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socinian_o say_v do_v no_o way_n concern_v we_o much_o good_a may_v they_o do_v the_o author_n they_o who_o set_v up_o for_o so_o great_a master_n of_o reason_n will_v but_o ill_o resent_v it_o that_o a_o man_n of_o his_o head_n shall_v pretend_v to_o they_o 38._o ibid._n §._o 38._o who_o w.h._n be_v and_o who_o his_o answerer_n i_o know_v not_o have_v never_o see_v either_o of_o their_o book_n and_o be_v so_o well_o acquaint_v with_o this_o author_n sincerity_n i_o can_v depend_v upon_o his_o credit_n i_o meet_v with_o nothing_o quote_v but_o what_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o give_v a_o account_n of_o but_o to_o do_v it_o as_o it_o shall_v be_v one_o ought_v to_o have_v the_o book_n by_o he_o for_o i_o vehement_o suspect_v this_o answerer_n have_v fare_v no_o better_a than_o his_o brethren_n chap._n v._o a_o reply_n to_o the_o four_o chapter_n of_o the_o first_o discourse_n to_o the_o three_o observable_a lay_v down_o in_o the_o first_o chapter_n which_o now_o come_v to_o be_v consider_v 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mistake_v be_v sufficient_a for_o avoid_v the_o just_a imputation_n of_o idolatry_n whence_o he_o infer_v that_o if_o catholic_o can_v produce_v a_o rational_a ground_n of_o their_o apprehend_v christ_n present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n though_o possible_o mistake_v in_o it_o they_o be_v to_o be_v excuse_v from_o idolatry_n at_o least_o by_o those_o protestant_n who_o excuse_n the_o lutheran_n and_o so_o he_o proceed_v to_o show_v his_o rational_a ground_n i_o think_v it_o a_o easy_a undertake_n to_o show_v a_o vast_a disparity_n between_o the_o papist_n and_o lutheran_n in_o this_o point_n but_o not_o very_o pertinent_a at_o this_o time_n for_o neither_o of_o those_o party_n be_v concern_v in_o the_o question_n as_o it_o be_v now_o state_v by_o our_o author_n it_o be_v with_o he_o and_o with_o his_o catholic_o we_o have_v to_o do_v with_o they_o that_o prescind_v from_o transubstantiation_n and_o a_o corporal_a presence_n and_o not_o with_o the_o lutheran_n or_o papist_n who_o both_o 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from_o we_o in_o heaven_n p._n 18.31.37.111.217.329_o in_o all_o thing_n speak_v consonant_n to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o primitive_a father_n according_a to_o who_o notion_n the_o true_a and_o plain_a meaning_n of_o that_o chapter_n have_v be_v so_o full_o express_v in_o a_o late_a paraphrase_n that_o no_o more_o need_n be_v say_v of_o that_o matter_n and_o whereas_o this_o author_n far_o say_v that_o no_o argument_n from_o our_o sense_n be_v valid_a against_o plain_a revelation_n though_o the_o case_n be_v something_o otherwise_o in_o the_o fourteen_o page_n of_o the_o first_o discourse_n to_o this_o likewise_o the_o archbishop_n answer_v p._n 263._o nature_n 263._o pag._n 263._o let_v we_o now_o consider_v how_o the_o same_o transubstantiation_n be_v against_o natural_a reason_n and_o natural_a operation_n which_o although_o they_o prevail_v not_o against_o god_n word_n yet_o when_o they_o be_v join_v with_o god_n word_n they_o be_v of_o great_a moment_n to_o confirm_v any_o truth_n not_o that_o they_o add_v any_o authority_n to_o god_n word_n but_o that_o they_o help_v our_o infirmity_n p._n 266._o where_n give_v divers_a instance_n out_o of_o scripture_n of_o faith_n confirm_v by_o sense_n he_o conclude_v which_o sensible_a proof_n be_v so_o far_o from_o derogation_n of_o faith_n that_o they_o be_v a_o sure_a establishment_n thereof_o again_o p._n 270_o concern_v argument_n draw_v from_o the_o schoolman_n i_o make_v say_v he_o no_o foundation_n at_o all_o upon_o they_o but_o my_o very_a foundation_n be_v only_o upon_o god_n word_n and_o my_o argument_n in_o this_o place_n i_o bring_v in_o only_a to_o this_o end_n to_o show_v how_o far_o your_o imagine_a transubstantiation_n be_v not_o only_o from_o god_n word_n but_o also_o from_o the_o order_n of_o nature_n in_o the_o very_a same_o manner_n that_o we_o do_v to_o this_o day_n and_o have_v already_o answer_v in_o
who_o he_o censure_v so_o free_o in_o the_o remain_a part_n of_o this_o paragraph_n 33._o ibid._n p._n 33._o we_o shall_v still_o think_v that_o mons_fw-la daillé_n have_v reason_n and_o make_v a_o true_a resolution_n of_o popery_n into_o passion_n and_o interest_n that_o bishop_n taylor_n have_v prove_v as_o well_o as_o say_v that_o the_o papist_n pretence_n to_o the_o father_n be_v but_o few_o and_o trifle_v that_o what_o the_o defender_n quote_v out_o of_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v be_v a_o very_a good_a argument_n against_o the_o literal_a sense_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n while_o he_o plead_v for_o the_o papist_n do_v prudent_o to_o omit_v catholic_a tradition_n which_o he_o know_v be_v not_o on_o their_o side_n we_o shall_v still_o profess_v with_o dr._n stillingfleet_n that_o the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world_n have_v as_o fair_a a_o plea_n as_o the_o popish_a and_o conclude_v that_o this_o trifler_n find_v fault_n with_o he_o have_v not_o ex_fw-la but_o inexcuseable_o mistake_v the_o doctor_n be_v argument_n as_o will_v appear_v by_o compare_v his_o word_n with_o what_o the_o dr._n say_v rom_n idolatry_n cap._n 2._o §_o 7._o pag._n 132.133_o last_o we_o agree_v that_o if_o transubstantiation_n be_v warrant_v by_o catholic_a tradition_n adoration_n be_v sufficient_o ground_v and_o can_v but_o smile_v as_o crassus_n do_v upon_o a_o like_a occasion_n to_o see_v how_o gingerly_o the_o defender_n nibble_v at_o this_o concession_n he_o seem_v to_o say_v that_o tradition_n be_v for_o transubstantiation_n ibid._n ibid._n yet_o he_o wave_v that_o and_o plead_v only_o for_o a_o corporal_a presence_n which_o for_o any_o thing_n he_o say_v here_o may_v be_v take_v in_o a_o lutheran_n sense_n though_o to_o talk_v with_o he_o in_o his_o own_o language_n if_o trans_fw-la be_v true_a consubstantiation_n must_v needs_o be_v false_a and_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o his_o purpose_n who_o pretend_v to_o abstract_n from_o both_o and_o ground_n his_o adoration_n precise_o upon_o a_o real_a presence_n and_o now_o it_o be_v my_o turn_n to_o address_v to_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n and_o if_o he_o have_v either_o read_v mr._n thorndike'_v epilogue_n or_o but_o careful_o consider_v this_o author_n quotation_n out_o of_o it_o to_o ask_v his_o opinion_n about_o these_o two_o or_o three_o question_n 1._o whether_o this_o author_n have_v in_o all_o this_o whole_a pamphlet_n express_o own_a himself_o a_o roman-catholic_a or_o rather_o skulk_v under_o the_o general_a name_n of_o catholic_a take_v in_o the_o same_o latitude_n mr._n thorndike_n take_v it_o in_o his_o epilogue_n 2_o whether_o all_o his_o shuffle_n be_v not_o only_o to_o advance_v mr_n thorndike'_v new_a and_o singular_a notion_n of_o a_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o or_o with_o or_o under_o the_o element_n §_o 28._o p._n 32._o distinct_a from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n real_a and_o the_o papist_n and_o lutheran_n corporal_a presence_n in_o short_a not_o a_o virtual_a nor_o spiritual_a but_o a_o corporal_a presence_n effect_v neither_o by_o con_v nor_o transubstantiation_n but_o after_o some_o other_o unknown_a manner_n distinct_a from_o both_o §_o 17._o p._n 21._o 3_o whether_o a_o new_a and_o upstart_a doctrine_n which_o be_v probable_o never_o think_v of_o before_o mr_n thorndike'_v time_n aught_o to_o pass_v for_o a_o doctrine_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n 4_o whether_o the_o man_n that_o play_v these_o trick_n be_v a_o honest_a papist_n and_o whether_o the_o humble_a christian_n that_o swallow_v they_o must_v not_o have_v a_o very_a humble_a understanding_n chap._n xi_o a_o reply_n to_o the_o five_o last_o section_n of_o the_o second_o discourse_n 33._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 33._o our_o author_n §_o 30._o impute_v it_o to_o the_o strength_n of_o his_o ground_n not_o to_o excess_n of_o charity_n or_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o learned_a man_n that_o of_o late_a the_o protestant_n do_v either_o not_o at_o all_o or_o but_o very_o faint_o charge_v the_o papist_n with_o idolatry_n this_o confident_a assertion_n he_o very_o well_o know_v be_v false_a as_o the_o reader_n will_v find_v it_o by_o &_o by_o &_o if_o it_o be_v true_a it_o will_v not_o serve_v he_o to_o shelter_v his_o peculiar_a notion_n under_o the_o patronage_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n wherefore_o i_o must_v return_v he_o a_o quotation_n out_o of_o paragraph_n of_o dr._n stillingfleet_n preface_n to_o roman_a idolatry_n last_o paragraph_n the_o same_o preface_n which_o himself_o quote_v viz._n that_o our_o church_n be_v not_o now_o to_o be_v form_v according_a to_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o though_o learned_a man_n much_o less_o to_o be_v model_v by_o the_o copricio_n of_o superstitious_a fanatic_o who_o prefer_v some_o odd_a opinion_n and_o way_n of_o their_o own_o before_o the_o receive_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n they_o live_v in_o such_o as_o these_o we_o rather_o pity_v their_o weakness_n then_o regard_v their_o censure_n and_o be_v sorry_a when_o our_o adversary_n make_v such_o property_n of_o they_o as_o by_o their_o mean_n to_o beget_v in_o some_o a_o disaffection_n to_o our_o church_n but_o to_o come_v to_o those_o protestant_n 34._o disc_n 2._o §._o 30._o p._n 33_o 34._o who_o our_o author_n tell_v we_o neither_o out_o of_o singularity_n nor_o charity_n but_o pure_a conviction_n be_v of_o late_a so_o kind_a to_o popery_n the_o first_o he_o quote_v be_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n wherein_o he_o be_v not_o only_o a_o conciliator_n and_o so_o oblige_v by_o his_o very_a design_n to_o strain_v his_o charity_n but_o his_o term_n of_o reconciliation_n be_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n peculiar_a notion_n of_o his_o own_o which_o he_o seem_v to_o have_v propose_v as_o not_o think_v that_o other_o reconciler_n have_v sufficient_o clear_v the_o papist_n from_o idolatry_n for_o it_o must_v be_v confess_v that_o this_o pious_a and_o learned_a man_n be_v zealous_a to_o his_o last_o hour_n to_o acquit_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o idolatry_n partly_o out_o of_o the_o natural_a sweetness_n of_o his_o temper_n which_o make_v he_o unwilling_a to_o lay_v so_o grievous_a a_o sin_n to_o the_o charge_n of_o any_o church_n but_o chief_o upon_o a_o mistake_a principle_n that_o all_o idolatry_n unchurche_n so_o that_o the_o charge_n of_o it_o will_v in_o his_o opinion_n light_v heavy_a upon_o the_o papist_n and_o at_o the_o rebound_n equal_o hurt_v the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o derive_v her_o succession_n and_o ordination_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n this_o mistake_a opinion_n the_o defender_n greedy_o lay_v hold_v on_o and_o ask_v with_o great_a briskness_n what_o church_n or_o sect_n of_o religion_n can_v be_v apostate_n at_o all_o 34._o ibid._n p._n 34._o if_o not_o a_o church_n commit_v and_o command_a idolatry_n i_o must_v desire_v he_o to_o reconcile_v this_o pert_a question_n with_o another_o as_o pert_a in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o benefit_n of_o our_o saviour_n chap._n 9_o §_o 14._o and_o now_o say_v he_o what_o can_v hinder_v god_n goodness_n or_o decay_v the_o church_n since_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o sin_n can_v even_o the_o sin_n of_o idolatry_n as_o be_v prove_v at_o large_a in_o the_o two_o forego_v section_n for_o when_o he_o do_v this_o he_o will_v return_v the_o common_a answer_n to_o that_o objection_n wherein_o he_o now_o side_n with_o mr_n thorndike_n ibid._n ibid._n the_o next_o be_v bishop_n forbes_n in_o his_o considerationes_fw-la modestae_fw-la &_o pacificae_fw-la who_o design_n and_o character_n be_v so_o well_o know_v and_o so_o obvious_a to_o any_o man_n that_o have_v but_o ever_o look_v upon_o his_o book_n that_o i_o think_v the_o reader_n will_v need_v no_o far_o information_n how_o excessive_a his_o charity_n be_v in_o this_o matter_n 35._o ibid._n p._n 35._o three_o archbishop_n bramhall_n conclude_v that_o very_a section_n which_o our_o author_n quote_v with_o these_o word_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v give_v divine_a worship_n to_o a_o creature_n or_o at_o least_o a_o party_n among_o they_o yet_o i_o be_o so_o charitable_a as_o to_o hope_v they_o intend_v it_o to_o the_o creator_n it_o may_v be_v the_o defender_n will_v reply_v now_o that_o he_o do_v not_o say_v excessive_o charitable_a ibid._n ibid._n four_o it_o be_v notorious_a that_o bishop_n taylor_n write_v his_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v to_o serve_v the_o interest_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o at_o that_o time_n be_v to_o obtain_v a_o general_a toleration_n wherefore_o it_o concern_v he_o in_o that_o book_n to_o be_v more_o than_o a_o conciliator_n and_o represent_v popery_n with_o the_o utmost_a favour_n it_o will_v bear_v yet_o he_o can_v not_o even_o in_o that_o book_n so_o dissemble_v his_o zeal_n against_o popery_n but_o that_o in_o the_o very_a paragraph_n our_o author_n quote_v he_o accuse_v the_o papist_n confidence_n and_o
fancifull_a opinion_n which_o make_v they_o do_v violence_n to_o all_o philosophy_n and_o the_o reason_n of_o man_n and_o undo_v and_o cancel_v the_o principle_n of_o two_o or_o three_o science_n and_o these_o word_n which_o one_o will_v think_v be_v not_o so_o very_o favourable_a and_o absolve_a lie_v just_a between_o the_o two_o sentence_n the_o defender_n have_v transcribe_v in_o the_o next_o paragraph_n he_o call_v idolatry_n the_o crime_n which_o papist_n formal_o hate_v and_o we_o material_o avoid_v and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o to_o that_o say_v if_o they_o who_o do_v as_o the_o papist_n do_v be_v not_o formal_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n there_o be_v no_o danger_n their_o disciple_n shall_v be_v so_o so_o that_o he_o plain_o own_v they_o guilty_a of_o material_a and_o dare_v not_o venture_v to_o acquit_v they_o even_o of_o formal_a idolatry_n notwithstanding_o the_o defender_n go_v on_o at_o all_o adventure_n 35._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 31._o §._o 35._o and_o will_v have_v it_o a_o fault_n in_o dr._n taylor_n to_o say_v in_o one_o book_n that_o if_o papist_n be_v deceive_v in_o transubstantiation_n it_o be_v certain_a they_o commit_v a_o act_n of_o idolatry_n whereas_o he_o say_v in_o another_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a the_o object_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n etc._n etc._n which_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o very_a course_n compliment_n to_o his_o reader_n for_o it_o either_o suppose_v he_o so_o lazy_a as_o not_o to_o look_v back_o what_o word_n those_o &_o cetera's_fw-la stand_v for_o or_o if_o he_o do_v so_o dull_a as_o not_o to_o see_v that_o dr._n taylor_n in_o both_o these_o quotation_n only_o charge_v the_o papist_n with_o material_a idolatry_n ibid._n ibid._n he_o will_v likewise_o have_v m._n daillé_n to_o be_v faulty_a for_o oppose_v the_o papist_n with_o such_o a_o form_n of_o argument_n as_o will_v prove_v the_o lutheran_n to_o worship_v a_o mite_n but_o instead_o of_o his_o miserable_a thatwhich_a solution_n let_v he_o interpret_v the_o word_n join_v in_o the_o major_a of_o his_o own_o syllogism_n by_o consubstantiate_a as_o he_o must_v do_v if_o he_o mean_v to_o oppose_v the_o lutheran_n and_o he_o will_v find_v that_o it_o have_v four_o term_n in_o the_o three_o place_n faulty_a with_o he_o be_v dr._n stillingfleet_n for_o two_o or_o three_o reason_n which_o as_o they_o have_v be_v urge_v so_o they_o have_v be_v answer_v before_o but_o he_o tell_v we_o we_o in_o good_a time_n that_o catholic_n grant_v as_o much_o as_o the_o dr._n that_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n in_o any_o thing_n be_v no_o good_a ground_n to_o pay_v divine_a worship_n to_o that_o thing_n for_o he_o hope_v we_o have_v forget_v his_o abstract_n from_o a_o corporal_n and_o ground_v his_o adoration_n precise_o upon_o a_o real_a presence_n we_o desire_v he_o will_v stick_v to_o this_o grant_n and_o that_o supposal_n and_o then_o show_v what_o trick_n he_o have_v leave_v to_o evade_v idolatry_n 31._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 36_o 37._o §_o 31._o he_o conclude_v all_o these_o be_v faulty_a i_o say_v why_o so_o positive_a good_a sir_n why_o because_o they_o charge_v the_o papist_n with_o worship_v a_o creature_n instead_o of_o christ_n from_o which_o other_o protestant_n clear_v they_o but_o what_o if_o the_o charger_n give_v better_a reason_n then_o the_o clearer_n or_o what_o if_o the_o charger_n be_v the_o far_o great_a number_n be_v a_o majority_n the_o guide_n belove_a argument_n grow_v out_o of_o favour_n or_o what_o if_o the_o charger_n and_o the_o clearer_n both_o agree_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n as_o indeed_o they_o do_v for_o the_o one_o part_n only_o say_v that_o the_o papist_n worship_v bread_n and_o the_o other_o that_o it_o be_v true_a they_o do_v so_o but_o it_o be_v more_o than_o they_o mean_v to_o do_v to_o conclude_v the_o papist_n direct_v the_o act_n of_o adoration_n to_o the_o species_n suppose_v christ_n to_o be_v local_o present_a under_o they_o but_o if_o christ_n be_v not_o so_o but_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n instead_o of_o he_o as_o the_o protestant_n affirm_v and_o prove_v then_o the_o papist_n who_o intentional_o worship_n christ_n do_v actual_o pay_v their_o worship_n to_o bread_n instead_o of_o he_o which_o be_v all_o the_o protestant_n accuse_v they_o of_o for_o that_o act_n be_v as_o certain_o a_o species_n of_o idolatry_n as_o the_o object_n have_v the_o species_n of_o bread_n 35._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 37._o §._o 35._o the_o five_o and_o last_o protestant_n author_n that_o be_v quote_v be_v the_o reverend_n and_o learned_a dr._n hammond_n who_o according_a to_o the_o defender_n seem_v to_o charge_v the_o papist_n rather_o with_o a_o material_a then_o formal_a idolatry_n and_o this_o material_a idolatry_n we_o be_v tell_v like_o material_a adultery_n may_v in_o many_o case_n be_v commit_v without_o sin_n this_o latter_a doctrine_n i_o believe_v be_v none_o of_o dr._n hammond_n for_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o plain_a scripture_n for_o when_o abimelech_n gen_n xx._n have_v like_a to_o have_v commit_v material_a adultery_n with_o sarah_n and_o be_v reprove_v in_o a_o dream_n plead_v the_o innocence_n of_o his_o intention_n god_n acknowledge_v this_o innocence_n and_o say_v for_o i_o also_o withhold_v thou_o from_o sin_v against_o i_o therefore_o i_o suffer_v thou_o not_o to_o touch_v her_o v._o 6._o so_o that_o it_o seem_v the_o act_n have_v be_v a_o sin_n against_o god_n 5._o v_o 5._o notwithstanding_o abimelech_n do_v it_o in_o the_o integrity_n of_o his_o heart_n and_o the_o innocence_n of_o his_o hand_n but_o to_o return_v to_o dr._n hammond_n it_o be_v plain_a he_o have_v hearty_o endeavour_v to_o strain_v his_o charity_n and_o yet_o for_o all_o that_o censure_v the_o papist_n as_o severe_o as_o any_o sober_a protestant_n ever_o do_v and_o the_o reader_n will_v be_v full_o satisfy_v of_o this_o truth_n if_o he_o please_v to_o consult_v for_o it_o will_v be_v too_o much_o to_o transcribe_v the_o etc._n the_o §_o 63._o he_o deliver_v himself_o to_o this_o effect_n to_o worship_v the_o bread_n in_o the_o sacrament_n must_v certain_o be_v idolatry_n in_o the_o literal_a notion_n of_o the_o word_n and_o they_o that_o do_v this_o upon_o any_o the_o subtle_a ground_n that_o by_o any_o error_n or_o mistake_n be_v it_o never_o so_o pious_o take_v up_o believe_v it_o not_o to_o be_v bread_n but_o very_o christ_n incarnate_a and_o thereupon_o worship_n it_o these_o i_o say_v in_o case_n they_o be_v mistake_v though_o they_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n in_o all_o the_o aggravation_n that_o belong_v to_o it_o among_o the_o heathen_a yet_o i_o can_v free_v they_o from_o the_o charge_n of_o worship_v a_o idol_n etc._n etc._n nine_o section_n which_o the_o dr_n have_v write_v upon_o this_o subject_a begin_v §_o 63._o of_o his_o discourse_n of_o idolatry_n i_o assure_v myself_o the_o mild_a censure_n that_o can_v be_v pass_v upon_o the_o defender_n will_v be_v that_o he_o never_o read_v that_o discourse_n but_o he_o think_v he_o have_v lance_v we_o to_o the_o quick_a 32._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 37._o §_o 32._o when_o he_o put_v we_o in_o mind_n of_o our_o forefather_n who_o for_o many_o centurye_n be_v such_o idolater_n as_o we_o make_v the_o present_a papist_n poor_a man_n where_o have_v he_o be_v sleep_v these_o fifty_o year_n that_o he_o know_v not_o this_o stale_a objection_n have_v be_v so_o often_o urge_v and_o answer_v that_o all_o understand_a papist_n be_v now_o ashamed_a to_o make_v use_n of_o it_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o we_o be_v likely_a to_o part_v good_a friend_n for_o he_o tell_v we_o his_o catholic_o grant_v it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o worship_v the_o bread_n if_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v god_n 33._o ibid._n §._o 33._o or_o direct_v the_o outward_a act_n to_o our_o lord_n as_o corporal_o present_v in_o the_o sacrament_n if_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v he_o so_o present_a thus_o instead_o of_o defend_v his_o catholic_n for_o adore_v he_o gracious_o absolve_v the_o protestant_n for_o not_o adore_v as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v of_o submit_v our_o judgement_n to_o the_o church_n that_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n for_o he_o know_v that_o we_o insist_v upon_o it_o that_o popery_n in_o this_o point_n do_v direct_o and_o manifest_o overthrow_v all_o the_o principle_n of_o sense_n of_o reason_n &_o religion_n and_o we_o be_v not_o so_o singular_a in_o this_o opinion_n but_o that_o papist_n themselves_o own_v they_o can_v in_o this_o question_n pretend_v to_o scripture_n without_o first_o defy_v sense_n &_o reason_n in_o the_o last_o section_n the_o defender_n propose_v two_o question_n which_o he_o think_v the_o most_o material_a in_o this_o dispute_n 1._o 34._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 38._o §_o 34._o whether_o the_o popish_a