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book_n	deny_v	election_n	great_a	14	3	2.1254	3	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A10908	The Protestant Church existent, and their faith professed in all ages, and by whom with a catalogue of councels in all ages, who professed the same. Written, by Henry Rogers D.D. prebendary of Hereford.	Rogers, Henry, ca. 1585-1658.	1638 (1638)	STC 21178; ESTC S116092	131,830	215

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