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examination_n of_o the_o magdiburgensiam_n history_n and_o there_o you_o have_v the_o rest_n of_o his_o misrepresentation_n 2._o after_o the_o same_o manner_n have_v he_o serve_v the_o father_n both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latino_n church_n quote_v some_o passage_n out_o of_o they_o as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v for_o believer_n baptism_n in_o opposition_n to_o that_o of_o infant_n when_o not_o one_o of_o they_o be_v so_o no_o not_o tertullian_n or_o nazianzen_n absolute_o but_o both_o for_o it_o in_o case_n of_o danger_n of_o death_n yea_o the_o latter_a without_o respect_n to_o that_o see_v chap._n 7._o part._n 1._o pag._n 13._o of_o the_o answer_n and_o the_o 3._o century_n in_o the_o recapitulation_n at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o answer_n there_o be_v two_o way_n he_o take_v to_o blind_v the_o reader_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o father_n 1._o by_o traduce_v that_o which_o be_v speak_v in_o reference_n to_o pagan_n and_o misapply_v of_o it_o against_o infant_n baptism_n thus_o he_o serve_v chrysostom_n and_o austin_n p._n 76._o of_o his_o treatise_n who_o he_o bring_v for_o his_o eminent_a witness_n for_o believer_n baptism_n and_o then_o again_o the_o same_o man_n to_o be_v for_o infant_n baptism_n pag._n 121._o of_o his_o treatise_n see_v how_o this_o contradiction_n be_v reconcile_v in_o our_o answer_n to_o his_o 2d_o chap._n part_n 2._o about_o infant_n baptism_n 2._o by_o curtail_v and_o leave_v out_o part_n of_o the_o sentence_n as_o pag._n 65._o where_o he_o cite_v these_o word_n of_o bazil_n must_v the_o faithful_a be_v seal_v with_o baptism_n faith_n must_v precede_v and_o go_v before_o there_o mr_n danvers_n stop_v whereas_o he_o shall_v have_v go_v on_o with_o what_o follow_v quid_fw-la de_fw-la infantibus_fw-la ais_fw-la num_fw-la &_o illos_fw-la baptizemus_fw-la maximè_fw-la these_o be_v the_o next_o line_n to_o what_o we_o have_v above_o what_o say_v you_o to_o infant_n which_o know_v nor_o good_a nor_o evil_a must_v we_o baptize_v they_o yea_o etc._n etc._n see_v chap._n 7._o part_n 1._o p._n 13._o of_o the_o answer_n 3._o the_o council_n have_v no_o better_a measure_n from_o he_o for_o he_o quote_v those_o 3._o the_o bracaren_n that_o of_o constantinople_n he_o write_v it_o constance_n and_o that_o of_o toletan_n all_o which_o he_o produce_v for_o believer_n baptism_n in_o opposition_n to_o that_o of_o infant_n p._n 78._o of_o his_o treatise_n and_o quote_v the_o magdiburgenses_n for_o it_o cent._n 7._o p._n 146._o whereas_o they_o give_v we_o to_o understand_v that_o they_o be_v for_o infant_n baptism_n chap._n 7._o part_n 1_o pag._n 29_o 30._o of_o our_o answer_n see_v this_o more_o full_o in_o the_o recapitulation_n affix_v to_o the_o answer_n under_o century_n 7._o 4._o he_o bring_v in_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n very_o ridiculous_o as_o eminent_a witness_n for_o believer_n baptism_n that_o be_v in_o opposition_n to_o infant_n baptism_n or_o else_o he_o say_v nothing_o as_o for_o instance_n haimo_n rabanus_n a_o abbot_n remigius_n a_o monk_n smarugdus_n etc._n etc._n see_v how_o little_a truth_n there_o be_v in_o this_o chap._n 7._o part_n 1._o p._n 33._o of_o the_o answer_n and_o much_o more_o full_o in_o the_o recapitulation_n at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o answer_n under_o century_n 8_o 9_o 10._o here_o our_o author_n have_v use_v his_o wont_a subtlety_n in_o quote_v some_o passage_n out_o of_o these_o popish_a doctor_n for_o believer_n baptism_n mean_v by_o they_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o pagan_n 5._o by_o the_o same_o artifice_n be_v ignorant_a person_n delude_v with_o the_o say_n of_o the_o schoolman_n which_o be_v so_o great_a and_o stiff_a assertor_n of_o infant-baptism_n that_o they_o ascribe_v too_o much_o to_o it_o see_v how_o we_o have_v discover_v the_o author_n sophistry_n chap._n 7._o part_n 1._o pag._n 34._o of_o our_o answer_n but_o more_o full_o this_o be_v speak_v to_o in_o the_o recapitulation_n under_o the_o 12_o cent._n 6._o his_o great_a witness_n against_o 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save_v and_o consequent_o our_o child_n can_v be_v save_v because_o they_o can_v believe_v the_o same_o condition_n be_v require_v to_o precede_v baptism_n that_o be_v require_v to_o precede_v salvation_n you_o see_v whether_o the_o argument_n may_v be_v carry_v and_o what_o little_a ground_n of_o comfort_n such_o doctrine_n afford_v in_o the_o death_n of_o our_o child_n to_o conclude_v then_o whereas_o they_o argue_v from_o this_o place_n of_o mark_n we_o must_v believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v but_o infant_n can_v believe_v therefore_o may_v not_o be_v baptise_a will_v it_o not_o as_o direct_o follow_v that_o since_o they_o can_v believe_v they_o must_v be_v damn_v let_v they_o frame_v a_o answer_n to_o the_o one_o and_o then_o they_o have_v answer_v both_o for_o look_v say_v mr._n martial_n by_o what_o distinction_n they_o will_v maintain_v the_o salvation_n of_o infant_n against_o this_o argument_n by_o the_o same_o will_v i_o more_o clear_o justify_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n against_o this_o argument_n have_v thus_o clear_v the_o text_n from_o the_o false_a gloss_n antipaedobaptist_n put_v upon_o they_o we_o shall_v next_o examine_v the_o passage_n out_o of_o author_n which_o my_o antagonist_n quote_v for_o his_o opinion_n the_o first_o he_o bring_v be_v mr._n baxter_n who_o have_v so_o notable_o wound_v their_o cause_n in_o his_o plain_a scripture_n proof_n for_o infant_n church-membership_n and_o baptism_n be_v become_v the_o man_n of_o their_o indignation_n and_o indeed_o i_o fear_v the_o author_n with_o who_o i_o have_v to_o do_v be_v possess_v with_o a_o malevolent_a spirit_n against_o that_o learned_a and_o godly_a divine_a and_o be_v glad_a of_o any_o occasion_n to_o wound_v his_o reputation_n as_o appear_v by_o his_o deal_n with_o he_o in_o his_o preface_n and_o divers_a other_o place_n in_o the_o treatise_n mr._n baxter_n say_v he_o do_v full_o acknowledge_v in_o his_o book_n call_v the_o second_o disputation_n of_o right_a to_o sacrament_n pag._n 149_o 150._o where_o he_o say_v this_o speak_v of_o the_o commission_n of_o christ_n to_o his_o disciple_n be_v not_o like_o some_o occasional_a mention_v of_o baptism_n but_o it_o be_v the_o very_a commission_n itself_o of_o christ_n to_o his_o disciple_n and_o purposely_o express_v their_o several_a work_n in_o their_o several_a place_n and_o order_n their_o first_o task_n be_v to_o make_v disciple_n which_o be_v by_o mark_n call_v believer_n the_o second_o work_n be_v to_o baptize_v they_o whereto_o be_v annex_v the_o promise_n of_o their_o salvation_n the_o three_o work_n be_v to_o teach_v they_o all_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v after_o to_o be_v learned_a in_o the_o school_n of_o christ_n to_o contemn_v this_o order_n say_v he_o be_v to_o contemn_v all_o rule_n of_o order_n for_o where_o can_v we_o expect_v to_o find_v it_o if_o not_o here_o i_o profess_v my_o conscience_n be_v full_o satisfy_v that_o the_o minister_n must_v expect_v a_o profession_n of_o faith_n before_o baptism_n to_o discover_v the_o craft_n and_o sinister_a deal_n of_o our_o opponent_n i_o must_v first_o acquaint_v the_o reader_n that_o mr._n baxter_n dispute_v with_o mr._n blake_n who_o be_v for_o a_o large_a admission_n to_o the_o sacrament_n explain_v the_o thesis_n in_o his_o second_o disputation_n thus_o viz._n that_o minister_n must_v not_o baptise_v the_o child_n of_o those_o that_o profess_v not_o save_v faith_n upon_o profession_n of_o any_o faith_n that_o be_v short_a of_o it_o these_o be_v his_o very_a word_n pag._n 53._o and_o after_o it_o nine_o line_n low_a that_o he_o may_v not_o be_v mistake_v have_v this_o by_o way_n of_o caution_n viz._n that_o he_o will_v have_v the_o reader_n to_o understand_v that_o all_o along_o in_o the_o discourse_n of_o the_o whole_a book_n the_o dispute_n be_v about_o the_o age_a themselves_o whether_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v so_o that_o it_o be_v none_o of_o our_o work_n at_o this_o time_n say_v he_o to_o defend_v the_o subject_n as_o to_o their_o age_n against_o the_o anabaptist_n but_o our_o present_a business_n be_v to_o inquire_v what_o that_o faith_n be_v that_o quallifi_v person_n to_o be_v just_a subject_n of_o baptism_n or_o to_o be_v such_o who_o child_n may_v receive_v it_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o their_o faith_n or_o profession_n disp_n 2._o p._n 4._o moreover_o in_o his_o four_o disputation_n he_o have_v this_o passage_n we_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o the_o right_n of_o infant_n be_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n therefore_o we_o manage_v this_o discourse_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o adult_n p._n 351._o what_o can_v any_o man_n in_o the_o world_n say_v more_o to_o prevent_v the_o cavil_n of_o unworthy_a person_n and_o certain_o he_o have_v not_o say_v so_o much_o unless_o he_o have_v know_v how_o our_o opposite_n lie_v at_o the_o catch_n and_o yet_o we_o see_v this_o will_v not_o do_v for_o we_o have_v find_v a_o man_n of_o so_o much_o dis-ingenuity_n as_o to_o traduce_v and_o pervert_v the_o say_n of_o this_o worthy_a person_n to_o countenance_v his_o error_n i_o have_v be_v the_o large_a in_o set_v down_o mr._n baxters_n word_n that_o it_o may_v leave_v some_o impression_n on_o the_o reader_n memory_n when_o he_o find_v any_o thing_n quote_v out_o of_o mr._n baxters_n disputation_n about_o the_o right_n to_o sacrament_n that_o so_o it_o may_v be_v as_o a_o key_n to_o open_v his_o meaning_n in_o all_o those_o numerous_a passage_n the_o author_n have_v pikt_v up_o out_o of_o that_o dispute_n which_o indeed_o fill_v up_o many_o page_n of_o his_o book_n next_o we_o have_v mr._n calvin_n introduce_v as_o speak_v something_o in_o favour_n of_o their_o opinion_n etc._n ergò_fw-la ut_fw-la se_fw-la ritè_fw-la ad_fw-la baptismum_fw-la offerant_fw-la homines_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la confessio_fw-la ab_fw-la illis_fw-la requiritur_fw-la alioqui_fw-la nihil_fw-la quam_fw-la inane_fw-la esset_fw-la ludicrum_fw-la tota_fw-la actio_fw-la notandum_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la adultis_fw-la he_o verba_fw-la fieri_fw-la calv._n in_o mat._n 3.6_o verùm_fw-la quia_fw-la docere_fw-la prius_fw-la jubet_fw-la christus_fw-la quam_fw-la baptizare_fw-la &_o tantum_fw-la credentes_fw-la ad_fw-la baptismum_fw-la vult_fw-la recipi_fw-la videtur_fw-la non_fw-la ritè_fw-la administrari_fw-la baptismus_fw-la nisi_fw-la fides_fw-la praecesserit_fw-la etc._n etc._n eos_n qui_fw-la fide_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la dei_fw-la ingressi_fw-la sunt_fw-la videmus_fw-la cum_fw-la sva_fw-la sobole_fw-la censeri_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la membris_fw-la &_o in_o salutis_fw-la haereditatem_fw-la simul_fw-la vocari_fw-la nec_fw-la modò_fw-la seperatur_fw-la hoc_fw-la modo_fw-la baptismus_fw-la a_o fide_fw-la &_o doctrina_fw-la quia_fw-la licet_fw-la pveri_fw-la infant_n nondum_fw-la per_fw-la aetatem_fw-la fidem_fw-la babent_fw-la deus_fw-la tamen_fw-la eorum_fw-la parent_n compellans_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereas_o few_o ever_o write_v so_o smart_o against_o they_o it_o be_v from_o that_o same_o passage_n of_o he_o on_o mat._n 6._o etc._n etc._n therefore_o that_o man_n may_v right_o offer_v themselves_o to_o baptism_n confession_n of_o sin_n be_v require_v otherwise_o the_o whole_a action_n will_v be_v but_o sport_n the_o word_n indeed_o be_v mr._n calvin_n so_o that_o i_o confess_v my_o antagonist_n speak_v truth_n but_o he_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v speak_v the_o whole_a truth_n for_o mr._n calvin_n also_o cauteous_o add_v it_o be_v to_o be_v note_a that_o these_o word_n be_v speak_v of_o adult_n person_n and_o that_o we_o may_v see_v his_o judgement_n full_o take_v notice_n of_o his_o paraphrase_n upon_o the_o 28._o of_o mat._n 19_o and_o that_o other_o text_n mark_v 16.16_o but_o because_o say_v he_o christ_n command_v we_o to_o teach_v before_o he_o command_v we_o to_o baptise_v and_o he_o will_v have_v believer_n only_o admit_v to_o baptism_n it_o seem_v baptism_n be_v not_o right_o administer_v unless_o faith_n go_v before_o from_o this_o place_n say_v calvin_n the_o anabaptist_n oppose_v infant_n baptism_n to_o which_o he_o present_o answer_v that_o those_o who_o we_o see_v by_o a_o profession_n of_o their_o faith_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n we_o be_v to_o look_v upon_o they_o together_o with_o their_o offspring_n as_o the_o member_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o be_v joint_o call_v to_o the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o saint_n neither_o be_v baptism_n hereby_o separate_v from_o faith_n and_o teach_v because_o though_o child_n have_v not_o yet_o faith_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o age._n nevertheless_o god_n take_v their_o parent_n into_o covenant_n they_o themselves_o be_v also_o to_o be_v embrace_v in_o the_o same_o covenant_n after_o calvin_n comes_fw-la piscator_fw-la to_o as_o little_a purpose_n who_o word_n on_o mark_n 1.4_o be_v these_o it_o be_v call_v the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n because_o john_n preach_v remission_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o penitent_a believer_n but_o why_o shall_v this_o worthy_a author_n be_v thus_o curtail_v whenas_o he_o far_o express_v himself_o thus_o baptismus_fw-la
day_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v rebaptise_v it_o seem_v by_o the_o way_n sprinkle_v be_v of_o ancient_a date_n they_o tell_v we_o far_o that_o cyprian_a in_o his_o 3d_o book_n 8_o epistle_n have_v this_o argument_n for_o infant-baptism_n viz_o infant_n circumcidebantur_fw-la ergo_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la infant_n be_v circumcise_a therefore_o they_o may_v be_v baptise_a cent._n 3._o cap._n 4._o p._n 57_o which_o passage_n may_v shame_v the_o author_n and_o his_o party_n who_o usual_o object_v that_o tradition_n be_v the_o main_a argument_n which_o we_o take_v up_o in_o defect_n of_o other_o to_o justify_v our_o practice_n and_o that_o this_o be_v all_o the_o ancient_a father_n say_v for_o it_o in_o want_n of_o scripture-ground_n last_o the_o magdeburgenses_n wonder_n at_o tertullian_n simplicity_n for_o he_o hold_v say_v they_o miram_fw-la opinionem_fw-la etc._n se_fw-la ntit_fw-fr tertullianus_n mirâ_fw-la opinion_n etc._n etc._n a_o strange_a opinion_n that_o child_n shall_v not_o sudden_o be_v baptise_a and_o then_o set_v down_o his_o reason_n in_o opposition_n to_o those_o word_n math._n 19_o etc._n veniant_fw-la dum_fw-la adolescunt_fw-la veniant_fw-la dum_fw-la discunt_fw-la dum_fw-la quo_fw-la veniunt_fw-la docentur_fw-la fiant_fw-la christiani_n cum_fw-la christum_fw-la nosse_fw-la potuerint_fw-la quid_fw-la festinat_fw-la innocens_fw-la aetas_fw-la ad_fw-la remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v to_o i_o and_o forbid_v they_o not_o viz._n let_v they_o come_v say_v tertullian_n when_o they_o grow_v elder_a when_o they_o learn_v when_o they_o be_v teach_v when_o they_o come_v according_a to_o which_o dotage_n the_o disciple_n do_v wise_o in_o forbid_v child_n to_o come_v and_o christ_n do_v weak_o in_o rebuke_v they_o for_o so_o do_v and_o invite_v they_o to_o come_v what_o follow_v be_v fetch_v from_o mr._n baxter_n concern_v origen_n and_o cyprian_n that_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n none_o be_v baptise_a without_o express_a covenant_n etc._n etc._n be_v still_o mean_v of_o alien_n so_o be_v that_o of_o origen_n be_v a_o teacher_n of_o the_o disciple_n at_o alexandria_n and_o other_o that_o succeed_v he_o in_o that_o work_n so_o that_o to_o bring_v instance_n of_o this_o nature_n be_v but_o trifle_v and_o not_o to_o the_o question_n before_o we_o yet_o we_o can_v but_o observe_v the_o author_n humour_n who_o when_o we_o quote_v any_o thing_n for_o infant_n baptism_n out_o of_o the_o work_n of_o those_o father_n he_o brand_v it_o for_o spurious_a but_o when_o he_o please_v to_o make_v use_n of_o any_o of_o their_o say_n which_o he_o will_v have_v interpret_v against_o the_o same_o than_o they_o be_v authentic_a and_o must_v pass_v for_o current_n cent_z iv_o his_o discourse_n upon_o this_o century_n be_v veryinjurious_a to_o the_o magdeburgenses_n who_o have_v not_o a_o word_n of_o very_a many_o thing_n which_o he_o father_n on_o they_o as_o first_o that_o it_o be_v the_o universal_a practice_n of_o this_o age_n to_o baptise_v the_o adult_n upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n as_o if_o infant_n have_v be_v exclude_v for_o so_o we_o be_v to_o understand_v he_o or_o else_o he_o speak_v nothing_o wherefore_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o observe_v what_o the_o century-writer_n speak_v concern_v the_o matter_n and_o i_o shall_v give_v he_o a_o just_a account_n thereof_o we_o have_v before_o show_v say_v they_o out_o of_o cyprian_a and_o origen_n constat_fw-la infantum_fw-la baptismum_fw-la in_o ecclesiis_fw-la africanis_fw-la in_o usu_fw-la fuisse_fw-la supra_fw-la ex_fw-la cypriano_n &_o origene_n demonstratum_fw-la est_fw-la hoc_fw-la vero_fw-la seculo_fw-la eundem_fw-la durasse_n ex_fw-la athanasii_fw-la questione_fw-la 124._o constat_fw-la that_o baptise_v of_o child_n be_v in_o use_n in_o the_o african_a church_n and_o that_o the_o same_o continue_a in_o this_o age_n be_v evident_a from_o the_o 124th_o question_n of_o athanasius_n beside_o nazianzen_n speak_v of_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n say_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptise_a in_o case_n of_o danger_n of_o death_n ait_fw-la de_fw-fr asianis_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la nazianzenus_n loquens_fw-la infant_n baptizandes_n esse_fw-la ait_fw-la and_o the_o say_a father_n also_o ground_n it_o upon_o circumcision_n but_o if_o they_o be_v not_o in_o eminent_a danger_n of_o death_n he_o advise_v they_o shall_v delay_v baptism_n for_o three_o year_n or_o thereabout_a till_o they_o can_v be_v teach_v some_o of_o the_o mystery_n of_o religion_n we_o must_v look_v upon_o this_o say_v the_o magdeburgenses_n as_o his_o peculiar_a opinion_n nazian_n orat._n 3._o in_o s._n lavacrum_fw-la cent._n 4._o cap._n 6._o pag._n 417._o and_o verily_a nazianzen_n delay_n for_o three_o year_n that_o they_o may_v be_v teach_v mystery_n be_v a_o weak_a conceit_n for_o what_o can_v a_o child_n be_v capable_a of_o at_o that_o age_n or_o if_o he_o be_v teach_v to_o say_v something_o it_o be_v like_a that_o of_o a_o 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188_o 189._o under_o this_o 9_o cent._n h.d._n bring_v in_o rabanus_n in_o both_o his_o edition_n this_o rabanus_n be_v a_o abbot_n he_o be_v for_o infant-baptism_n as_o appear_v by_o that_o say_v of_o his_o that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n enter_v into_o the_o infant_n before_o he_o come_v out_o of_o the_o font_n though_o we_o know_v not_o how_o the_o magdib_n quote_v it_o out_o of_o his_o 10._o chap._n of_o his_o book_n of_o the_o eucharist_n cent._n 9_o c._n 4._o p._n 143._o again_o he_o say_v concern_v little_a one_o that_o be_v uncapable_a of_o teach_v they_o that_o offer_v they_o up_o in_o baptism_n must_v answer_v for_o they_o h._n d._n bring_v remigius_n for_o believer_n baptism_n in_o opposition_n to_o infant_n or_o else_o he_o trifle_n this_o remigius_n be_v also_o a_o monk_n of_o the_o order_n of_o benedict_n and_o be_v for_o the_o worship_v the_o virgin_n mary_n as_o the_o magdiburgs_n tell_v we_o but_o not_o a_o word_n against_o infant-baptism_n cent._n 9_o c._n 10._o p._n 533._o cent_z x._o they_o tell_v we_o in_o their_o 6._o chap._n pag._n 293._o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o baptize_v both_o the_o adult_n and_o infant_n cent_z x._o it_o be_v not_o oppose_v in_o this_o age_n that_o we_o find_v from_o the_o magdiburgenses_n and_o smaragdus_n be_v no_o witness_n for_o h_n d._n for_o he_o be_v express_v for_o infant-baptism_n as_o they_o snow_v we_o he_o ground_v it_o upon_o that_o passage_n sinite_fw-la parvulos_fw-la etc._n etc._n suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v etc._n etc._n cent._n 10._o c._n 4._o p._n 138._o and_o who_o have_v also_o this_o expression_n infant_n be_v make_v pure_a by_o baptism_n which_o they_o quote_v from_o his_o word_n upon_o the_o 2._o chap._n of_o the_o epistle_n of_o peter_n ausbertus_n speak_v nothing_o pro_fw-la or_o con_v but_o only_o of_o the_o virtue_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o danger_n of_o mortal_a sin_n theophilact_fw-mi be_v not_o for_o h._n d._n his_o turn_n for_o he_o say_v that_o the_o faith_n of_o he_o that_o offer_v the_o child_n in_o baptism_n or_o baptize_v it_o cleanse_v the_o child_n quam_fw-la vis_fw-la nondum_fw-la valet_fw-la cord_n credere_fw-la ad_fw-la justitiam_fw-la &_o ore_fw-la confiteri_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la i.e._n though_o he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o believe_v unto_o righteousness_n nor_o confess_v with_o the_o mouth_n cent._n 10._o c._n 4._o p._n 187._o de_fw-la doctrina_fw-la cent_z xi_o they_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o this_o age_n they_o baptize_v not_o only_o adult_a person_n but_o such_o as_o be_v new_o bear_v cent._n 11._o c._n 6._o p._n 260._o and_o then_o give_v divers_a instance_n of_o child_n that_o be_v baptize_v 〈…〉_o they_o quote_v anselm_n 〈◊〉_d it_o that_o the_o die_v baptismal_a the_o day_n of_o baptism_n as_o the_o 8_o day_n he_o ground_v it_o upon_o circumcision_n cent._n 11._o c._n 4._o p._n 169._o they_o quote_v also_o his_o note_n upon_o that_o place_n and_o her_o daughter_n be_v make_v whole_a the_o selfsame_a hour_n how_o the_o mother_n faith_n stand_v the_o child_n in_o good_a stead_n mat._n 15._o so_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n say_v he_o may_v avail_v for_o the_o infant_n in_o baptism_n though_o he_o be_v at_o present_a uncapable_a of_o good_a or_o evil_n cent_z 11._o c._n 4._o p._n 171._o and_o not_o withstand_v all_o this_o anselm_n be_v bring_v by_o h._n d._n in_o opposition_n to_o infant_n baptism_n cent_z xi_o none_o against_o infant-baptism_n that_o we_o can_v find_v upon_o good_a ground_n in_o this_o age_n for_o as_o for_o that_o which_o h._n d._n bring_v concern_v peter_n bruis_n arnoldus_fw-la and_o henricus_fw-la they_o be_v only_o popish_a calumny_n as_o we_o have_v show_v in_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o history_n of_o the_o waldenses_n durandus_fw-la also_o be_v under_o this_o century_n bring_v in_o by_o h._n d._n as_o a_o witness_n against_o infant-baptism_n though_o most_o severe_a against_o anabaptist_n cent_z xii_o they_o baptize_v as_o they_o tell_v we_o as_o well_o infant_n as_o grow_v person_n and_o give_v instance_n of_o child_n baptize_v cent._n 12._o c._n 6._o p._n 872._o cent_z xii_o none_o that_o we_o find_v who_o oppose_v it_o in_o this_o age._n h._n d._n misapply_v peter_n lombard_n as_o if_o he_o have_v be_v for_o believer_n baptism_n in_o opposition_n to_o that_o of_o infant_n when_o his_o word_n be_v child_n be_v cleanse_v from_o original_a sin_n by_o baptism_n cent._n 12._o c._n 4._o p._n 596._o h._n d._n do_v abuse_v the_o say_n of_o peter_n lombard_n viz._n the_o person_n that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v shall_v first_o believe_v and_o confess_v we_o have_v it_o in_o h_z s_z 18._o chap_n on_o john_n which_o be_v speak_v of_o pagan_n as_o appear_v by_o what_o follow_v again_o all_o that_o be_v baptize_v say_v he_o whether_o little_a one_o or_o great_a one_o receive_v in_o their_o forehead_n the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o his_o 8._o book_n on_o the_o 13._o chap._n of_o the_o revelation_n albertus_n magnus_n the_o conjurer_n another_o of_o h.d._n his_o witness_n have_v not_o that_o i_o can_v find_v a_o word_n to_o his_o purpose_n cent_z xiii_o the_o magdiburgenses_n do_v end_n with_o the_o 12._o cent._n and_o it_o be_v remarkable_a that_o except_v the_o waldenses_n who_o be_v calumniate_v by_o the_o papist_n they_o mention_v but_o one_o person_n that_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n viz._n hincmarus_n they_o indeed_o speak_v of_o one_o peter_n apamen_fw-la a_o bishop_n of_o syria_n cent._n 6._o c._n 5._o p._n 304._o de_fw-la haeresibus_fw-la and_o zoaras_n the_o monk_n that_o agree_v with_o the_o heretic_n severus_n and_o be_v condemn_v with_o he_o in_o the_o synod_n of_o constantinople_n they_o have_v it_o out_o of_o nicephorus_n lib._n 17._o c._n 9_o these_o they_o say_v be_v accuse_v of_o rebaptisation_a and_o other_o heinous_a crime_n but_o not_o for_o oppugn_v infant-baptism_n and_o therefore_o mr._n henry_n danvers_n need_v not_o to_o have_v put_v these_o in_o for_o witness_n in_o his_o 2._o edition_n cent_z xiii_o the_o waldenses_n be_v here_o false_o pretend_v to_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n see_v our_o examination_n of_o the_o history_n before_o the_o name_n of_o wickliff_n be_v famous_a h._n d._n will_v fain_o get_v something_o out_o of_o he_o for_o his_o turn_n but_o can_v for_o none_o of_o the_o word_n quote_v from_o he_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n unless_o he_o think_v that_o be_v cap._n 2._o de_fw-fr trialog_n viz._n that_o they_o be_v presumptuous_a and_o foolish_a who_o affirm_v child_n die_v unbaptise_v can_v be_v save_v or_o because_o he_o reject_v the_o popish_a tradition_n of_o salt_n cyl_n spital_n chrism_n this_o in_o h._n d._n his_o account_n render_v he_o a_o authentic_a witness_n against_o we_o for_o he_o conclude_v thus_o and_o may_v we_o not_o from_o as_o good_a evidence_n say_v that_o he_o reject_v infant-baptism_n also_o treatise_n of_o baptism_n 2._o edition_n there_o he_o also_o quote_v a_o popish_a writer_n which_o charge_v wickliff_n with_o deny_v infant-babtism_a and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v it_o be_v the_o albigensian_a heresy_n one_o as_o true_a as_o the_o other_o from_o what_o have_v be_v say_v i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o mr._n tomb_n and_o mr._n danvers_n shall_v be_v so_o much_o offend_v with_o mr._n marshal_n and_o mr._n baxter_n for_o say_v infant-baptism_n be_v but_o late_o oppose_v by_o the_o anabaptist_n of_o germany_n and_o i_o appeal_v to_o the_o reader_n whether_o mr._n baxter_n speak_v not_o true_a in_o be_v plain_a scripture-proof_n p._n 153._o who_o say_v that_o for_o his_o part_n he_o can_v find_v in_o his_o small_a read_n that_o any_o one_o divine_a or_o party_n of_o man_n do_v certain_o oppose_v or_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n for_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o then_o again_o p._n 261._o the_o world_n may_v see_v what_o a_o cause_n you_o put_v such_o a_o face_n upon_o when_o you_o can_v bring_v the_o least_o proof_n so_o much_o as_o of_o one_o man_n we_o will_v allow_v they_o one_o viz._n hincmarus_n much_o less_o society_n and_o least_o of_o all_o godly_a society_n that_o do_v once_o oppose_v or_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n from_o the_o apostle_n day_n till_o about_o luther_n be_v time_n a_o persuasive_a to_o unity_n among_o all_o that_o fear_v the_o lord_n though_o of_o different_a judgement_n about_o baptism_n enforce_v from_o scripture-argument_n and_o the_o dangerous_a consequence_n of_o division_n it_o be_v well_o advise_v by_o jacobus_n acontius_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v stratagemata_fw-la sathana_n that_o in_o all_o dispute_v about_o point_n of_o religion_n this_o shall_v be_v engrave_v upon_o our_o heart_n that_o we_o have_v not_o to_o deal_v with_o the_o man_n with_o who_o we_o dispute_v but_o with_o satan_n himself_o and_o that_o the_o main_a quarrel_n be_v not_o that_o point_n about_o which_o we_o argue_v but_o