Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
book_n	find_v	scripture_n	word_n	3,449	5	4.1562	3	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A12557	Paralleles, censures, observations Aperteyning: to three several writinges, 1. A lettre written to Mr. Ric. Bernard, by Iohn Smyth. 2. A book intituled, the Seperatists schisme published by Mr. Bernard. 3. An answer made to that book called the Sep. Schisme by Mr. H. Ainsworth. Whereunto also are adioyned. 1. The said lettre written to Mr. Ric. Bernard divided into 19. sections. 2. Another lettre written to Mr. A.S. 3. A third letter written to certayne bretheren of the seperation. By Iohn Smyth.	Smyth, John, d. 1612.	1609 (1609)	STC 22877; ESTC S103006	171,681	180

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&_o truth_n &_o of_o the_o full_a &_o complete_a communion_n thereof_o 1._o joh._n 2.19_o your_o second_o objection_n &_o reason_n be_v that_o by_o this_o my_o definition_n of_o saint_n or_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n so_o determine_v i_o exclude_v the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o hezechiah_n david_n ichosaphat_n moses_n etc._n etc._n who_o commit_v &_o suffer_v know_v sin_n yea_o &_o the_o corinthian_n 2._o cor._n 12.21_o also_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n revel_v 2_o 20.21_o who_o do_v not_o amend_v &_o yet_o be_v saint_n &_o true_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n i_o answer_v first_o to_o that_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n object_v by_o you_o i_o say_v your_o

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