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a_o light_a repentance_n shall_v be_v sufficient_a with_o out_o any_o other_o satisfaction_n to_o be_v make_v it_o shall_v be_v a_o occasion_n to_o destroy_v all_o virtue_n and_o increase_n vice_n and_o sin_n to_o you_o â—_o utter_v destruction_n of_o the_o come_fw-mi wealth_n &_o quiet_a lyvinge_n of_o you_o â—_o people_n and_o thus_o he_o make_v a_o 〈◊〉_d as_o to_o the_o first_o where_o he_o say_v that_o it_o will_v 〈◊〉_d put_v away_o the_o dread_n of_o god_n and_o geve_v boldness_n to_o sin_n if_o we_o think_v there_o be_v no_o purgatorye_n we_o se_fw-la and_o may_v evidentlye_o perceive_v the_o con_fw-mi trarye_n all_o day_n both_o in_o young_a and_o old_a of_o they_o that_o believe_v there_o be_v a_o purgatorye_n the_o young_a sa_o you_o i_o will_v take_v my_o pleasure_n while_o i_o may_v and_o if_o i_o may_v have_v but_o one_o houâ—…es_n respite_n to_o cry_v god_n mercy_n i_o care_v not_o for_o than_o shall_v i_o go_v but_o to_o purgatorye_n and_o so_o shall_v i_o be_v sure_a 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