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A31043 The nonconformists vindicated from the abuses put upon them by Mr. [brace] Durel and Scrivener being some short animadversions on their books soon after they came forth : in two letters to a friend (who could not hitherto get them published) : containing some remarques upon the celebrated conference at Hampton-Court / by a country scholar. Barrett, William, 17th cent. 1679 (1679) Wing B915; ESTC R37068 137,221 250

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that_o private_a baptism_n shall_v be_v perform_v by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o parish_n or_o in_o his_o absence_n by_o any_o other_o lawful_a minister_n that_o can_v be_v procure_v now_o any_o man_n will_v think_v lay_v person_n be_v not_o allow_v to_o baptise_v but_o dr._n heylin_n in_o his_o introduction_n to_o the_o life_n of_o archbishop_n laud_n page_n 27._o say_v that_o the_o alteration_n be_v great_a in_o sound_n than_o sense_n it_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o many_o great_a clerk_n that_o any_o man_n in_o case_n of_o necessity_n that_o be_v extreme_a who_o can_v but_o pronounce_v the_o word_n of_o baptism_n may_v pass_v in_o the_o account_n and_o notion_n of_o a_o lawful_a minister_n a_o prodigious_a assertion_n for_o a_o turk_n or_o jew_n may_v pronounce_v the_o word_n of_o baptism_n be_v he_o a_o lawful_a minister_n of_o baptism_n do_v ever_o any_o that_o pretend_v to_o reverence_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n thus_o wrest_v her_o word_n but_o to_o return_v to_o 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