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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A32820	The ivstification of the independant chvrches of Christ being an answer to Mr. Edvvards his booke, which hee hath written against the government of Christ's chvrch and toleration of Christs, publike worship : briefely declaring that the congregations of the saints ought not to have dependancie in government upon any other : or direction in worship from any other than Christ their head and lavv-giver / by Katherine Chidley.	Chidley, Katherine.	1641 (1641)	Wing C3832; ESTC R5068	79,911	92

you justifie them as men begotten to God and you justifie their standing there Thus doe you sow pillowes of flatteries under their elbowes But you neede not to feare any mans comming to steale your Disciples away by night as the Jewes gave out falsely of Christs naturall body for that was but a lie therefore let no man presume to lie by their example But you say therefore you ought to watch against us and ought not to sleepe least they should be stolne * away I answer so did the Jewes watch the naturall body of Christ and yet he by his power raised himselfe and also departed from them even so by the same power will he raise from the death of sinne many that are amongst you and will cause them to separate themselves from your false worshipping and from you that are false worshippers and he will tell them where he feedeth his sheepe and causeth them to lie downe at noone * Neither can you cleare your selfe by saying you ●i●ty them and love them and would not have such a sword as a tolerátion put into their hands as you are pleased to say to hurt them though some amongst them say you might perhaps use it better I pray you feare not this which you here call an error on the right hand but rather feare your Church if as you say your Liturgie and Ceremonies stand still in force which you say were the causes that bred the Separates * I tell you if the sa ne cause remaine you may justly feare it will take the same effect you have also as great cause to feare the prophanenesse and Atheisme which is seated in the hearts of most of your people but onely that you blesse your selfe in hope that all ignorant and scandalous persons shall be driven out But I pray you tell me whither doe you intend to drive them if you leave them anywhere in the Land they will be still of your Church except you will make you a new Church But if you should drive them out of the Land you would leave many places of the Land uninhabited for the generalitie of the people in most parts be ignorant and prophane and thus you may see your selfe in a great streight and therfore you have great cause to feare Further you say the Author would intimate that the honest soules are with them and would be for their way but as for those that are against their way and Toleration they are not such honest soules If this Author be the Protestation Protested you have wrested his words for he hath not said they are not such honest soules neither hath he entred into judgement against any But further you say you would have them know that the honest soules are not onely with them for in the Church of England say you there ever have beene and are honest Ministers and people that have rejected our way and any that fell to it nay the greatest Nonconformists and most able in that way you say have written the most against our way and laboured upon all occasions to preserve the people from falling to us For answer whereof I must tell you that the Ministers and people were never the honester for ' rejecting of that way which hath beene proved to be the way of God though they were the greatest Nonconformists in the world for it is not our way properly but the gift of the Father which he hath given us to walke in and surely it is no signe of honesty to commend the Saints in their infirmities or to condemne them in their workes of pietie I say it is no signe of an honest soule to speak evill of such a holy way I tell you I take Hugh Latimer to be an honest soule though he have declared both by word and writing against such as you and affirmed that a lay man fearing God is much more fit to understand the holy Scripture then a proud and arrogant Priest yea then the Bishop himselfe be hee never so great and glistering in all his pontificalls and such honest soules though they are not of the Clergie but of those whom you call the Layetie are the fittest men on the earth to make Churches and to chuse their owne Ministers as I said before though they be Trades-men and such as these have dependancie upon Christ alone whose way is properly the sincere way of God And as for any that have writ against this way or against those who walke uprightly in it it will not make much for their account for that part of their worke shall burne as well as yours though they may be saved and as for these Authors which here you bring which have beene so carefull as you say to keepe the people from falling into that way I have reade some of their bookes and found the most of them prophesie sad things against he Church of England except she repent THeir sixth Reason you say is that they are good men and men of great gifts and therefore they should be tolerated to have such Churches it is pitty they should leave the Land and wee loose their prayers Indeede Mr. Edwards this may be some other mans Reason on their behalfe but I hardly beleeve that they lived so farre from good neighbours that they must thus set forth their owne praise But for answer to this Reason in the first place you say the better men they be and the more able the worse to set up separated Churches To this I answer that I ever conceived by the Scripture that those that Christ ordained to plant his Churches were good men as it was said of Barnabas that he was a good man * and the very like was said of Stephen * and therefore me thinks you are shreudly mistaken But further you say they will the more indanger the peace of the Kingdome and make the Schismes greater I answer If it be good and able men that indanger the peace of the Kingdome you may doe well to perswade the Parliament to keepe still in your Church all the dumb and drunken Priests for they are bad enough and unable to doe good and yet of my knowledge they are very able to disturbe the peace and to breed strife and to bring Gods judgements upon the Land which is able to make a greater Schisme than you are a ware of Secondly you say for their prayers you have the benefit of them as well when they are absent as present and some of them have sa● say you they prayed more for England when out of it than in it Indeede if they did so they did well for that was their duty but I suppose you for your particular had little benefit of those prayers and that because God hath hardened your heart even against them and all good men Thirdly For these their prayers you have rewarded them with an accusation namely that they left the Kingdome when it was in greatest danger and in most neede of helpe and provided for