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A54088 Reflections upon George Keith's late advertisement of a meeting to be held by him and his friends, at Turner's-Hall on the eleventh of the fourth month, 1696 to which he saith, William Penn, Thomas Ellwood, George Whitehead, John Penington, and the second days weekly meeting at London, called Quakers, are justly desired to be present, to hear themselves charged, &c. Penington, John, 1655-1710. 1696 (1696) Wing P1231; ESTC R220475 5,732 5

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joyning with a Prevailing Party in that called the Yearly Meeting to pass what he calls a most Unchristian Censure of Excommunication against him without Proof c. But why is G. W. here singled out and not the whole Prevailing Party as he terms them included except that he have a more particular Pique at him In the same Paragraph he goes on and tells us I offer to prove the said George Whitehead out of some of his printed Books which it doth not appear that he hath retracted or corrected guilty of most Erronious and Hurtful Principles contrary to the Fundamental Doctrine of the Christian Faith and Religion The like he had said before of W. Penn only with this addition That W. P. is guilty of gross Contradiction to himself for he is forward at Charging when it comes to Proof he falls short Yet may I remind him that two Books lie upon his Hands unanswered which treat of this very Subject the one written by T. E. called Truth Defended the other by my self Entituled An Apostate Exposed in Answer to three of his called Nameless Bull True Copy and Gross Error In the one they are cleared from several False Deductions Inferences c. brought by G. K. to which he pretended he would give Answer but never did yet in the other his Quotations out of those very Books of theirs out of which he hath since pickt Quarrels are oposed to his later Sense not only of the Authors but of the very Books themselves to which also no Answer hath been yet given So that it is not so much his different Sense or Opinion of G. W. and W. P. as he would insinuate p. 4. Of this Advertisement but even of their Books calling that Orthodox one year which he represents as Hetrodox another that I was drawn to Detect and Expose However two things occur to me from the Premises First That printed Books not Retracted or Corrected are good Evidence against G. W. and W. P. and are they not so against G. K. especially seeing he hath confessed True Copy p. 17. That some of his need some further Explanation Emendation and Correction and promised to do it tho' in that he keeps his word with us as he hath hitherto done with T. E. Secondly That it is not reasonable for him to expect his renewed Charge against G. W. and W. P. of the same Nature as the former should be Heard and Debated in a Select Assembly of his own when he is Debtor to two Tracts publish'd some Months since where the matter hath been so handled that he hath not thought fit to Reply Let him fairly clear his Hands of what is already depending and which he hath chose to concert in Print and then offer new if he hath any Till then he must excuse us that we cannot comply with his empty and shifting Subterfuges whereby to turn the course of the Controversy out of its due and proper Channel whither he brought it into an indirect one where he would now lead us to drown it What follows being mostly a catching at a passage or two out of those Books of T. E's which he hath not attempted to Answer I touch the lighter on as esteeming it an unmanly way of Treating an Opponent in which I design not to gratifie him And he is the more inexcusable in asmuch as the odds in his Eyes is so great between them G. K. being a Man who as he tells us in his Serious Appeal p. 29. Hath the Gifts both of Sound Knowledge and Expression with manifold other Mercies bestowed upon him T. E. on the other Hand is represented by G. K. p. 3. of this Advertisement grosly Ignorant of Human Learning guilty of Pedantick Trifling and Quibling But G. K. is not the only Adversary who hath made up in Vaunt what he wanted in Argument or been forced to sink under the weight of a bad Cause For Great is the Truth and it doth and will prevail He tells up in p. 3. He hath neither time nor ability of outward Estate to print Answers to him or others that heap Book upon Book against him What time he hath or how he employs it I undertake not to determine but he should like a Wise Builder have counted the Cost before he began with us and not blame us for answering his Books after he hath given the Provocation Yet time was when he took time to Scribble Books very fast and that at a time when the Press was in his Parties Hands but I must confess from the first time that he hath met with Opponents and that he hath been put upon to prove as well as assert Time or Ability hath mightily failed him All evidence whereof he gave in his first onset who instead of an answer to T. E. emitted an Epistle wherein he laboured to persuade Friends to anticipate his Work by Calling in T. E's Sheets and disowning them upon a presumption what a Bugbear he was and that he had no less than Fifty Perversions Forgeries and Fictions to lay to his Charge But when that had not its proposed effect to Condemn T. E. unheard for his Proof was yet to produce but he was obliged to print his Answer such as it was more Noise than Matter or forfeit his Credit a Reply at length came out under the Title of A Seasonable Information c. and T. E. rejoyned in his called A further Discovery which hath lain upon G. K's Hands ever since though once he told us it was probable that and another of T. E's called Truth Defended might be answered in due time as hath been hinted already But now to extricate himself he would excuse himself from printing for want of time and ability of Outward Estate as well as that he insinuates p. 4. that W. P's calling him Apostate hath that tendency for he saith His Wife and Children are affected with it and that it tends to the exposing of them to Ruine and want as if he name among us for Outward Ends. If so the disappointment is just But if he be not a Man alone one of no People 〈◊〉 which he is offended with T. E. for supposing a Man would think So considerable a number of 〈…〉 wherein he would have us believe his Testimony is so well received who have publickly 〈◊〉 him and his Christian Testimony and that in a printed Treatise too as he alledgeth in the same page might set to their Shoulders and help ease him of his Change if his printed Testimonies ●● not less grateful to them than they are to himself Yet one thing more I cannot but observe in p. 3. where finding fault with T. E's Perversion as he terms it upon his plain words he saith Let the Reader but read my words in my own Book and at the first sight he will see the Cheat and Forgery That is more than my Eyes can do at second sight but to return here he refers to his own Book why did he not say Let him meet me at Turners-Hall and I will prove it By this the ridiculousness of this Meeting shews it self for a Man will readily say Controversy in Print is decided by Print an Abuse or Forgery there by comparing Book with Book and if he thought his Defensible I doubt not but he would have done it These short Touches I hope will satisfie the Candid and Judicious that we are not concerned to follow him in his several Doubles and Twistings but to hold him to his Task he hath taken upon himself and that his Demand is alike Idle as Unreasonable if we consider either the Person Challenging one that is gone off from us the Place a Meeting set up in Opp●sion to us and our Meetings which he terms in the Title Page Their USUAL Meeting place as if it had been of some considerable Duration when perhaps two Months ago they had none there the Company he calls his Friends a Separation out of a Separation that hath defamed and perversly exposed Friends even when he himself was against them the mixt Auditory such as never were of our Communion and that they will be either Moderate or Friendly we have but his bare word for who needs a Voucher for his own Deportment or that he either can or would keep out the very Rabble whom his publick Advertisement is most likely to draw in is a great Question the Peremptoriness of the 〈◊〉 as if we were at his beck to come and go when and whether he pleased to appoint us the Reproach if any Disorder happen for he is none of the most Orderly himself besides that the Controversy 〈◊〉 is already in a more open free and publick Course in Print into which he drew us and till of late hath persisted in though some what faintly as well as promised to pursue and that a Hearing the never so publick bears no Proportion to the Press where he began The which Considerations whether of weight with him or ●● we dare leave with the Unbyassed as sufficient whereon to 〈◊〉 and refuse our Compliance with his Peremptory Demands John Penington London Printed by T. S●wle in White-Hart-Court in Grace-Church-street 1696.