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A19650 An apologie, or defence, of those Englishe writers [and] preachers which Cerberus the three headed dog of hell, chargeth wyth false doctrine, vnder the name of predestination. Written by Robert Crowley clerke, and vicare of Sainct Giles without Creple-gate in London Crowley, Robert, 1518?-1588. 1566 (1566) STC 6076; ESTC S119169 136,938 214

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