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A27032 A second admonition to Mr. Edward Bagshaw written to call him to repentance for many false doctrines, crimes, and specially fourscore palpable untruths in matter of fact ... : with a confutation of his reasons for separation ... / by Richard Baxter ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1671 (1671) Wing B1400; ESTC R16242 98,253 234

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mr._n hildershams_n acknowledgement_n of_o god_n authority_n above_o man_n against_o mr._n hildershams_n argument_n against_o separation_n and_o his_o persuasion_n to_o come_v to_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n prayer_n and_o to_o imply_v that_o you_o know_v more_o than_o those_o worthy_a man_n when_o you_o give_v the_o world_n so_o little_a evidence_n of_o it_o do_v prove_v the_o goodness_n of_o your_o cause_n as_o much_o as_o it_o prove_v your_o humility_n or_o self-acquaintance_n sect._n 55._o e._n b._n p._n 17_o 18._o ignorance_n the_o former_a non-conformists'_a hold_v arminianism_n so_o fundamental_a and_o dangerous_a a_o error_n etc._n etc._n but_o you_o do_v not_o only_o speak_v favourable_o of_o it_o but_o also_o proud_o tell_v we_o that_o you_o be_v confident_a not_o one_o of_o many_o hundred_o who_o speak_v against_o communion_n with_o arminian_n do_v understand_v what_o arminianism_n be_v as_o if_o plain_a christian_n can_v not_o easy_o come_v to_o know_v it_o r._n b._n 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this_o day_n tell_v what_o they_o mean_v nor_o in_o many_o or_o most_o point_n wherein_o they_o differ_v when_o this_o man_n and_o his_o plain_a follower_n woman_n and_o boy_n so_o easy_o know_v it_o but_o like_o the_o pope_n that_o can_v infallible_o expound_v the_o scripture_n but_o be_v so_o wise_a that_o he_o will_v not_o do_v it_o le_fw-fr blank_n and_o many_o more_o may_v have_v spare_v their_o pain_n of_o right_n state_v the_o controversy_n if_o they_o have_v this_o man_n key_n i_o never_o yet_o meet_v with_o the_o man_n that_o can_v but_o make_v i_o well_o understand_v what_o it_o be_v that_o be_v mean_v by_o freewill_n nor_o what_o by_o the_o power_n which_o they_o dispute_v of_o to_o do_v good_a much_o less_o open_v all_o their_o meaning_n de_fw-fr scientia_fw-la media_fw-la de_fw-la concursu_fw-la prae-determination_n etc._n etc._n but_o here_o be_v one_o can_v easy_o tell_v we_o all_o but_o i_o warrant_v he_o he_o will_v not_o some_o man_n alas_o and_o some_o treacher_n will_v be_v wise_a and_o humble_a in_o despite_n of_o wisdom_n and_o humility_n and_o christian_n in_o despite_n of_o love_n unity_n and_o peace_n sect._n 56._o e._n b._n p._n 18._o his_o own_o freewill_n have_v not_o the_o least_o power_n to_o receive_v the_o thing_n of_o god_n r._n b._n 1._o what_o not_o sanctify_v freewill_n 2._o what!_o not_o a_o receive_v obediential_a power_n a_o receive_a power_n be_v a_o passive_a power_n as_o it_o be_v strict_o take_v have_v a_o free-agent_n less_o power_n to_o receive_v grace_n than_o a_o marble_n to_o receive_v the_o engrave_v of_o the_o workman_n do_v no_o man_n ever_o receive_v grace_n or_o do_v they_o receive_v what_o they_o can_v receive_v have_v a_o man_n no_o more_o receptive_a power_n than_o a_o block_n or_o stone_n i_o know_v its_o say_a the_o natural_a man_n receive_v not_o etc._n etc._n that_o be_v understand_v not_o believe_v not_o and_o love_v not_o in_o sensu_fw-la composito_fw-la but_o it_o be_v never_o say_v that_o our_o freewill_n have_v not_o the_o least_o power_n to_o receive_v but_o i_o have_v say_v so_o much_o of_o this_o and_o the_o next_o point_n the_o badness_n of_o nature_n to_o which_o he_o give_v not_o any_o answer_n at_o all_o that_o i_o wonder_v that_o the_o man_n think_v that_o one_o that_o be_v all_o tongue_n and_o no_o ear_n or_o eye_n be_v fit_a for_o credit_n or_o humane_a converse_n sect._n 57_o e._n b._n you_o pernicious_a jesuit_n like_v be_v not_o afraid_a to_o say_v the_o scripture_n tell_v we_o not_o sufficient_o and_o particular_o which_o book_n in_o itself_o be_v canonical_a nor_o that_o the_o various_a readins_n be_v the_o right_a nor_o whether_o every_o text_n be_v bring_v to_o we_o uncorrupted_a r._n b._n 1._o and_o by_o imply_v your_o assertion_n of_o the_o contrary_a you_o become_v a_o false_a teacher_n of_o pernicious_a doctrine_n as_o if_o you_o design_v to_o make_v man_n jesuit_n or_o infidel_n by_o renounce_v the_o scripture_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o find_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o sufficient_o there_o do_v and_o thence_o to_o be_v prove_v without_o subordinate_a testimony_n 2._o why_o do_v not_o you_o save_v such_o as_o dr._n j._n reignolds_n chamier_n and_o other_o their_o great_a labour_n and_o prove_v out_o of_o scripture_n itself_o which_o of_o all_o the_o various_a reading_n mention_v by_o beza_n capelus_fw-la and_o other_o and_o find_v in_o various_a copy_n be_v the_o right_a and_o so_o of_o the_o rest_n sect._n 58._o e._n b._n so_o that_o in_o effect_v you_o do_v resolve_v the_o credit_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n into_o the_o truth_n of_o church-history_n which_o word_n be_v so_o contrary_a to_o the_o true_a protestant_a doctrine_n so_o full_o agree_v with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o jesuit_n etc._n etc._n r._n b._n 1._o as_o to_o agree_v with_o the_o jesuit_n full_o untruth_n etc._n etc._n all_o that_o know_v their_o write_n know_v it_o be_v a_o untruth_n 2._o true_a protestant_n usual_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n that_o 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and_o when_o my_o word_n plain_o express_v this_o sense_n with_o what_o face_n can_v this_o man_n not_o only_o put_v other_o word_n upon_o i_o which_o be_v none_o of_o my_o own_o but_o also_o another_o sense_n and_o a_o sense_n clean_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n and_o this_o to_o justify_v a_o former_a falsehood_n and_o this_o after_o that_o in_o divers_a write_n i_o have_v full_o and_o plain_o dispute_v of_o original_a sin_n as_o it_o be_v the_o corruption_n of_o the_o superior_a faculty_n and_o in_o divers_a book_n about_o conversion_n show_v the_o necessity_n of_o the_o cleanse_n and_o renew_v of_o those_o faculty_n and_o here_o the_o word_n only_a be_v before_o his_o eye_n a_o confutation_n of_o his_o calumny_n sect._n 62._o e._n b._n and_o indeed_o sir_n that_o i_o may_v confess_v a_o secret_a to_o you_o this_o very_a passage_n of_o you_o i_o look_v on_o as_o so_o conceit_v and_o singular_a and_o many_o year_n ago_o it_o give_v i_o so_o great_a offence_n that_o i_o throw_v 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b._n p._n 26._o i_o be_o much_o confirm_v in_o that_o judgement_n of_o your_o book_n since_o a_o person_n yet_o live_v and_o one_o worthy_a of_o credit_n accuaint_v i_o that_o when_o the_o learned_a and_o judicious_a mr._n herle_n have_v read_v that_o cryed-up_a book_n of_o you_o he_o tell_v he_o it_o have_v be_v happy_a for_o the_o church_n of_o god_n if_o your_o friend_n have_v never_o send_v you_o to_o school_n mr._n cawdry_n have_v the_o same_o opinion_n of_o it_o and_o another_o person_n as_o know_v in_o the_o mystery_n of_o godliness_n as_o either_o of_o they_o tell_v a_o friend_n of_o i_o that_o notwithstanding_o the_o noise_n about_o you_o you_o will_v end_v in_o flesh_n and_o blood_n r._n b._n 1._o a_o worthy_a
question_n what_o a_o book_n be_v which_o you_o never_o read_v i_o will_v help_v you_o out_o and_o mend_v your_o cause_n you_o dispraise_v it_o that_o never_o read_v it_o and_o you_o name_v some_o that_o read_v it_o and_o dispraise_v it_o and_o i_o that_o write_v it_o be_o far_o from_o praise_v it_o therefore_o i_o hope_v you_o be_v gratify_v and_o who_o will_v now_o contradict_v you_o though_o i_o confess_v for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o think_v i_o shall_v not_o think_v myself_o fit_a to_o tell_v the_o world_n in_o print_n what_o any_o man_n book_n be_v at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o i_o confess_v that_o i_o never_o read_v it_o but_o you_o may_v possible_o avoid_v that_o way_n because_o it_o be_v i_o 2._o but_o he_o that_o employ_v you_o shall_v miss_v of_o his_o design_n of_o engage_v i_o against_o the_o name_n of_o mr._n herle_v and_o mr._n cawdrey_n and_o against_o your_o unnamed_a person_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o i_o that_o i_o honour_v their_o name_n and_o abhort_a all_o motion_n contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o christian_a love_n but_o i_o be_v not_o bind_v that_o they_o shall_v love_v or_o honour_v i_o and_o if_o they_o do_v not_o that_o be_v not_o my_o sin_n but_o if_o my_o sin_n deserve_v it_o i_o have_v far_o great_a account_n on_o which_o to_o be_v displease_v with_o that_o sin_n and_o i_o do_v with_o hearty_a willingness_n hear_v the_o prophecy_n of_o he_o that_o tell_v your_o friend_n i_o will_v end_v in_o flesh_n and_o blood_n to_o awaken_v i_o the_o more_o to_o the_o necessary_a fear_n and_o vigilancy_n lest_o his_o prophecy_n shall_v prove_v true_a but_o whether_o these_o story_n be_v true_a or_o not_o it_o little_a concern_v i_o to_o inquire_v if_o they_o be_v not_o i_o pray_v name_n not_o the_o reporter_n or_o witness_n sect._n 64._o e._n b._n you_o have_v promise_v i_o that_o you_o will_v make_v no_o reply_n r._n b._n it_o be_v but_o conditional_o if_o you_o write_v at_o the_o former_a rate_n and_o your_o alteration_n by_o venture_v to_o dispute_v for_o separation_n have_v declare_v i_o not_o oblige_v and_o because_o i_o fear_v you_o be_v by_o those_o word_n encourage_v the_o more_o to_o all_o your_o untruth_n i_o will_v promise_v you_o silence_n no_o more_o though_o i_o purpose_v it_o i_o have_v do_v this_o that_o you_o may_v have_v a_o second_o admonition_n to_o repent_v and_o the_o simple_a may_v not_o believe_v your_o multiply_a falsehood_n but_o now_o he_o that_o will_v be_v hereafter_o deceive_v by_o you_o let_v he_o be_v deceive_v sect._n 65._o e._n b._n 20._o when_o you_o write_v next_o i_o entreat_v 1._o that_o you_o will_v be_v short_a 2._o and_o significant_a r._n b._n your_o counsel_n be_v prudent_a sir_n but_o all_o man_n can_v attain_v to_o your_o exactness_n and_o significancy_n nor_o will_v i_o follow_v your_o rule_n till_o i_o see_v better_a effect_n of_o it_o nor_o pretend_v brevity_n for_o leave_v a_o book_n almost_o whole_o unanswered_a which_o i_o pretend_v to_o answer_v as_o you_o do_v and_o i_o will_v better_o show_v that_o i_o understand_v common_a english_a before_o i_o call_v to_o other_o for_o significancy_n sect._n 66._o e._n b._n 1._o that_o you_o will_v not_o mistake_v the_o thing_n you_o write_v about_o but_o labour_v clear_o to_o understand_v the_o question_n r._n b._n but_o i_o will_v not_o undertake_v to_o make_v you_o understand_v it_o sect._n 67._o e._n b._n do_v not_o ramble_v and_o talk_v of_o nature_n as_o it_o be_v pure_a employ_v when_o you_o shall_v write_v about_o nature_n corrupt_v r._n b._n 1._o remember_v that_o it_o be_v not_o you_o but_o i_o that_o be_o the_o respondent_fw-la and_o have_v the_o state_v of_o the_o question_n here_o therefore_o be_v two_o more_o falsehood_n intimate_v 1._o that_o the_o question_n be_v only_o about_o nature_n as_o corrupt_v 2._o that_o i_o speak_v of_o nature_n as_o pure_a and_o not_o as_o corrupt_v for_o the_o question_n put_v by_o i_o be_v about_o nature_n as_o nature_n and_o that_o man_n shall_v not_o so_o speak_v against_o the_o corruption_n as_o to_o dishonour_v god_n part_n nature_n as_o nature_n nor_o yet_o as_o it_o be_v corrupt_v to_o make_v it_o worse_o than_o it_o be_v so_o that_o i_o speak_v not_o of_o it_o as_o pure_a but_o i_o speak_v of_o it_o both_o abstract_o as_o nature_n and_o also_o as_o corrupt_v sect._n 68_o e._n b._n do_v not_o discourse_v about_o freewill_n at_o large_a when_o you_o shall_v only_o handle_v freewill_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n r._n b._n this_o imply_v another_o untruth_n employ_v that_o i_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o freewill_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n to_o forbear_v the_o break_n of_o some_o of_o god_n law_n and_o to_o do_v somewhat_o command_v be_v the_o thing_n of_o god_n i_o show_v that_o man_n have_v some_o freewill_n to_o forbear_v murder_n adultery_n theft_n treason_n perjury_n perfecution_n yea_o and_o write_v falsehood_n if_o not_o why_o do_v you_o cry_v out_o of_o persecution_n silence_v atheism_n when_o man_n have_v not_o the_o least_o freewill_n to_o forbear_v they_o why_o do_v you_o refuse_v the_o imputation_n of_o your_o own_o untruth_n if_o you_o have_v not_o the_o least_o freewill_n to_o forbear_v they_o your_o word_n be_v now_o we_o see_v one_o firm_a reason_n to_o deny_v the_o least_o allowance_n of_o freewill_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n since_o those_o that_o hold_v it_o in_o any_o degree_n the_o synod_n of_o dort_n teach_v other_o doctrine_n and_o so_o do_v mr._n fenner_n in_o his_o book_n of_o wilful_a impenitence_n and_o in_o the_o second_o sheet_n of_o mr._n dod_n saying_n when_o one_o have_v be_v restrain_v from_o swear_v at_o dinner_n by_o his_o presence_n contrary_a to_o his_o use_n he_o take_v occasion_n to_o show_v that_o man_n can_v do_v more_o than_o they_o do_v and_o can_v forbear_v more_o evil_a than_o they_o forbear_v sect._n 69._o e._n b._n and_o because_o many_o professor_n of_o christianity_n be_v ignorant_a and_o injudicious_a do_v not_o think_v that_o therefore_o you_o do_v well_o to_o call_v christian_n notorious_a consider_v as_o christian_n so_o these_o be_v evident_a and_o apparent_a sophism_n which_o abound_v in_o your_o last_o treatise_n r._n b._n these_o be_v deliberate_v write_v word_n and_o if_o all_o this_o be_v the_o mere_a fiction_n of_o your_o brain_n if_o i_o have_v not_o one_o syllable_n that_o have_v any_o such_o importance_n nor_o one_o word_n in_o my_o book_n have_v the_o least_o show_n of_o such_o a_o thing_n nay_o if_o the_o clean_a contrary_n be_v most_o open_o and_o plain_o express_v in_o they_o and_o yet_o rather_o than_o confess_v your_o former_a falsehood_n you_o fear_v not_o before_o god_n and_o man_n to_o second_v it_o with_o this_o most_o immodest_a additional_a forgery_n which_o have_v no_o cloak_n let_v your_o reader_n judge_n and_o let_v your_o conscience_n judge_v at_o last_o whether_o repentance_n be_v your_o duty_n he_o that_o say_v christian_n consider_v as_o christian_n be_v ignorant_a injudicious_a etc._n etc._n lay_v his_o charge_n on_o christianity_n more_o than_o on_o the_o man_n have_v you_o no_o way_n to_o hide_v your_o former_a falsehood_n but_o by_o this_o impudent_a forgery_n that_o i_o speak_v against_o christianity_n itself_o have_v not_o repentance_n be_v a_o better_a reparation_n of_o your_o prostitute_a honour_n than_o this_o sect._n 70._o e._n b._n do_v not_o love_v to_o jumble_v absurd_a and_o insignificant_a phrase_n together_o as_o to_o say_v a_o defective_a faulty_a true_a church_n r._n b._n reader_n if_o thou_o expect_v that_o he_o shall_v tell_v thou_o the_o absurdity_n or_o insignificancy_n of_o any_o one_o of_o all_o these_o word_n thou_o must_v not_o put_v he_o to_o so_o much_o condescension_n but_o take_v it_o on_o his_o word_n or_o rest_v unsatisfied_a whether_o defective_a or_o faulty_a be_v insignificant_a word_n or_o whether_o no_o true_a church_n be_v defective_a and_o faulty_a if_o you_o believe_v he_o perhaps_o you_o may_v hear_v in_o his_o time_n sect._n 71._o e._n b._n to_o mention_v a_o political_a spiritual_n constitutive_a head_n r._n b._n more_o wisdom_n still_o which_o of_o these_o be_v the_o nonsense_n dark_a be_v it_o that_o the_o pope_n pretend_v to_o be_v a_o political_a head_n consult_v d._n lud._n moulins_n jugulum_fw-la causae_fw-la and_o all_o goldastus_n his_o three_o volume_n with_o chamier_n rivet_n whitaker_n blondel_n and_o all_o that_o write_v against_o he_o or_o be_v it_o that_o he_o claim_v to_o be_v a_o spiritual_a head_n or_o governor_n then_o all_o his_o own_o defender_n and_o all_o our_o opposer_n of_o he_o wrong_v he_o till_o mr._n bagshaw_n come_v to_o reform_v this_o language_n or_o be_v it_o because_o he_o claim_v not_o to_o be_v the_o constitutive_a head_n of_o the_o church_n ask_v all_o those_o papist_n that_o say_v it_o be_v essential_a
of_o a_o holy_a life_n 5._o that_o brother_n browne_n instruct_v i_o in_o the_o five_o monarchy_n principle_n whereas_o he_o then_o oppose_v it_o answ_n i_o say_v mr._n browne_n and_o other_o be_v her_o instructer_n who_o be_v very_o zealous_a for_o the_o way_n call_v the_o five_o monarchy_n and_o have_v instruct_v she_o in_o those_o opinion_n etc._n etc._n if_o i_o do_v mistake_v here_o i_o recant_v my_o error_n but_o i_o will_v tell_v you_o my_o ground_n 1._o that_o the_o other_o be_v of_o that_o opinion_n as_o they_o deny_v not_o so_o i_o have_v hear_v no_o other_o deny_v 2._o at_o the_o publish_n of_o that_o book_n same_o speak_v the_o same_o of_o mr._n browne_n and_o of_o his_o companion_n 3._o the_o book_n do_v plead_v for_o that_o opinion_n 4._o his_o epistle_n be_v before_o the_o book_n as_o a_o publishing_n applause_n of_o it_o 5._o he_o profess_v that_o opinion_n to_o this_o day_n and_o all_o these_o appearance_n may_v induce_v such_o a_o judgement_n of_o he_o but_o if_o he_o 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untruth_n in_o this_o short_a letter_n and_o four_o at_o least_o of_o her_o accusation_n of_o my_o word_n be_v visible_a untruth_n but_o i_o will_v know_v of_o mr._n e._n b._n or_o she_o whether_o it_o be_v true_a doctrine_n that_o one_o out_o of_o christ_n shall_v not_o eat_v because_o they_o have_v no_o right_n and_o whether_o almost_o to_o consume_v herself_o with_o famine_n be_v well_o do_v if_o so_o must_v all_o wicked_a man_n do_v so_o if_o it_o be_v false_a doctrine_n as_o undoubted_o it_o be_v i_o further_o ask_v whether_o it_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n or_o satan_n that_o be_v the_o author_n of_o it_o i_o hope_v she_o dare_v not_o father_n sin_n and_o falsehood_n on_o god_n spirit_n and_o if_o it_o be_v a_o temptation_n of_o satan_n as_o it_o be_v i_o ask_v whether_o to_o yield_v so_o far_o to_o a_o temptation_n so_o much_o against_o the_o light_n of_o scripture_n nature_n and_o self-preservation_n in_o a_o case_n so_o plain_a that_o common_a people_n know_v the_o error_n of_o it_o and_o to_o proceed_v so_o long_o almost_o to_o famishment_n in_o that_o error_n and_o sin_n i_o say_v whether_o this_o show_v not_o some_o flaw_n at_o that_o time_n in_o natural_a understanding_n and_o reason_v as_o well_o as_o in_o grace_n if_o it_o do_v as_o sure_o it_o do_v what_o can_v it_o be_v less_o than_o melancholy_a and_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v never_o the_o mind_n of_o mr._n jordan_n or_o mr._n browne_n in_o that_o book_n to_o father_n this_o opinion_n or_o practice_n on_o god_n spirit_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o god_n thus_o oft_o try_v his_o own_o but_o it_o be_v as_o little_a doubt_n but_o that_o he_o oft_o leave_v they_o under_o melancholy_a as_o the_o tempter_n opportunity_n and_o advantage_n and_o its_o pity_n that_o poor_a soul_n shall_v be_v angry_a with_o those_o that_o know_v their_o case_n better_a than_o they_o themselves_o and_o true_o pity_v they_o sect._n 81._o r._n b._n i_o come_v now_o to_o mr._n browne_v letter_n wherein_o i_o will_v not_o reckon_v it_o as_o it_o be_v with_o his_o untruth_n that_o my_o two_o last_o treatise_n give_v great_a occasion_n to_o the_o adversary_n of_o truth_n and_o purity_n to_o reproach_n and_o blaspheme_n god_n and_o his_o people_n for_o the_o man_n speak_v as_o his_o ill_a cause_n and_o principle_n have_v make_v he_o think_v and_o that_o this_o be_v no_o more_o than_o some_o of_o my_o disciple_n have_v suggest_v to_o he_o whether_o it_o be_v true_a or_o false_a i_o know_v not_o what_o man_n that_o i_o have_v be_v eleven_o year_n drive_v from_o may_v be_v draw_v to_o by_o cruelty_n on_o the_o one_o hand_n and_o seducer_n on_o the_o other_o i_o can_v give_v no_o account_n of_o at_o this_o distance_n let_v they_o answer_v for_o themselves_o the_o first_o untruth_n i_o charge_v he_o with_o be_v that_o i_o have_v utter_v many_o falsehood_n of_o himself_o and_o other_o untruth_n the_o case_n be_v anon_o to_o be_v try_v sect._n 82._o mr._n browne_n p._n 27._o how_o the_o present_a conformist_n can_v be_v excuse_v from_o some_o degree_n of_o idolatry_n remain_v to_o be_v better_o prove_v r._n b._n a_o answer_n to_o what_o i_o say_v have_v be_v more_o congruous_a than_o this_o put-off_a and_o that_o you_o take_v it_o for_o no_o rail_a to_o call_v almost_o all_o christ_n church_n on_o earth_n even_o the_o reform_a idolatrous_a and_o yet_o take_v it_o for_o rail_v to_o be_v tell_v that_o you_o so_o accuse_v they_o ignorant_o rash_o and_o self-conceited_o do_v but_o show_v the_o blind_a power_n of_o selfishness_n and_o divide_v principle_n when_o there_o be_v so_o vast_a a_o disparity_n 1._o in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o charge_n 2._o and_o in_o the_o person_n charge_v that_o your_o brother_n bagshaw_n liath_v as_o you_o call_v it_o now_o deceive_v your_o expectation_n and_o wrong_v his_o cause_n that_o be_v have_v be_v fain_o to_o leave_v his_o untruth_n unjustified_a i_o suppose_v you_o can_v deny_v in_o consistence_n with_o your_o own_o expression_n sect._n 83._o mr._n browne_n p._n 28._o untruth_n indeed_n sir_n in_o two_o line_n there_o be_v no_o less_o than_o two_o untruth_n publish_v to_o the_o world_n concern_v i_o the_o first_o be_v that_o i_o be_o the_o author_n and_o publisher_n of_o that_o book_n which_o be_v affirm_v by_o he_o against_o the_o most_o notorious_a evidence_n in_o the_o world_n to_o the_o contrary_a the_o author_n mr._n timothy_n jordain_n and_o all_o that_o i_o do_v be_v be_v desire_v to_o write_v a_o epistle_n wherein_o i_o acquaint_v the_o reader_n that_o i_o be_o not_o the_o author_n of_o it_o but_o only_o do_v join_v in_o testimony_n to_o signify_v what_o be_v record_v in_o the_o ensue_a treatise_n be_v true_a r._n b._n reader_n will_v thou_o think_v it_o possible_a for_o a_o man_n that_o voluminous_o accuse_v the_o church_n and_o charge_v they_o with_o idolatry_n and_o have_v read_v my_o detection_n of_o his_o brother_n untruth_n to_o face_n man_n down_o with_o such_o word_n as_o these_o that_o i_o say_v that_o which_o i_o never_o 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