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A49603 The history of the Eucharist divided into three parts : the first treating of the form of celebration : the second of the doctrine : the third of worship in the sacrament / written originally in French by monsieur L'Arroque ... done into English by J.W.; Histoire de l'Eucharistie. English Larroque, Matthieu de, 1619-1684.; Walker, Joseph. 1684 (1684) Wing L454; ESTC R30489 587,431 602

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