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let_v he_o that_o have_v understanding_n count_v the_o number_n of_o a_o man_n therefore_o the_o great_a antichrist_n that_o egregious_a apostata_fw-la or_o notable_a enemy_n of_o jesus-christ_n shall_v be_v a_o particular_a man_n 1._o john_n 2.22_o who_o be_v a_o liar_n but_o he_o that_o deny_v that_o jesus_n be_v christ_n this_o be_v antichrist_n which_o deny_v the_o father_n &_o the_o son_n but_o the_o pope_n deny_v neither_o of_o both_o therefore_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o antichrist_n again_o in_o 2._o thes_n 2._o before_o allege_v v._n 4._o the_o scripture_n say_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v extol_v above_o all_o that_o be_v call_v god_n and_o vers_fw-la 8._o that_o our_o lord_n jesus_n shall_v kill_v he_o with_o the_o spirit_n of_o his_o mouth_n at_o his_o come_n but_o none_o of_o all_o these_o agree_v to_o the_o pope_n no_o more_o than_o that_o our_o lord_n jesus_n be_v come_v the_o second_o tyme._n john_n 5_o 43._o i_o be_o come_v in_o my_o father_n name_n and_o you_o receive_v i_o not_o if_o another_o shall_v come_v in_o his_o own_o name_n him_z you_o will_v receive_v he_o mean_v special_o the_o wicked_a antichrist_n how_o then_o can_v the_o pope_n be_v he_o see_v the_o jew_n receyve_v he_o not_o see_v more_o dan._n 7.7_o and_o cap._n 12.11_o revel_v 13.17_o and_o cap._n 17.8.11_o luc._n 13.14_o mat._n 24.25_o ¶_o to_o follow_v our_o common_a rule_n the_o father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o be_v s._n chrysoft_a and_o s._n cyril_n who_o do_v both_o thus_o understand_v this_o very_a place_n last_o allege_v s._n amb._n upon_o the_o 2._o thes_n 2._o hierom._n in_o ep_n ad_fw-la algas_n quaest_n 11._o s._n aug._n 29._o tract_n in_o loan_n s._n irenaeus_n l._n 5._o cont_n haeres_fw-la valentin_n theodoret_n in_o his_o epitome_n of_o the_o divine_a decree_n cap._n de_fw-fr antichristo_fw-la fourteen_o that_o no_o man_n nor_o any_o but_o god_n can_v forgive_v or_o retayme_v sin_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n john_n 20.21_o as_o my_o father_n have_v send_v i_o even_o so_o send_v i_o you_o now_o christ_n be_v send_v by_o his_o father_n not_o only_o to_o teach_v preach_v administer_v sacrament_n and_o to_o work_v miracle_n but_o also_o to_o forgive_v sin_n but_o the_o disciple_n be_v send_v with_o power_n to_o teach_v preach_v administer_v sacrament_n and_o to_o work_v miracle_n therefore_o also_o to_o forgive_v sin_n ibid._n v_o 22.23_o when_o he_o have_v say_v this_o he_o breathe_v on_o they_o and_o say_v unto_o they_o receive_v you_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o soever_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v unto_o they_o and_o who_o soever_o sin_n you_o retain_v they_o be_v retain_v christ_n have_v first_o show_v his_o own_o commission_n which_o be_v to_o pardon_v sin_n present_o give_v his_o apostle_n power_n to_o do_v the_o same_o breathe_v upon_o they_o the_o holy_a ghost_n he_o therefore_o that_o deny_v man_n to_o have_v this_o power_n either_o deny_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v 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honour_n be_v from_o that_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a to_o he_o alone_o as_o contrary_v wise_a if_o i_o lay_v prostrate_a at_o christ_n foot_n indeed_o kiss_v they_o knock_v my_o breast_n hold_v up_o my_o hand_n unto_o he_o call_v he_o the_o son_n of_o god_n yet_o all_o this_o while_n think_v he_o not_o to_o be_v so_o in_o my_o hart_n my_o honour_n true_o shall_v be_v no_o honour_n at_o all_o but_o a_o very_a contumely_n and_o affront_v unto_o christ_n add_v hereunto_o that_o the_o word_n which_o betoken_v honour_n adoration_n worship_n and_o the_o like_a be_v in_o a_o manner_n confound_v in_o all_o language_n but_o the_o hart_n from_o whence_o the_o honour_n proceed_v know_v well_o the_o difference_n of_o every_o thing_n d._n sanders_n de_fw-fr imag._n pag._n 10._o their_o 3._o objection_n it_o be_v express_o forbid_v by_o god_n himself_o to_o fall_v down_o before_o any_o image_n or_o to_o worship_v it_o answer_n our_o reformer_n themselves_o confess_v to_o honour_v the_o 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elias_n talk_v with_o they_o therefore_o saint_n decease_v have_v afterward_o appear_v to_o some_o on_o earth_n matt._n 27.52_o and_o the_o grave_n be_v open_v and_o many_o body_n of_o saint_n which_o sleep_v arise_v and_o come_v out_o of_o the_o grave_n after_o his_o resurrection_n and_o go_v into_o the_o holy_a city_n and_o appear_v unto_o many_o etc._n etc._n 2._o mac._n 15.12_o onias_n the_o high_a priest_n after_o he_o be_v dead_a appear_v to_o judas_n machabaeus_n alive_a the_o like_a do_v samuel_n unto_o saul_n what_o shall_v we_o say_v then_o to_o those_o that_o will_v deny_v a_o truth_n to_o clear_v for_o some_o such_o myself_o have_v meet_v withal_o see_v more_o luc._n luc._n 16.27.28_o joan._n 11.44_o luc._n 7.15_o &_o 23._o mat._n 9.25_o marc._n 5.42_o ¶_o see_v s._n bede_n l._n 5._o cap._n 13._o hist_o of_o england_n s._n gregory_n in_o his_o book_n of_o moral_n in_o sundry_a place_n xxxi_o that_o the_o saint_n decease_v know_v not_o what_o pass_v here_o on_o earth_n 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god_n ancient_a origen_n hom_n 18._o in_o joan._n say_v it_o appear_v that_o saint_n depart_v from_o this_o life_n have_v care_n of_o the_o people_n as_o it_o be_v write_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o maccabee_n many_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o jeremy_n jerem._n 15.1_o though_o moses_n and_o samuel_n stand_v before_o i_o yet_o my_o mind_n can_v not_o be_v towards_o this_o people_n hence_o s._n hierom._n in_o his_o commentary_n and_o s._n greg._n lib._n 9_o of_o his_o moral_n cap._n 12._o do_v gather_v that_o moses_n and_o samuel_n after_o their_o death_n both_o can_v and_o do_v sometime_o pray_v for_o the_o same_o people_n for_o otherwise_o it_o shall_v be_v absurd_a to_o say_v though_o moses_n and_o samuel_n stand_v before_o i_o etc._n etc._n baruch_n 3.4_o o_o lord_n almighty_a thou_o god_n of_o israel_n hear_v now_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o dead_a israëlites_n we_o read_v of_o the_o dead_a of_o israël_n and_o theodoret_n paraphrase_v upon_o the_o prophet_n baruch_n interprete_v this_o place_n as_o catholic_n do_v therefore_o the_o dead_a of_o israel_n pray_v for_o the_o live_n revel_v 2.26.27_o and_o he_o that_o overcom_v &_o keep_v my_o work_n unto_o the_o end_n to_o he_o will_v i_o give_v power_n over_o the_o nation_n and_o he_o shall_v rule_v they_o with_o a_o rod_n of_o iron_n since_o jesus-christ_n therefore_o impart_v his_o power_n unto_o they_o upon_o nation_n therefore_o they_o may_v with_o jesus-christ_n pray_v for_o those_o over_o who_o they_o be_v thus_o establish_v so_o s._n augustine_n expound_v the_o same_o write_v upon_o the_o 2._o psalm_n we_o read_v also_o in_o the_o 16._o of_o s._n luc._n that_o the_o rich-glutton_n in_o hell_n pray_v for_o his_o brethren_n that_o be_v on_o earth_n if_o therefore_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n pray_v not_o for_o we_o their_o brethren_n on_o earth_n than_o we_o may_v say_v that_o great_a be_v the_o charity_n of_o the_o damn_a then_o of_o the_o save_v but_o this_o be_v too_o absurd_a to_o say_v a_o conclusion_n which_o s._n aug._n draw_v from_o this_o very_a place_n ¶_o see_v s_o aug._n serm_n 15._o de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apost_n s._n hilar._n in_o psalm_n 129._o s._n damascen_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-la fide_fw-la cap._n 16._o with_o many_o other_o xxxiii_o that_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o beseech_v god_n to_o grant_v our_o prayer_n in_o favour_n of_o the_o saint_n or_o their_o merit_n nor_o do_v we_o receive_v any_o benefit_n thereby_o two_o way_n there_o be_v of_o pray_v by_o the_o mediation_n of_o the_o bless_a saint_n the_o one_o by_o beseech_v god_n to_o grant_v our_o desire_n in_o favour_n of_o they_o and_o their_o merit_n the_o other_o by_o express_o pray_v they_o to_o intercede_v and_o pray_v to_o god_n for_o us._n both_o be_v impugn_a by_o our_o reformer_n we_o will_v prove_v they_o our_o of_o their_o own_o bible_n the_o proof_n of_o the_o first_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o text_n exod._n 32.13_o remember_v abraham_n isaac_n and_o israel_n thy_o servant_n to_o who_o thou_o swear_v by_o thy_o own_o self_n and_o say_v unto_o they_o i_o will_v multiply_v your_o seed_n as_o the_o star_n of_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n and_o our_o lord_n repent_v we_o read_v be_v pacify_v of_o the_o evil_a which_o he_o think_v to_o do_v unto_o his_o people_n loe_o how_o plain_o moses_n pray_v to_o god_n by_o the_o meditation_n of_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n a_o form_n of_o prayer_n so_o please_v to_o he_o as_o have_v say_v a_o little_a before_o that_o for_o their_o sin_n of_o idolatry_n he_o will_v consume_v they_o the_o memory_n of_o his_o holy_a servant_n be_v but_o lay_v before_o he_o he_o present_o pardon_v they_o therefore_o we_o may_v beseech_v god_n to_o grant_v we_o our_o prayer_n in_o favour_n of_o they_o theod._n