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A16701 The apologie of the Romane Church deuided into three seuerall tractes whereof 1. The first, concerneth the antiquitie and continuance of the Catholike Romane religion ever since the Apostles time. 2. The second that the Protestantes religion was not so much as in being, at or before Luthers first appearing. 3. The thirde that Catholickes are no lesse loyall and dutifull to their soveraigne, then Protestantes. All which are vndertaken and proued by testimonies of the learned Protestantes themselues. Anderton, Lawrence.; Anderton, James, fl. 1624, attributed name. 1604 (1604) STC 3604; ESTC S119868 294,461 212

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austin_n then_o send_v from_o gregory_n bishope_n of_o rome_n concern_v also_o the_o undoubted_a conversion_n of_o the_o m._n the_o see_v heretofore_o tract_n 2._o sect._n 2._o l._n m._n and_o in_o the_o mark_fw-mi there_o at_o the_o letter_n m._n briton_n of_o wales_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o their_o perseverance_n ¶_o perseverance_n see_v heretofore_o tract_n 1_o sect_n 2._o in_o the_o margin_n there_o at_o this_o mark_n ¶_o in_o that_o faith_n till_o augustine_n come_v and_o the_o foresay_a evident_a z._n evident_a hereof_o see_v heretofore_o tract_n 1_o sect._n 2._o l._n 1._o y._n z._n agreement_n of_o austin_n and_o of_o the_o brittone_n of_o wales_n in_o all_o substantial_a point_n of_o faith_n so_o plain_o be_v that_o faith_n which_o the_o roman_a church_n now_o profess_v the_o very_a same_o whereto_o the_o roman_n be_v convert_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n a_o thing_n so_o evident_o true_a that_o our_o adversary_n m._n bunny_n though_o use_v all_o wariness_n to_o acknowledge_v or_o utter_v more_o then_o of_o necessity_n he_o must_v confess_v yet_o as_o enforce_v and_o say_v
for_o which_o he_o cit_v many_o scripture_n 3._o three_o our_o adversary_n do_v yet_o further_o confess_v and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n prove_v it_o for_o otherwise_o they_o be_v no_o true_a pastor_n that_o these_o church_n pastor_n at_o the_o least_o some_o of_o they_o shall_v med_n shall_v mr._n fulke_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_n catholic_a page_n 11_o initio_fw-la &_o 92_o aunt_n med_n always_o resist_v all_o false_a opinion_n even_o with_o open_a reprehension_n and_o that_o fine_n that_o mr._n deering_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la in_o c._n 2._o vers_fw-la 12._o lect_v 10_o circa_fw-la med_n etc._n etc._n 3_o lect_n 12._o fine_n the_o religion_n be_v of_o god_n no_o fear_n of_o man_n shall_v keep_v they_o back_o because_o as_o mr._n deering_n say_v hereof_o ibid._n hereof_o m_o deering_n ibid._n that_o be_v to_o keep_v the_o honour_n of_o god_n for_o corner_n and_o sol_fw-mi tarry_v place_n for_o as_o the_o apostle_n prescribe_v 10._o prescribe_v rom._n 10_o 10._o with_o th●_n heart_n a_o man_n believe_v unto_o righteousness_n and_o with_o the_o mouth_n confess_v to_o salvation_n concern_v now_o the_o continue_a administration_n of_o sacrament_n 1._o first_o the_o scripture_n affirm_v that_o we_o be_v thereby_o to_o 26._o to_o 1._o cor._n 11_o 26._o show_v the_o lord_n death_n till_o he_o come_v 2._o second_o our_o puritan_n adversary_n do_v acknowledge_v and_o according_o teach_v that_o there_o must_v be_v 80._o be_v beza_n in_o his_o sermon_n upon_o the_o canticle_n english_v page_n 79._o &_o 80._o pastor_n and_o doctor_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n that_o therefore_o medium_n therefore_o mr._n bancroft_n in_o the_o survey_n of_o the_o holy_a pretend_a discipline_n page_n 440_o post_v medium_n the_o ministry_n of_o the_o worde_n and_o sacrament_n be_v in_o absolute_a degree_n of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n with_o who_o our_o other_o protestant_a adversary_n do_v agree_v mr._n whitaker_n say_v to_o this_o end_n of_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n that_o auferantur_fw-la that_o mr._n whitaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 3._o pag._n 249_o ante_fw-la med_n say_v s●_n adsunt_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la constituunt_fw-la &_o tollunt_fw-la si_fw-la auferantur_fw-la be_v present_a they_o do_v constitute_v a_o church_n and_o be_v absent_a do_v subvert_v it_o and_o mr._n d._n wil●et_n likewise_o say_v of_o they_o fine_a they_o mr._n willet_n in_o his_o synopsis_n page_n 71_o fine_a these_o mark_n can_v be_v absent_a from_o the_o church_n and_o it_o be_v no_o long_o a_o true_a church_n than_o it_o have_v these_o mark_n for_o as_o he_o further_o say_v finc_fw-la say_v mr._n willet_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la page_n 69_o finc_fw-la the_o only_a absence_n of_o they_o do_v make_v a_o nulletie_n of_o the_o church_n with_o who_o herein_o the_o lutheran_n also_o sit_fw-la also_o lobechius_n a_o lutherane_n doctor_n and_o public_a professor_n in_o the_o university_n of_o rostoche_n in_o disput_fw-la theologic_n pag._n 213._o sect_n 44._o affirm_v of_o these_o and_o of_o the_o church_n that_o tam_fw-la areto_fw-la &_o indistolubili_fw-la nexu_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la copulata_fw-la sunt_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o coetu_fw-la vocatorum_fw-la alterum_fw-la sine_fw-la altero_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la &_o negato_fw-la uno_fw-la alterum_fw-la quoque_fw-la negare_fw-la necesse_fw-la sit_fw-la do_v agree_v 3._o three_o our_o adversary_n do_v yet_o further_o hereupon_o affirm_v of_o these_o that_o fine_a that_o mr_n whitaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 3._o page_n 260._o say_v sunt_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la proprietates_fw-la essentiales_fw-la and_o see_v mr_o whitgifte_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n page_n 81._o ante_fw-la med_n and_o see_v m_o d._n covell_n in_o his_o examination_n etc._n etc._n page_n 21._o ante_fw-la med_n &_o page_n 5._o fine_a they_o be_v essential_a note_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o med_n that_o hiperius_fw-la in_o method_n theolog_fw-la page_n 548_o ante_fw-la med_n &_o page_n 532._o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la and_o amandus_n pol●nus_n in_o partition_n theolog_fw-la page_n 304._o ante_fw-la med_n these_o note_n be_v needful_a to_o distinguish_v the_o true_a church_n from_o the_o false_a that_o man_n careful_a of_o their_o salvation_n may_v know_v where_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o to_o which_o company_n chief_o th●y_v aught_o to_o adjoine_v themselves_o and_o th●t_o therefore_o the_o church_n militant_a be_v in_o some_o sort_n evermore_o to_o remain_v not_o poor_a or_o slender_a in_o paucetie_n of_o professor_n but_o rich_a and_o plentiful_a 131._o plentiful_a caelius_n secundus_fw-la curio_n write_v a_o whole_a book_n hereof_o entitle_v de_fw-la amplitudine_fw-la regni_fw-la dei_fw-la wherein_o read_v he_o lib._n 1._o page_n 1._o 5._o 14._o 24._o &_o l._n 2._o page_n 135._o 148_o 167_o 183_o 232_o 233_o 243_o 246._o etc._n etc._n and_o he_o answer_v the_o common_a objection_n urge_v to_o the_o contrary_a l._n 1_o page_n 96._o 97_o 100_o 106_o 108_o 115_o 117_o 120_o 128_o 131._o neither_o obscure_a or_o latent_fw-la but_o like_a to_o manifestatione_n to_o math._n 5_o 15._o &_o esa_n 2_o 2._o concern_v the_o answerable_a exposition_n of_o which_o text_n see_v d._n humphrey_n hereafter_o page_n 84._o in_o the_o margin_n under_o the_o letter_n e._n and_o s._n austin_n tom_n 6._o contra_fw-la faustum_n manich._n l._n 13._o c._n 13._o say_v propter_fw-la hos_fw-la enim_fw-la motus_fw-la paruulo●um_fw-la qui_fw-la possint_fw-la seduci_fw-la ab_fw-la hominibus_fw-la a_o manifestatione_n claritatis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dominus_fw-la quoque_fw-la providens_fw-la ait_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la civitas_fw-la abscondi_fw-la supra_fw-la montem_fw-la constituta_fw-la and_o tom_n 7._o contra_fw-la litter_n petil._n l._n 2._o c._n 32._o he_o further_o say_v hinc_fw-la fit_a ut_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la vera_fw-la neminem_fw-la lateat_fw-la unde_fw-la est_fw-la illud_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o euangelio_fw-la ipse_fw-la dicit_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la civitas_fw-la abscondi_fw-la supra_fw-la montem_fw-la constituta_fw-la ideoque_fw-la in_o eodem_fw-la psalmo_fw-la connectitur_fw-la in_o sole_a posuit_fw-la tabernaculum_fw-la suum_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la in_o manifestatione_n a_o city_n place_v upon_o a_o hill_n that_o can_v be_v hide_v know_v and_o catholic_n and_o bartholomeus_n keckermanus_fw-la in_o sistem_fw-la theolog_fw-la page_n 408._o initio_fw-la say_v novi_fw-la testam_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ratione_fw-la notarum_fw-la &_o formae_fw-la externae_fw-la semper_fw-la debet_fw-la esse_fw-la sensibilis_fw-la seu_fw-la conspicua_fw-la ut_fw-la nimirum_fw-la reliquae_fw-la gentes_fw-la quae_fw-la adhuc_fw-la extra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la sunt_fw-la scire_fw-la possint_fw-la cuinam_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la seize_v debeant_fw-la agregare_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la novi_fw-la testam_fw-la esa_fw-mi c._n 61._o ab_fw-la initio_fw-la magnificis_fw-la verbis_fw-la predixit_fw-la and_o hiperius_n in_o method_n theolog_fw-la page_n 552._o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la say_v profectò_fw-la nisi_fw-la signa_fw-la haec_fw-la extarent_fw-la ac_fw-la vera_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sensibus_fw-la deprehenderetur_fw-la qui_fw-la scire_fw-la possit_fw-la homo_fw-la cumam_fw-la caetui_fw-la salutis_fw-la consequendae_fw-la ergô_o adherendum_fw-la sioi_fw-fr foret_fw-la and_o peter_n martyr_n in_o his_o epist●es_n annex_v to_o his_o common_a place_n in_o english_a page_n 153._o a._n circa_fw-la medium_n report_v certain_a point_n wherein_o he_o profess_v to_o agree_v with_o we_o catholic_n say_v we_o also_o do_v not_o appoint_v a_o invisible_a church_n but_o do_v define_v congregation_n unto_o which_o the_o faithful_a may_v know_v that_o they_o may_v safe_o adjoine_v themselves_o affirm_v further_o a_o little_a there_o before_o that_o this_o opinion_n be_v say_v he_o common_a with_o we_o to_o catholic_n conspicuouse_a a_o truth_n so_o evident_a that_o they_o doubt_v not_o thereupon_o to_o affirm_v and_o teach_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n clarissimam_fw-la scripture_n mr._n henoch_n clapham_n in_o his_o sovereign_a remedy_n against_o schism_n p._n 18._o after_o many_o proof_n allege_v by_o he_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o otherwise_o conclude_v say_v not_o only_o all_o auncientes_n ever_o hold_v the_o church_n ever_o visibilitie_n but_o also_o all_o learned_a man_n of_o our_o age_n in_o like_a full_a manner_n be_v the_o church_n visibilitie_n affirm_v from_o the_o scripture_n as_o well_o by_o melancthon_n in_o loc_n comun_n edit_fw-la 1561._o c._n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la &_o in_o prefat_n lib._n corp_n doctrinae_fw-la christianae_n in_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la saxon._n &_o mismicis_fw-la electoris_fw-la saxon._n impress_n lipsiae_fw-la anno_fw-la 1561._o and_o in_o council_n theolog_fw-la part_n 1._o page_n 512._o &_o part_n 2._o pag._n 201._o &_o 394._o as_o also_o by_o d._n humphrey_n in_o jesuitismi_n part_n 2._o rat_n 3._o page_n 240._o where_o he_o say_v declaratum_fw-la est_fw-la nos_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la in_o aere_fw-la ollocare_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la nos_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la confiteri_fw-la esse_fw-la opidum_fw-la supra_fw-la montem_fw-la positum_fw-la quod_fw-la abscondi_fw-la non_fw-la p●test_fw-la math._n 5._o montem_fw-la excelsum_fw-la domus_fw-la dei_fw-la cunctis_fw-la collibus_fw-la editiorem_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la omnes_fw-la gentes_fw-la confluent_a esa_n 2._o