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quite_o contrary_a upon_o i_o as_o p._n 32._o five_o notorious_o partial_a in_o his_o answer_n all_o the_o book_n through_o reply_v to_o some_o thing_n he_o judge_v weak_a and_o leave_v other_o unanswered_a and_o yet_o vaunt_v over_o the_o whole_a as_o for_o instance_n in_o the_o 4._o cent._n i_o give_v the_o say_n of_o 10_o father_n for_o adult_n baptism_n he_o reply_n only_o to_o 4._o of_o they_o say_v not_o a_o word_n to_o the_o rest_n and_o yet_o conclude_v against_o they_o all_o as_o p._n 6._o etc._n etc._n so_o in_o like_a manner_n as_o to_o the_o 10._o instance_n give_v from_o the_o most_o eminent_a man_n not_o baptize_v till_o age_a though_o the_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n reply_n only_o to_o 4._o and_o not_o a_o word_n to_o the_o other_o 6._o and_o yet_o conclude_v against_o they_o all_o as_o though_o he_o have_v particular_o answer_v to_o they_o as_o p._n 11._o to_o 15._o though_o his_o reply_n as_o you_o will_v find_v be_v as_o insignificant_a in_o both_o as_o his_o 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in_o the_o first_o age_n st._n ambrose_n st._n jerom_n and_o st._n austin_n be_v bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n and_o yet_o not_o baptize_v until_o tâ—eful_a age_n of_o a_o man_n and_o more_o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptise_v any_o child_n be_v not_o at_o all_o report_v by_o any_o credible_a tradition_n the_o other_o be_v mr._n bazter_n baxter_n mr._n baxter_n a_o evidence_n that_o in_o this_o case_n be_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v who_o be_v please_v to_o tell_v we_o in_o a_o very_a late_a piece_n viz._n his_o principle_n of_o love_n p_o 7._o that_o he_o know_v that_o in_o the_o day_n of_o tertullian_n nazienzen_n and_o austin_n man_n have_v liberty_n to_o be_v baptize_v or_o to_o bring_v their_o child_n when_o and_o at_o what_o age_n they_o please_v and_o that_o none_o be_v force_v to_o go_v against_o their_o conscience_n therein_o and_o that_o he_o know_v not_o that_o our_o rule_n or_o religion_n be_v change_v or_o that_o we_o be_v grow_v any_o wise_a or_o better_a than_o they_o and_o again_o christian_n direct_v p._n 827._o thus_o that_o ancient_a christian_n have_v liberty_n to_o let_v their_o child_n stay_v till_o age_n as_o they_o think_v best_a and_o that_o austin_n and_o many_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n be_v baptize_v at_o age_n and_o upon_o the_o whole_a we_o may_v add_v what_o doctor_n barlow_n barlow_n dr._n barlow_n say_v to_o this_o purpose_n pag._n 64._o i_o be_o sure_a that_o in_o the_o primative_a time_n they_o be_v catechumeni_fw-la then_o illuminati_fw-la or_o baptizati_fw-la and_o that_o not_o only_o pagan_n and_o child_n of_o pagan_n convert_v but_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n also_o thus_o we_o have_v go_v through_o our_o first_o four_o century_n and_o the_o proof_n urge_v to_o this_o point_n of_o history_n from_o they_o and_o therein_o i_o hope_v the_o reader_n will_v full_o acquit_v i_o from_o that_o charge_n of_o prevarication_n in_o pervert_v the_o authority_n bring_v by_o i_o to_o witness_v that_o in_o these_o time_n confession_n and_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v hold_v necessary_a to_o precede_v baptism_n divert_v that_o only_o the_o adult_n baptize_v in_o the_o first_o age_n confirm_v by_o divert_v and_o that_o i_o be_o not_o mistake_v nor_o alone_o in_o my_o apprehension_n herein_o i_o shall_v repeat_v a_o few_o both_o of_o the_o ancient_n and_o modern_a writer_n that_o have_v so_o full_o confirm_v the_o truth_n hereof_o affirm_v with_o much_o positiveness_n that_o only_a the_o adult_n upon_o confession_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n in_o these_o first_o time_n walafrid_n strabo_n strabo_n strabo_n in_o rebus_n eccles_n p._n 26._o that_o in_o the_o first_o time_n the_o grace_n of_o baptism_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v give_v to_o they_o only_o who_o be_v come_v to_o that_o integrity_n of_o mind_n and_o body_n that_o they_o can_v know_v and_o understand_v what_o profit_n be_v to_o beget_v by_o baptism_n what_o be_v to_o be_v confess_v and_o believe_v and_o last_o what_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v by_o they_o that_o be_v new_a bear_v in_o christ_n beatus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la in_o anotat_fw-la sup_v tertull._n say_v that_o the_o old_a custom_n be_v that_o those_o that_o be_v come_v to_o their_o full_a growth_n be_v baptize_v with_o the_o bath_n of_o regeneration_n which_o custom_n he_o say_v continue_v for_o some_o of_o the_o first_o age_n rupertus_n rupertus_n rupertus_n in_o his_o 4._o book_n of_o divine_a office_n cap._n 18._o say_v that_o in_o former_a time_n the_o custom_n of_o the_o primative_a church_n be_v that_o they_o administer_v not_o the_o sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n but_o only_o to_o the_o chatecuman_n who_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n rehearse_v the_o same_o jo._n boemus_n boemus_fw-la boemus_fw-la lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr gent._n mor._n it_o be_v in_o time_n past_a say_v he_o the_o custom_n to_o administer_v baptism_n only_o to_o those_o that_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n etc._n etc._n doctor_n hamond_n hamond_n dr._n hamond_n in_o his_o cat._n lib._n 1._o c._n 3._o p._n 23._o say_v that_o all_o man_n be_v instruct_v in_o the_o fundamental_o of_o faith_n ancient_o before_o they_o be_v permit_v to_o be_v baptize_v mr._n baxter_n baxter_n mr._n baxter_n in_o his_o saint_n rest_v part_n 1._o cap._n 8._o sect._n 5._o say_v that_o tertullian_n origen_n and_o cyprian_a who_o live_v in_o the_o 2._o and_o 3._o century_n do_v all_o of_o they_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o primative_a time_n none_o be_v baptise_a without_o a_o express_a covenant_v wherein_o they_o renounce_v the_o world_n flesh_n and_o devil_n and_o engage_v themselves_o and_o promise_v to_o obey_v he_o baptism_n the_o testimony_n for_o adult_n baptism_n after_o infant_n baptism_n be_v enjoin_v 1._o from_o particular_a person_n 1._o that_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n in_o the_o next_o place_n for_o further_a confirmation_n of_o this_o truth_n i_o give_v you_o in_o some_o testimony_n that_o be_v bear_v thereto_o after_o infant_n baptism_n be_v establish_v in_o the_o five_o century_n and_o that_o not_o only_o from_o those_o that_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n but_o from_o those_o that_o own_a and_o practise_v it_o papist_n and_o other_o through_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o century_n of_o the_o first_o i_o produce_v several_a eminent_a man_n as_o particular_a witness_n some_o of_o which_o i_o shall_v mention_v viz_o crescon_n crescon_n cresconius_n pag._n 230._o who_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a baptism_n but_o such_o as_o be_v administer_v after_o faith_n faustus_n faustus_n faustus_n regienses_n pag._n 230._o that_o personal_a and_o actual_a desire_n be_v requisite_a in_o every_o one_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v albanus_n albanus_n albanus_n who_o be_v put_v to_o death_n for_o his_o witness_n hereto_o p._n 230._o these_o eminent_a people_n call_v swermer_n swermer_n the_o swermer_n in_o the_o six_o century_n that_o from_o christ_n example_n of_o baptism_n reprove_v the_o evil_a custom_n of_o infant_n baptism_n p._n 231_o apamen_n bishop_n of_o apamen_n the_o bishop_n of_o apamen_n and_o zoroaras_n who_o do_v defend_v the_o baptism_n of_o believer_n to_o be_v the_o only_a baptism_n pag._n 231._o adrianus_n adrianus_n adrianus_n bishop_n of_o corinth_n in_o the_o 7._o century_n who_o do_v stout_o defend_v believer_n baptism_n not_o permit_v a_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v in_o his_o diocese_n page_n 231._o hinemar_n hinemar_n hinemarus_fw-la bishop_n of_o laudum_fw-la refuse_v infant_n baptize_v only_a believer_n 235._o the_o egyptian_a divine_n divine_n egyptian_a divine_n in_o the_o seven_o century_n teach_v faâ—th_n before_o baptism_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o romish_a baptism_n p._n 232._o carolus_n carolus_n carolus_n bishop_n of_o maylant_a teach_v that_o only_a such_o as_o be_v instruct_v and_o confess_v faith_n and_o manifest_v a_o holy_a life_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v jacob_n de_fw-fr roor_n roor_n jacob_n de_fw-fr roor_n own_v only_o that_o 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deny_v infant_n baptism_n witness_v for_o â—â—lievers_n oâ—â—â—â—_n beside_o many_o particular_a person_n a_o account_n of_o several_a church_n that_o have_v in_o their_o principle_n and_o practice_n confirm_v this_o of_o believer_n baptism_n after_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o which_o be_v as_o follow_v the_o donatist_n donatist_n 1._o donatist_n that_o teach_v that_o none_o shall_v be_v baptize_v but_o those_o that_o believe_v and_o desire_v the_o same_o p._n 222._o the_o waldenses_n â—â—â—dense_n 2._o â—â—â—dense_n that_o teach_v that_o by_o baptism_n the_o believer_n weâ—e_v receive_v into_o the_o holy_a congregation_n there_o protest_v and_o declare_v open_o their_o faith_n and_o amendment_n of_o life_n p._n 239._o german_n 3._o german_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o germany_n own_v and_o contend_v for_o this_o faith_n and_o practice_v and_o many_o seal_v the_o same_o with_o their_o blood_n p._n 157._o helvetian_o 4._o helvetian_o the_o church_n in_o helvetia_n assert_v the_o same_o
say_v he_o be_v false_a for_o he_o himself_o add_v the_o word_n only_o as_o be_v show_v he_o say_v ch_z 7._o part_n 1._o p._n 2._o charge_v 3._o falshood_n charge_v where_o he_o again_o repeat_v it_o say_v that_o the_o magdeburg_n in_o century_n 1._o l._n 2._o c._n 6._o p._n 496._o do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n baptize_v only_o the_o adult_n and_o again_o in_o his_o pag._n 38._o mention_v my_o repetition_n of_o that_o aforesaid_a say_n of_o the_o magdeburg_n give_v the_o follow_a return_n very_o good_a sir_n now_o you_o have_v learned_a to_o set_v down_o thing_n right_a but_o why_o do_v you_o say_v in_o the_o 56._o of_o the_o first_o impression_n that_o the_o magdeburg_n as_o to_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o only_o baptize_v the_o adult_n be_v this_o say_v he_o lapsus_fw-la calami_fw-la aut_fw-la mentis_fw-la the_o slip_n of_o the_o tongue_n or_o the_o mind_n answer_v ∣_o ed._n 1_o to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v most_o manifest_a that_o this_o injurious_a man_n do_v charge_v a_o falsehood_n of_o his_o own_o make_n upon_o i_o three_o several_a time_n for_o he_o can_v find_v no_o such_o word_n in_o my_o book_n my_o word_n be_v express_o thus_o viz._n as_o to_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n they_o viz._n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o find_v they_o baptise_a only_a the_o adult_n or_o age_a etc._n etc._n i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o baptise_a only_o the_o adult_n these_o be_v his_o word_n but_o that_o they_o tell_v we_o they_o find_v they_o baptize_v only_o the_o adult_n for_o so_o they_o tell_v we_o they_o find_v example_n for_o the_o one_o not_o for_o the_o other_o and_o if_o i_o have_v not_o guess_v right_o let_v any_o sober_a man_n in_o his_o sense_n judge_v they_o tell_v we_o in_o these_o word_n bapt_n zatos_fw-la esse_fw-la adultos_fw-la tum_fw-la judaeos_fw-la tum_fw-la geâ—tâ—s_fw-la exempla_fw-la pâ—obunt_fw-la act._n 2.8_o 10_o 16_o 19_o de_fw-fr infantibus_fw-la baptizatis_fw-la quidem_fw-la anotata_fw-la nom_fw-fr leguntur_fw-la that_o example_n testify_v from_o the_o aforesaid_a scripture_n that_o the_o adult_n both_o jew_n and_o gentile_n be_v baptize_v but_o of_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n they_o read_v not_o of_o one_o example_n upon_o record_n so_o that_o if_o they_o find_v many_o example_n for_o the_o one_o and_o none_o for_o the_o other_o well_o it_o may_v be_v say_v they_o find_v example_n only_o for_o the_o one_o viz._n for_o the_o adultâ—_n answer_v ∣_o ed._n two_o for_o they_o be_v not_o my_o translation_n of_o the_o word_n and_o therefore_o i_o add_v not_o the_o word_n only_a to_o they_o as_o he_o false_o suggest_v but_o my_o fence_n upon_o those_o their_o word_n and_o no_o other_o than_o i_o presume_v every_o one_o will_v give_v and_o wherein_o his_o shameful_a oscitancy_n as_o he_o call_v it_o or_o heedlessness_n be_v the_o more_o to_o be_v remark_v for_o he_o himself_o in_o his_o first_o word_n of_o the_o 7._o chap._n 1._o part_n do_v repeat_v my_o word_n as_o i_o express_v they_o viz._n that_o they_o find_v only_o the_o adult_n or_o age_a whether_o jew_n or_o gentile_n baptize_v in_o that_o century_n and_o afterward_o charge_v i_o three_o time_n over_o with_o the_o say_n a_o other_o thing_n inculcate_v it_o with_o many_o agrivate_a circumstance_n and_o as_o worthy_a of_o the_o great_a observation_n put_v it_o in_o the_o van_n of_o the_o falsehood_n and_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o thing_n that_o i_o meet_v with_o from_o a_o friend_n that_o be_v in_o his_o bookseller_n shop_n where_o some_o minister_n be_v hear_v to_o say_v upon_o the_o read_n thereof_o that_o i_o want_v morality_n in_o so_o deal_v with_o author_n though_o true_o if_o i_o have_v say_v the_o word_n i_o do_v no_o know_v where_o such_o a_o heinous_a crime_n have_v lie_v so_o that_o this_o be_v plain_a to_o you_o that_o first_o i_o neither_o say_v those_o word_n nor_o second_o do_v i_o add_v the_o word_n only_o to_o the_o author_n in_o the_o next_o place_n in_o his_o preface_n he_o tell_v we_o of_o two_o other_o misrepresentation_n viz._n that_o i_o say_v the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n in_o water_n be_v change_v into_o sprinkle_v a_o little_a water_n in_o the_o face_n in_o the_o first_o century_n whereas_o there_o be_v not_o as_o he_o say_v the_o least_o hint_n of_o this_o matter_n in_o this_o century_n nor_o the_o follow_v but_o the_o contrary_a for_o they_o tell_v we_o as_o pag._n 4._o part_n 1._o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v abluo_fw-la luo_o viz._n to_o wash_v and_o that_o the_o christian_a baptism_n be_v take_v from_o the_o jewish_a wash_n of_o which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v heb._n 9_o 10._o divers_a baptism_n and_o so_o say_v he_o the_o author_n father_n that_o upon_o the_o century_n writer_n which_o they_o speak_v not_o wherein_o these_o two_o falsehood_n be_v charge_v 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it_o be_v by_o dip_v in_o these_o word_n viz._n ministrum_fw-la baptismi_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la baptizandos_fw-la immersisse_fw-la seu_fw-la lavasse_fw-la in_fw-la nomine_fw-la patri_fw-la &_o filii_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la probat_fw-la verbum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la immersionem_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la significat_fw-la &_o quoth_v paulus_n immersionem_fw-la illam_fw-la allegorice_n de_fw-fr mortificatione_n &_o resurrectione_n exponit_fw-la rom._n 6._o col._n 2._o et_fw-la phrase_n ille_fw-la quibus_fw-la baptismus_fw-la lavacrum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la eph._n 5_o &_o titus_n 3_o et_fw-la quod_fw-la ananias_n jubet_fw-la paulum_fw-la abluere_fw-la peccatum_fw-la act._n 22._o etc._n etc._n that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v a_o immersion_n or_o dip_v in_o water_n prove_v that_o the_o minister_n of_o baptism_n do_v dip_v or_o immerge_n the_o baptise_a wash_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n and_o that_o paul_n do_v expound_v this_o immersion_n by_o the_o alligorical_a death_n and_o resurrection_n rom._n 6._o and_o col._n 2._o and_o therefore_o baptism_n be_v call_v the_o lavar_n or_o wash_v of_o regeneration_n ephes_n 5._o and_o tit._n 3._o and_o that_o ananias_n command_v paul_n to_o wash_v away_o his_o sin_n the_o truth_n hereof_o master_n will_n can_v not_o but_o know_v and_o no_o other_o than_o i_o do_v before_o in_o substance_n declare_v and_o therefore_o for_o he_o to_o say_v that_o they_o do_v not_o say_v this_o but_o the_o contrary_a be_v to_o i_o wonderful_a strange_a neither_o do_v they_o mention_v any_o thing_n of_o all_o those_o ten_o line_n of_o his_o say_v to_o be_v in_o this_o place_n as_o though_o they_o take_v the_o word_n to_o signify_v wash_v in_o opposition_n to_o dip_v and_o if_o in_o any_o other_o part_n of_o the_o book_n they_o do_v say_v so_o it_o will_v but_o discover_v a_o contradiction_n to_o themselves_o but_o especial_o to_o the_o truth_n that_o with_o so_o much_o evidence_n they_o have_v here_o demonstrate_v therefore_o what_o apparent_a injury_n this_o be_v let_v all_o man_n judge_v answer_v ∣_o ed._n 4_o and_o as_o to_o the_o other_o it_o be_v as_o notorious_a as_o this_o for_o i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n be_v change_v into_o sprinkle_v etc._n etc._n this_o century_n as_o he_o father_n upon_o i_o all_o that_o i_o say_v be_v this_o and_o they_o be_v my_o own_o word_n not_o they_o after_o i_o have_v mention_v their_o understanding_n of_o that_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n and_o usage_n thereof_o in_o scripture_n viz._n which_o say_v custom_n of_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n in_o water_n be_v change_v into_o sprinkle_v a_o little_a water_n
practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n fail_v none_o prove_v it_o high_o by_o any_o approve_a author_n than_o the_o four_o or_o five_o century_n and_o then_o no_o other_o baptism_n then_o have_v be_v renounce_v by_o most_o protestant_n as_o corrupt_v and_o erroneus_fw-la and_o that_o however_o the_o papist_n and_o those_o that_o go_v their_o way_n may_v prove_v antiquity_n as_o high_a as_o the_o four_o or_o five_o century_n yet_o that_o mr._n will_n can_v go_v no_o high_o for_o his_o then_o new_a england_n or_o at_o the_o further_a then_o luther_n chap._n iii_o wherein_o the_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v vindicate_v from_o mr._n will_n exception_n the_o witness_n produce_v by_o i_o against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v either_o particular_a person_n or_o church_n as_o you_o have_v they_o at_o large_a mention_v in_o the_o seven_o chapter_n and_o first_o as_o to_o the_o evidence_n from_o particular_a person_n mr._n will_n in_o his_o preface_n tell_v we_o person_n 1._o from_o particular_a person_n that_o notwithstanding_o all_o the_o flourish_n mr._n d._n make_v and_o the_o numerous_a quotation_n he_o have_v fetch_v from_o the_o magdeburgensian_a history_n in_o his_o seven_o chapter_n from_o the_o first_o century_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o twelf_v there_o be_v but_o two_o person_n to_o be_v find_v against_o infant_n baptism_n viz._n adrianus_n and_o hincmarus_n whole_a mr._n will_n own_v bâ—t_v two_o in_o the_o whole_a which_o be_v just_a the_o same_o number_n he_o be_v please_v to_o allow_v i_o before_o for_o believer_n baptism_n but_o whether_o these_o and_o their_o fellow_n may_v not_o speed_v as_o well_o as_o the_o former_a shall_v be_v put_v to_o as_o fair_a a_o trial_n and_o so_o submit_v to_o judgement_n the_o first_o of_o my_o witness_n urge_v against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v tertullian_n who_o do_v witness_n tertullian_n thc_n first_o witness_n as_o express_v pag._n 221._o eminent_o oppose_v it_o in_o six_o argument_n first_o from_o the_o 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be_v the_o only_a proper_a subject_n of_o baptism_n and_o to_o which_o we_o may_v add_v a_o seven_o which_o he_o be_v please_v so_o false_o to_o say_v i_o purposely_o and_o subtle_o omit_v there_o be_v no_o cause_n for_o it_o that_o i_o know_v viz._n from_o the_o insignificancy_n of_o the_o end_n propound_v for_o the_o same_o viz._n to_o take_v away_o sin_n from_o child_n wit_n mr._n will_n own_v tertullia_n wit_n to_o which_o testimony_n in_o the_o first_o place_n he_o give_v we_o this_o acknowledgement_n pag._n 96._o viz._n that_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v that_o tertullian_n who_o be_v the_o first_o writer_n of_o note_n in_o the_o latin_a church_n have_v divers_a passage_n seem_o against_o infant_n baptism_n but_o yet_o withal_o it_o must_v be_v consider_v that_o his_o testimony_n such_o as_o it_o be_v be_v but_o the_o testimony_n of_o one_o single_a dr._n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o general_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n where_o by_o the_o way_n we_o may_v take_v notice_n that_o 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of_o pope_n celestine_n against_o they_o for_o the_o same_o twelfethly_fw-mi the_o decree_n and_o bloody_a act_n of_o pope_n innocent_a the_o three_o against_o they_o for_o the_o same_o the_o writing_n also_o of_o several_a learned_a man_n of_o these_o time_n that_o oppose_v the_o waldenses_n in_o this_o point_n and_o charge_v the_o whole_a party_n therewith_o viz._n eckbertus_n erbrardus_n ermigendus_n cluniacenses_fw-la bernard_n durandus_fw-la thomas_n walden_n and_o to_o who_o we_o add_v some_o other_o of_o great_a eminency_n that_o have_v come_v to_o hand_n viz._n ermingerdus_fw-fr ermingerdus_fw-fr ermingerdus_n who_o write_v his_o book_n contra_fw-la waldenses_n in_o this_o age_n wherein_o he_o charge_v they_o in_o these_o word_n dicunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la quod_fw-la nulli_fw-la nisi_fw-la proprio_fw-la ore_fw-la &_o cord_n hoc_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la pâ—tat_fw-la potest_fw-la prodesse_fw-la ind_n adducentes_fw-la hunc_fw-la errorem_fw-la quod_fw-la parvulis_fw-la baptismus_fw-la aquae_fw-la nihil_fw-la prosit_fw-la they_o say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n can_v profit_v none_o but_o those_o who_o with_o their_o own_o proper_a mouth_n and_o heart_n desire_v the_o same_o from_o whence_o they_o draw_v the_o error_n that_o water_n baptism_n be_v not_o profitable_a to_o little_a child_n vet._n bib._n pat._n tom._n 5._o p._n 1250._o and_o rainerius_n rainerius_n rainerius_n in_o his_o book_n contra_fw-la waldenses_n say_v de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quod_fw-la ablutio_fw-la quae_fw-la datur_fw-la infantibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la profit_n item_n quod_fw-la patrini_fw-la non_fw-la intelligent_a quià _fw-la respondeant_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la concern_v baptism_n they_o say_v that_o that_o which_o be_v give_v to_o little_a child_n profit_v nothing_o and_o that_o the_o gossip_n understand_v not_o their_o response_n to_o the_o priest_n bib._n patr._n tom._n 13._o pag._n 300_o 301_o etc._n etc._n and_o which_o evidence_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o 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be_v evidence_n as_o he_o suppose_v against_o the_o former_a decree_n infer_v that_o those_o mention_v to_o be_v make_v before_o that_o time_n be_v before_o they_o be_v a_o people_n and_o second_o in_o pag._n 60._o say_v that_o tâ—eâ—e_n be_v no_o convince_a proof_n to_o be_v fetch_v from_o hence_o of_o their_o be_v against_o â—_z baptism_n because_o they_o be_v their_o enemy_n calumniate_a malicious_a papist_n that_o load_v they_o with_o all_o manner_n of_o reproach_n to_o render_v they_o odious_a and_o that_o unless_o some_o one_o do_v out_o of_o their_o one_o mouth_n give_v better_a evidence_n he_o shall_v believe_v with_o mr._n marshal_n that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o oppose_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v a_o innovation_n no_o ancient_a than_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o germany_n and_o for_o which_o he_o quote_v joseph_n vicecomes_a l._n 2._o c._n 1._o pag._n 103._o in_o mr._n wâ—llâ—_n pag._n 60._o 2._o part_n time_n 1._o waldense_a so_o call_v from_o the_o 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etc._n and_o to_o the_o second_o that_o there_o be_v convince_a proof_n offer_v from_o the_o decree_n of_o pope_n king_n and_o counsel_n grant_n mr._n marshal_n grant_n let_v mr._n marshal_n grant_v suffice_v who_o in_o pag._n 63._o of_o his_o defence_n for_o infant_n baptism_n say_v thus_o i_o shall_v desire_v you_o to_o show_v that_o any_o company_n nr_v seâ—t_o if_o you_o will_v so_o call_v they_o have_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n produce_v if_o you_o can_v any_o of_o their_o confession_n allege_v any_o act_n of_o any_o counsel_n where_o this_o doctrine_n be_v charge_v upon_o any_o and_o condemn_v in_o that_o council_n and_o which_o i_o presume_v be_v substantial_o do_v both_o from_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n and_o from_o act_n of_o counsel_n also_o where_o such_o be_v condemn_v and_o as_o to_o that_o quotation_n out_o of_o vicecome_v to_o prove_v that_o none_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n till_o the_o german_a anabaptist_n i_o hearty_o thank_v he_o for_o it_o which_o you_o 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