_v not_o baptise_v i_o say_v this_o argument_n follow_v not_o no_o more_o than_o this_o do_v ergo_fw-la pastor_n may_v not_o baptise_v for_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o a_o apostle_n be_v dislincte_n from_o a_o pastor_n t._n c._n pag._n 109._o sect._n 5._o the_o place_n of_o the._n 28._o of_o saint_n matthew_n be_v as_o strong_a against_o woman_n baptise_v as_o it_o be_v against_o their_o preach_n for_o 〈◊〉_d for_o untruth_n 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n can_v not_o be_v pull_v in_o sunder_o which_o y_o e_z lord_n have_v join_v together_o from_o time_n to_o time_n for_o
increase_v but_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o the_o substantia_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la and_o therefore_o not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o the_o supper_n be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v m._n bucer_n likewise_o in_o his_o censure_n upon_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n his_o word_n be_v these_o the_o third_o chapter_n opinion_n m._n bucers_n opinion_n be_v of_o the_o substance_n form_n and_o break_v of_o bread_n which_o all_o do_v well_o enough_o agree_v with_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n who_o it_o be_v manifest_a to_o have_v use_v unleven_v bread_n and_o easy_a to_o be_v break_v for_o he_o break_v it_o and_o give_v to_o his_o disciple_n piece_n of_o the_o bread_n break_v touch_v the_o form_n and_o figure_n whether_o it_o be_v round_o or_o square_n there_o be_v nothing_o declare_v of_o the_o evangelist_n and_o because_o this_o bread_n be_v use_v only_o for_o a_o sign_n and_o not_o for_o corporal_a nourishement_fw-mi i_o see_v not_o what_o 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that_o we_o be_v call_v by_o the_o example_n of_o our_o sa_fw-fr ionce_n christ_n to_o use_v the_o supper_n usual_a and_o common_a bread_n for_o what_o time_n our_o savioure_n christ_n celebrate_v his_o supper_n there_o be_v no_o other_o bread_n to_o be_v get_v but_o unleavened_a bread_n there_o be_v astraight_o charge_v give_v by_o the_o law_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v then_o not_o leaven_a bread_n and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o that_o if_o there_o have_v in_o then_o when_o he_o celebrate_v his_o supper_n as_o at_o other_o time_n nothing_o but_o leaven_a bread_n he_o will_v not_o have_v cause_v unleavened_a bread_n to_o have_v be_v make_v for_o that_o purpose_n of_o celebrate_v his_o supper_n io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v not_o usual_a bread_n but_o proper_o appoint_v for_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o passover_n bread_n christ_n use_v unleven_v bread_n and_o then_o to_o be_v use_v and_o not_o otherwise_o usual_o and_o common_o for_o their_o usual_a and_o common_a bread_n be_v leaven_a wherefore_o this_o make_v against_o you_o and_o if_o you_o will_v have_v the_o commandment_n that_o appertethe_v to_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o passover_n perpetual_a 2_o pa._n 130._o sect._n 2_o and_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o by_o that_o precept_n 2._o chro._n 35._o before_o allege_v it_o seem_v you_o will_v then_o must_v we_o make_v it_o a_o matter_n of_o necessity_n to_o have_v unleavened_a bread_n but_o as_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d so_o be_v this_o also_o for_o the_o kind_n of_o bread_n be_v indifferent_a although_o as_o m._n bucer_n say_v it_o come_v near_a to_o the_o institution_n indifferent_a the_o kind_n of_o bread_n of_o itself_o indifferent_a of_o christ_n to_o use_v unle_fw-mi vened_a bread_n b_o cause_n he_o do_v celebrate_v his_o supper_n with_o it_o if_o there_o be_v not_o other_o circumstance_n and_o reason_n to_o move_v the_o church_n sometime_o to_o use_v the_o contrary_n chap._n 1._o the._n 8._o division_n 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have_v your_o warning_n the_o place_n of_o one_o name_n for_o another_o be_v not_o so_o great_a a_o oversight_n but_o that_o it_o may_v sometime_o happen_v to_o those_o which_o be_v very_o circumspect_a and_o even_o unto_o yourself_o as_o josias_n for_o ezechias_n in_o the_o beginning_n *_o and_o gregory_n for_o george_n afterward_o so_o that_o herein_o you_o be_v not_o inferior_a to_o i_o and_o the_o ambrose_n pag._n 97._o sect._n 3_o ambrose_n one_o may_v well_o be_v set_v against_o the_o other_o but_o let_v these_o trifle_n go_v it_o be_v ambrose_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr officijs_fw-la cap._n 27._o who_o word_n be_v these_o let_v the_o bishop_n use_v the_o clerk_n and_o especial_o the_o minister_n which_o be_v indeed_o his_o son_n as_o his_o own_o member_n let_v he_o assign_v every_o one_o to_o that_o office_n whereunto_o he_o shall_v see_v he_o to_o be_v meet_v the_o part_n also_o of_o the_o body_n which_o putrify_v be_v with_o grief_n cut_v off_o and_o it_o be_v long_o look_v unto_o if_o it_o can_v be_v cure_v with_o medicine_n ▪_o but_o if_o it_o can_v they_o be_v it_o cut_v away_o by_o a_o good_a physician_n so_o it_o be_v the_o property_n of_o a_o good_a bishop_n that_o he_o be_v desirous_a to_o heal_v the_o weak_a to_o take_v away_o sore_n that_o creep_v on_o to_o burn_v some_o and_o not_o to_o cut_v they_o away_o last_o to_o cut_v away_o with_o grief_n that_o which_o can_v be_v cure_v chap._n 1._o the._n 12._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 148._o in_o the_o end_n of_o the._n 1_o sect._n to_o the_o rest_n i_o will_v answer_v with_o this_o pratestation_n that_o if_o all_o man_n shall_v do_v contrary_a to_o the_o order_n of_o god_n yet_o their_o authority_n or_o 〈◊〉_d ght_v not_o to_o have_v the_o weight_n of_o a_o feather_n which_o i_o have_v say_v before_o and_o do_v understand_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o i_o do_v not_o express_v it_o and_o with_o this_o i_o come_v to_o master_n doctor_n authority_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v true_a ▪_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o make_v this_o protestation_n before_o there_o be_v cause_n when_o any_o authority_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o order_n of_o god_n reject_v it_o and_o spare_v not_o but_o yet_o you_o must_v show_v we_o that_o 〈◊〉_d of_o god_n to_o the_o which_o it_o be_v trarie_a ▪_o chap._n 1._o the._n 13._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 113._o lin._n 5._o excommunicate_v theodorus_n alone_o excommunicate_v theodorete_a bishop_n of_o laodicea_n do_v by_o himself_o alone_o excommunicate_a both_o appolinary_n for_o keep_v company_n with_o that_o wicked_a sophister_n epiphanius_n as_o sozomenus_n write_v lib._n 6._o cap._n 25._o t._n c._n pag._n 148._o sect._n 2._o as_o for_o theodoretus_n bishop_n of_o laodicea_n which_o sozomene_n make_v mention_n of_o in_o his_o six_o book_n i_o find_v none_o such_o but_o there_o be_v mention_v of_o one_o theodotus_n who_o be_v say_v to_o have_v separate_v or_o excommunicate_v apollinaris_n but_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v there_o that_o he_o alone_o of_o his_o own_o authority_n do_v excommunicate_v he_o and_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n in_o that_o chapter_n to_o prove_v that_o he_o do_v it_o not_o of_o his_o own_o authority_n for_o immediate_o after_o his_o heresy_n be_v know_v damasus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o peter_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n cause_v a_o synod_n to_o be_v gather_v at_o rome_n where_o his_o heresy_n be_v condemn_v now_o for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o custom_n of_o synod_n and_o council_n be_v when_o they_o condemn_v the_o heresy_n to_o excommunicate_v the_o heretic_n heresy_n heretic_n you_o understand_v not_o the_o story_n for_o at_o this_o time_n apollinaris_n be_v not_o fall_v into_o his_o heresy_n it_o be_v to_o be_v think_v that_o that_o council_n do_v excommunicate_v he_o and_o that_o theodotus_n bishop_n of_o laodicea_n do_v execute_v that_o decree_n and_o excommunication_n and_o in_o deed_n sozomene_n do_v so_o expound_v himself_o when_o immediate_o after_o he_o have_v 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one_o whit_n by_o any_o mean_n for_o what_o other_o thing_n can_v you_o gather_v thereof_o but_o that_o he_o pronounce_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n against_o he_o even_o as_o it_o be_v the_o manner_n in_o our_o church_n though_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o same_o person_n only_o which_o pronounce_v the_o sentence_n and_o if_o that_o the_o right_n of_o excommunication_n have_v not_o be_v in_o george_n only_o why_o be_v there_o mention_n that_o he_o will_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v entreat_v to_o absolve_v he_o for_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o you_o will_v 29._o pag._n 147._o lin_v 29._o grant_v and_o indeed_o you_o have_v before_o so_o affirm_v that_o absolution_n be_v of_o the_o same_o quality_n in_o this_o respect_n with_o excommunication_n and_o it_o be_v there_o witness_v that_o apollinaris_n do_v oftentimes_o desire_v he_o to_o receyve_v he_o again_o into_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o in_o those_o day_n the_o bishop_n 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the_o admonition_n interpret_v themselves_o pag._n 108_o or_o how_o do_v they_o know_v that_o man_n do_v not_o examine_v themselves_o chap._n 1._o the_o five_o division_n admonition_n the_o five_o then_o they_o minister_v with_o common_a &_o 7._o &_o act._n 2._o 46._o act._n 20._o 7._o usual_a bread_n now_o with_o water_n cake_n bring_v in_o by_o pope_n alexander_n be_v in_o form_n fashion_n and_o substance_n like_o their_o god_n of_o the_o altar_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 97._o sect._n 2._o &_o pag._n 98._o sect._n 1._o 2._o the_o place_n you_o allege_v act._n 2._o which_o be_v this_o and_o they_o continue_v commumon_a of_o bread_n use_v in_o the_o commumon_a daily_o with_o one_o accord_n in_o the_o temple_n &_o break_v bread_n at_o home_n do_v eat_v their_o meat_n together_o with_o gladness_n and_o singleness_n of_o heart_n make_v as_o much_o for_o your_o purpose_n as_o it_o make_v for_o the_o papist_n half_a communion_n for_o they_o allege_v it_o to_o prove_v that_o 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