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the_o woulâ—es_n do_v free_o depart_v or_o be_v drive_v away_o by_o publyke_a authority_n i_o can_v yield_v to_o your_o judgement_n therein_o etc._n etc._n and_o if_o we_o have_v make_v such_o delay_n what_o church_n shall_v we_o have_v have_v at_o this_o day_n thus_o far_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o calvin_n and_o beza_n in_o this_o point_n concern_v both_o which_o in_o general_a i_o will_v set_v down_o the_o judgement_n of_o therefore_o name_v d._n bancroft_n pass_v upon_o they_o both_o who_o thus_o write_v he_o that_o 42._o shall_v read_v m._n caluin_n and_o m._n bezaes_n two_o book_n of_o epistle_n etc._n etc._n will_v certain_o marvel_v to_o understand_v into_o what_o action_n and_o deal_n they_o put_v themselves_o of_o war_n of_o peace_n of_o subjection_n of_o reformation_n without_o stay_v for_o the_o magistrate_n thus_o he_o next_o we_o will_v come_v to_o knox_n who_o thus_o teach_v reformation_n 50._o of_o religion_n belorge_v to_o the_o communality_n 343._o god_n have_v 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word_n and_o the_o use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n for_o the_o note_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v common_a to_o all_o heretical_a conventicle_n at_o least_o in_o their_o own_o opinion_n then_o for_o one_o who_o will_v discover_v and_o note_v out_o one_o particular_a man_n from_o all_o other_o to_o distinguish_v he_o from_o they_o by_o say_v it_o be_v he_o who_o have_v two_o eye_n one_o nose_n one_o mouth_n two_o arm_n etc._n etc._n since_o these_o note_n or_o description_n be_v common_a to_o all_o man_n in_o general_n again_o i_o thus_o dispute_v a_o true_a note_n of_o any_o thing_n ought_v to_o be_v at_o all_o time_n without_o discontinuance_n a_o note_n theareof_o and_o not_o sometime_o only_o since_o otherwise_o it_o be_v but_o a_o temporary_a note_n but_o there_o have_v be_v a_o church_n of_o god_n even_o then_o when_o there_o be_v no_o scripture_n at_o all_o much_o less_o any_o preach_n or_o interpretation_n of_o the_o word_n therefore_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n can_v be_v erect_v as_o a_o true_a note_n of_o the_o church_n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v manifest_a for_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n continue_v two_o thousand_o year_n before_o moses_n his_o time_n without_o any_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o d._n parkins_n true_o thus_o say_v morse_n 133._o be_v the_o first_o pennman_n of_o holy_a scripture_n with_o who_o agree_v 133_o zanchius_n d._n 583._o whitaker_n and_o all_o other_o learned_a man_n whosoever_o again_o after_o moses_n have_v pen_v the_o scripture_n it_o remain_v only_o in_o the_o custody_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o be_v among_o they_o for_o many_o year_n lose_v as_o it_o be_v grant_v even_o by_o the_o marginal_a annotation_n of_o the_o english_a bibles_n of_o the_o year_n 1576._o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o 34._o it_o be_v either_o by_o the_o negligence_n of_o the_o priest_n lose_v or_o by_o the_o wickedness_n of_o idolatreu_n king_n and_o yet_o even_o in_o those_o time_n job_n and_o
allege_v this_o similitude_n say_v pili_n non_fw-la subito_fw-la omnes_fw-la eaâ—escunt_fw-la nec_fw-la quicquam_fw-la repentem_fw-la habet_fw-la svam_fw-la maturitatem_fw-la contra_fw-la camp_n rat._n 7._o 7._o d_o whit_n contra_fw-la camp_n rat._n 7._o thus_o say_v in_o ecclesia_fw-la romana_fw-la accidit_fw-la quëad_fw-la modum_fw-la in_o magno_fw-la aedificio_fw-la videmus_fw-la evenire_fw-la etc._n etc._n quod_fw-la ruinas_fw-la aliquo_fw-la loco_fw-la in_o cipit_fw-la agere_fw-la etc._n etc._n ita_fw-la romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la leporum_fw-la successione_n etc._n etc._n etc._n d._n whit._n cont_n camp_n say_v â—utarcâ—â—a_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la defend_v muâ—_n raâ—_n 1._o 1._o d._n whit._n cont_n camp_n rat._n 10._o 10._o d._n whit._n cont_n comp._n rat._n 2._o 2._o d._n whit._fw-la ubi_fw-la suprà _fw-la rat._n 9_o 9_o galat._n c._n 1_o 1_o d._n â—hit_n cont_n duraeun_n l._n 7._o p._n 478_o say_v nobis_fw-la sufficit_fw-la etc._n etc._n ex_fw-la pontificioru_n dogmatic_a et_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la collatione_fw-la discrimen_fw-la et_fw-la dissimultudine_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la histoâ—_n 〈◊〉_d liberum_fw-la relixquimus_fw-la scribere_fw-la quiâ—velint_fw-la quiâ—velint_fw-la d._n whit._n cont_n camp_n rat._n 5._o 5._o d._n whit._n hail_v in_o this_o sentence_n in_o rat._n 〈◊〉_d cont_n camp_n camp_n contra_fw-la maximinun_n arianum_n e_o p_o c_o p._n l._n 1._o 1._o ep_n sy_n ad_fw-la paulinum_n paulinum_n de_fw-fr praesâ—r_fw-fr advers_a haeres_fw-la see_v c._n 19_o 30._o 35._o 36._o 36._o vincent_n advers_a haeres_fw-la haeres_fw-la in_o his_o eccles_n policy_n sect._n 14._o p._n 86._o 86._o luther_n in_o titul_n de_fw-fr libris_fw-la veteris_fw-la et_fw-la ncui_fw-la testamenti_fw-la as_o also_o in_o his_o prolegoâ—a_n to_o diverse_a of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n testament_n see_v seven_o of_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o the_o second_o part_n of_o that_o book_n all_o of_o they_o be_v spend_v in_o display_v the_o protestant_n condenation_n of_o all_o orginal_n &_o translation_n of_o scripture_n scripture_n math._n 16_o 16_o in_o psabâ—contra_fw-la parté_fw-fr donali_n donali_n in_o c._n 16_o math._n math._n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la quintu_n quintu_n record_v by_o all_o the_o evangelist_n evangelist_n theoph._n in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la locum_fw-la chrysostiâ—_n hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la locum_fw-la cyril_n hierosol_n cat_n 4._o mystag_n cyril_n alexand_n epist_n ad_fw-la calosirium_fw-la calosirium_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la c._n 5._o 5._o joan._n 20._o 20._o epist_n ad_fw-la heliodorum_n heliodorum_n lib._n de_fw-fr sacerdotio_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la joan._n 3._o 3._o in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la locum_fw-la in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la locum_fw-la l_o b._n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la c._n 11._o 11._o in_o c._n 16._o ezech._n ezech._n l_o b._n 3_o ad_fw-la quirinum_fw-la quirinum_fw-la jac._n c._n 2._o 2._o l._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la ct_v op_n c._n 14._o e_z lib._n 20._o de_fw-fr civilate_n dei_fw-la dei_fw-la thes_n c._n 2._o 2._o l._n de_fw-fr side_n cap._n 17._o 17._o de_fw-fr spirit_n sauct_v c._n 29._o 29._o in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la locum_fw-la d._n whit._n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la script_n p._n 521._o say_v nam_fw-la quando_fw-la scriptura_fw-la non_fw-la habetvivam_fw-la vocem_fw-la quam_fw-la audâ—amus_fw-la utendum_fw-la est_fw-la quibusâ—lam_fw-la mediis_fw-la quibus_fw-la investigamus_fw-la quissit_v sesâ—s_fw-la quae_fw-la meas_fw-la scripturariâ—_n scripturariâ—_n so_o say_v d._n whit._n l._n de_fw-fr eccles_n contravers_n 2._o quaest_n 2._o p._n 221._o 221._o d._n reynolds_n in_o his_o conference_n p._n 83._o 84._o 92._o 98._o 98._o d._n whit._n cotra_fw-fr bellar._n de_fw-fr eccles_n contravers_n 2._o quaesi_fw-la 2._o pag._n 221._o thus_o write_v qualia_fw-la illa_fw-la media_fw-la sunt_fw-la tale_n ipsa_fw-la interpretatione_n esse_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la at_o media_fw-la interpretadi_fw-la leca_v obscura_fw-la sunt_fw-la incerta_fw-la dubia_fw-la et_fw-la ambigua_fw-la ergo_fw-la fieri_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quin_fw-la et_fw-la ipsa_fw-la interpretat_fw-la o._n incerta_fw-la sit_fw-la si_fw-la incerta_fw-la tunc_fw-la esse_fw-la potest_fw-la falsa_fw-la falsa_fw-la psal_n 18._o 18._o dan._n 2._o 2._o isaiah_n 2._o 2._o isaiah_n 60._o 60._o cap._n 15._o 16._o 17._o 17._o d._n whit_n contra_fw-la camprat_n 3._o thus_o saithe_v de_fw-fr loco_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la paâ—ùm_fw-la laboro_fw-la nec_fw-la arbitrii_fw-la libertatem_fw-la credam_fw-la quamtumuis_fw-la hic_fw-la centies_fw-la affirmet_fw-la coram_fw-la hominibus_fw-la esse_fw-la vitam_fw-la et_fw-la mortem_fw-la mortem_fw-la cap._n 4._o 4._o cap._n 30._o 30._o d._n whit_n l._n 9_o contra_fw-la duraeum_n p._n 818._o thus_o say_v of_o this_o point_n tuum_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la causa_fw-la petrum_fw-la galatinum_fw-la minimè_fw-la prostctò_fw-la desideramus_fw-la nec_fw-la haebreorum_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la illis_fw-la indigemus_fw-la indigemus_fw-la 1._o joan._n 2._o 2._o rom._n 8._o et_fw-la galat._n 4._o 〈◊〉_d luk._n 12._o 12._o gal_n 3._o et_fw-la 2._o col._n 2._o 2._o math._n et_fw-fr mark_n 5._o g_o joan._n 3._o 3._o 1_o cor._n 2._o 2._o 1._o cor._n 2._o 2._o 1._o pet._n 2._o 2._o 1._o petr._n 2._o ut_fw-la supra_fw-la supra_fw-la joan._n 3._o 3._o in_o his_o hisâ—oria_fw-la sacramentariae_fw-la part_n altera_fw-la altera_fw-la cap._n 1._o 1._o 2._o cor._n 4._o 4._o d._n whit_n contra_fw-la camp_n rat_n 3._o caleth_fw-he the_o church_n of_o rome_n thus_o ecclesia_fw-la romae_fw-la est_fw-la meretrix_n babiâ—anica_fw-la palm_n a_o â—â—a_n v_o 〈…〉_z resâ—ctus_fw-la speluca_fw-la latroâ—um_fw-la via_fw-la ampla_fw-la ad_fw-la interitum_fw-la perducens_fw-la regnum_fw-la infeâ—orâ—â—_n corpus_fw-la antichristi_fw-la eâ—roriâ—â—â—lluu_fw-la es_fw-la may_a â—â—gna_fw-la scortationum_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la impiorum_fw-la à _fw-la qua_fw-la excedere_fw-la christianum_fw-la quemqne_fw-la â—portel_n quam_fw-la christus_fw-la miserè_fw-la perdet_fw-la aliqud_fw-la lo_o eique_fw-la sceleru_fw-la omnium_fw-la meritas_fw-la penas_fw-la imponet_fw-la thus_o d._n whit._n whit._n 3._o reg._n 3._o 3._o paraip_n 34._o 34._o isaiah_n 2._o micheas_n 4._o 4._o cyâ—â—_n l._n de_fw-la vâ—â—aâ—â—_n ecclesiae_fw-la posi_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ilium_fw-la ilium_fw-la tocòâ—_n in_o greek_a signify_v usury_n come_v of_o the_o verb_n tictò_fw-la parto_fw-la because_o silver_n put_v to_o usury_n bâ—etteth_v silver_n silver_n 1._o cor._n 4._o 4._o zach._n 14._o 14._o psalm_n 54_o 54_o d._n râ—ynl_n do_v write_v against_o card._n bellurmine_n in_o the_o controversy_n of_o image_n image_n math._n 16._o 16._o jeremy_n 5._o 5._o joan._n 6._o b_o viâ—g_n aâ—neaâ—_n aâ—neaâ—_n tertullian_n de_fw-fr pudicitia_n pudicitia_n act._n 13._o 13._o lib._n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la c._n 12._o 12._o lib._n 2._o et_fw-la 6._o contra_fw-la pa_n 〈…〉_z 〈…〉_z lib._n 2_o contra_fw-la petiliaâ—â—_n rat_n 51._o et_fw-la 61._o 61._o haeres_fw-la c._n 33._o 33._o in_o â—raesat_fw-la dialogorum_fw-la contra_fw-la pelagianos_fw-la pelagianos_fw-la haeres_fw-la cap._n 46._o 46._o lib._n contra_fw-la vigilantiâ—â—_n c._n 2._o 2._o lib._n 1._o et_fw-la 2._o contra_fw-la jovinianum_fw-la jovinianum_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la c._n 82._o 82._o lib._n 2._o cotra_fw-fr pelagianum_n pelagianum_n in_o re_n scripto_fw-la ad_fw-la mâ—lâ—uiâ—â—â—â—â—_n concilium_fw-la post_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d haeâ—â—_n 88_o 88_o lib._n 26._o cap._n 27._o 27._o adverse_a haeres_fw-la post_o med_n med_n l._n 4._o â—â—er_n 〈…〉_z 〈…〉_z in_o explanat_fw-la symboli_fw-la ad_fw-la damasun_n damasun_n de_fw-fr temporeserm_n 91_o 91_o lib_fw-la 2._o cap._n 19_o 19_o dialog_n 3._o 3._o lib._n 3._o the_o heretic_n fabulis_fw-la fabulis_fw-la lib._n 6._o histor_n c._n 33._o 33._o lutâ—_n in_o his_o sermon_n english_v p._n 147._o et_fw-la 276._o etc._n etc._n etc._n lib._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la c._n 54._o 54._o vincent_n lyrinensis_n contra_fw-la haeres_fw-la haeres_fw-la 1._o joan_n 2._o 2._o osiander_n cet_fw-fr 16._o l._n 2._o c._n 67._o p._n 423._o hoc_fw-la tempore_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_o anglia_fw-it ad_fw-la formam_fw-la call_v 〈…〉_z sticam_fw-la opera_fw-la petri_n martyris_fw-la florentini_fw-la &_o bernardi_n ochini_n senensis_fw-la reformaâ—ae_fw-la sunt_fw-la and_o symlerus_n a_o protestant_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la &_o obit_fw-la petri_n martyris_fw-la fol._n 13._o petrus_n martyr_n ab_fw-la archiepiscopo_fw-la cantuariensi_fw-la de_fw-la voluntate_fw-la regis_fw-la vocatus_fw-la est_fw-la itaque_fw-la argentinâ_fw-la in_o angliam_fw-la discessit_fw-la comitante_fw-la eum_fw-la bernardo_n ochino_n qui_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la ab_fw-la eodem_fw-la archiepiscopo_fw-la vocatus_fw-la est_fw-la est_fw-la bale_n in_o praesat_fw-la in_o act._n rom._n pontif._n print_v 1558_o say_v of_o ochinus_n and_o peter_n martyr_n faelix_fw-la anglia_fw-it dum_fw-la haec_fw-la paria_fw-la habuit_fw-la miserable_fw-la dum_fw-la amisit_fw-la amisit_fw-la so_o say_v calvin_n of_o ochinus_n in_o these_o word_n quos_fw-la itali_fw-la bernardino_n ochiâ—o_n &_o petro_n vermilio_n opponent_n l._n de_fw-fr scandalis_fw-la extant_a in_o his_o tract_n theolog._n print_a 1597._o pag._n 111._o 111._o conâ—adus_fw-la slussenberge_n in_o theolog._n calvin_n l._n 1._o art_n 2_o call_v neuserus_fw-la he_o 〈…〉_z ergensis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la primarius_fw-la pastor_n pastor_n 1._o petri_n 1._o 1._o see_v polidor_n virgil_n and_o leyland_n his_o annotation_n upon_o polidor_n virgil_n virgil_n vide_fw-la authorem_fw-la genealogiae_fw-la principum_fw-la cambrorun_n brilannicorum_n &_o saxonicorum_fw-la as_o also_o cadnaeus_n the_o adventâ—_n lulij_fw-la caesaris_fw-la caesaris_fw-la 2._o cor._n 6._o h_z joan._n 11._o 11._o isaiah_n 60._o 60._o isaiah_n 49._o 49._o psalm_n psalm_n isaiah_n 54._o see_v here_o of_o the_o content_n of_o the_o english_a
serve_v only_o to_o blear_v for_o the_o time_n the_o impenetrate_a and_o weak_a eye_n of_o the_o ignorant_a do_v in_o the_o closure_n of_o all_o both_o by_o certain_a necessary_a inference_n as_o also_o in_o plain_n and_o express_v term_n grant_v the_o point_n here_o controvert_v to_o wit_n that_o the_o protestant_a church_n have_v for_o many_o age_n together_o be_v whole_o invisible_a and_o not_o know_v to_o any_o one_o man_n live_v or_o rather_o that_o during_o such_o say_a age_n it_o have_v be_v utter_o overthrow_v destroy_v and_o as_o it_o be_v annihilate_v and_o no_o such_o church_n in_o be_v the_o proof_n of_o which_o point_n shall_v be_v the_o subject_n of_o this_o passage_n this_o point_n than_o be_v prove_v two_o way_n and_o both_o from_o the_o penn_n of_o the_o protestant_n first_o from_o their_o acknowledge_a want_n of_o succession_n of_o pastor_n and_o of_o their_o like_a defect_n of_o send_v by_o ordinary_a call_v second_o from_o their_o manifest_a &_o open_a complaint_n 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