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A00919 A Catholike confutation of M. Iohn Riders clayme of antiquitie and a caulming comfort against his caueat. In which is demonstrated, by assurances, euen of protestants, that al antiquitie, for al pointes of religion in controuersie, is repugnant to protestancie. Secondly, that protestancie is repugnant particularlie to al articles of beleefe. Thirdly, that puritan plots are pernitious to religion, and state. And lastly, a replye to M. Riders Rescript; with a discouerie of puritan partialitie in his behalfe. By Henry Fitzimon of Dublin in Irland, of the Societie of Iesus, priest.; Catholike confutation of M. John Riders clayme of antiquitie. Fitzsimon, Henry, b. 1566.; Rider, John, 1562-1632. Rescript.; Rider, John, 1562-1632. Friendly caveat to Irelands Catholicks. 1608 (1608) STC 11025; ESTC S102272 591,774 580

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but_o will_v say_v nos_fw-la talem_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la non_fw-la habemus_fw-la neque_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la
we_o have_v no_o such_o custom_n nor_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o if_o any_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a belief_n among_o we_o obstinate_o we_o discard_v he_o present_o in_o to_o the_o rank_n of_o heretic_n by_o commission_n of_o christ_n 21.23_o math._n cap._n 18._o thom._n walden_v doctrinalis_fw-la fidei_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 21.23_o si_fw-mi ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la audierit_fw-la sit_fw-la tibi_fw-la tanquam_fw-la ethnicus_fw-la &_o publicanus_fw-la if_o he_o do_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v unto_o thou_o as_o a_o ethnic_a and_o publican_n because_o ecclesiae_fw-la iudicium_fw-la sequi_fw-la debet_fw-la lector_n christianus_n sub_fw-la poena_fw-la perfidiae_fw-la si_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la res_fw-la pertineat_fw-la sub_fw-la poena_fw-la contumaciae_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la pertineat_fw-la a_o christian_a reader_n must_v follow_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o pain_n of_o disbeleefe_n if_o it_o belong_v to_o belief_n or_o under_o the_o 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