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that_o those_o that_o be_v come_v to_o their_o full_a growth_n at_o easter_n etc._n etc._n they_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n ferè_fw-la almost_o or_o for_o that_o most_o part_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o reason_n he_o give_v why_o it_o be_v so_o scil_n because_o thousand_o of_o pagan_n daily_o flock_v then_o to_o the_o church_n than_o the_o infant_n be_v compare_v to_o those_o pagan_a parent_n and_o child_n which_o can_v conceive_v of_o what_o be_v teach_v they_o yea_o and_o those_o adult_a pagan_n thus_o flock_v in_o by_o thousand_o daily_a no_o wonder_n that_o it_o be_v say_v that_o it_o be_v then_o the_o use_n for_o the_o most_o part_n that_o those_o who_o be_v baptize_v be_v at_o their_o full_a growth_n and_o add_v the_o other_o cause_n of_o defer_v baptism_n no_o wonder_n shamier_n who_o yet_o speak_v of_o paedobaptism_n speak_v of_o so_o few_o child_n of_o old_a baptize_v chap._n v._o sect_n i._o tertullian_n lib._n de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la cite_v also_o by_o mr._n blackwood_n more_o ample_o thus_o for_o every_o person_n condition_n disposition_n and_o age_n the_o delay_n of_o baptism_n be_v more_o profitable_a especial_o about_o little_a one_o for_o what_o need_n be_v there_o if_o there_o be_v need_n as_o some_o copy_n have_v it_o which_o mr._n b._n leave_v out_o that_o surety_n shall_v be_v hazard_v who_o by_o their_o mortality_n may_v fail_v of_o their_o promise_n and_o be_v deceive_v with_o the_o go_v forward_o of_o a_o evil_a towardliness_n but_o herein_o the_o treatise_n deal_v more_o plain_o then_o mr._n b._n who_o leave_v out_o that_o say_v cite_v in_o tertullian_n suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v to_o i_o upon_o which_o he_o gloss_v as_o follow_v in_o mr._n b._n let_v they_o come_v when_o they_o be_v young_a when_o able_a to_o be_v instruct_v let_v they_o become_v christian_n when_o they_o know_v christ_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n for_o no_o less_o cause_n be_v
question_n from_o thence_o either_o baptism_n or_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o be_v any_o ordinance_n now_o at_o all_o to_o we_o as_o the_o sectary_n do_v let_v we_o bless_v god_n for_o clear_a time_n but_o not_o despise_v any_o truth_n from_o any_o for_o the_o weakness_n of_o those_o earthen_a vessel_n which_o hold_v it_o out_o to_o we_o you_o will_v think_v he_o too_o censorious_a it_o may_v be_v which_o come_v to_o hear_v some_o cobbler_n or_o tailor_n in_o england_n to_o preach_v who_o have_v good_a text_n and_o be_v happy_o honest_a in_o the_o main_a yet_o make_v very_o simple_a work_n of_o it_o both_o in_o their_o wild_a exposition_n of_o scripture_n and_o weak_a yea_o erroneous_a ground_n which_o they_o make_v use_v of_o to_o confirm_v the_o text_n or_o doctrine_n true_o gather_v from_o it_o as_o for_o their_o error_n it_o do_v not_o appear_v from_o all_o mr._n b_n quotation_n that_o all_o the_o 66._o bishop_n hold_v they_o all_o if_o cyprian_n himself_o do_v but_o what_o if_o tertullian_n add_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a to_o the_o baptism_n of_o adult_n person_n as_o in_o the_o place_n quote_v de_fw-fr corona_n militis_n before_o appear_v yea_o unction_n cross_v etc._n etc._n as_o crispin_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n father_v these_o upon_o he_o yet_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o ergo_fw-la baptise_v of_o adult_n person_n upon_o confession_n be_v no_o ordinance_n of_o god_n no_o you_o will_v say_v because_o the_o scripture_n warrant_v it_o so_o say_v we_o it_o warrant_v paedobaptism_n but_o we_o be_v now_o without_o reference_n to_o scripture_n upon_o a_o topick_n place_n of_o argument_n draw_v from_o humane_a testimony_n if_o the_o error_n of_o the_o witness_n to_o the_o one_o make_v his_o testimony_n invalid_a then_o do_v the_o error_n of_o the_o other_o yea_o even_o those_o error_n which_o cyprian_n hold_v about_o do_v away_o sin_n by_o baptism_n unction_n and_o cross_v in_o it_o damnation_n be_v lose_v without_o it_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o spirit_n by_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n they_o hold_v they_o in_o the_o point_n of_o baptism_n indefinite_o whether_o of_o grow_v person_n or_o other_o so_o that_o baptism_n of_o adult_n person_n for_o those_o error_n may_v be_v deny_v as_o hold_v out_o in_o cyprian_n time_n in_o the_o main_a or_o any_o ordinance_n as_o well_o as_o paedobaptism_n and_o cyprian_n testimony_n be_v vain_a in_o the_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o as_o also_o his_o mr._n tertullia_n be_v yet_o mr._n b._n urge_v in_o his_o preface_n cypr._n de_fw-fr baptis_n haeret._n for_o his_o purpose_n if_o he_o hold_v that_o all_o sort_n shall_v be_v baptize_v so_o have_v our_o father_n hold_v that_o all_o sort_n shall_v come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n when_o yet_o only_o visible_a saint_n shall_v yet_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v a_o ordinance_n to_o adult_v person_n visible_o in_o covenant_n with_o god_n and_o his_o people_n and_o not_o scandalous_a and_o so_o be_v baptism_n of_o infant_n of_o parent_n in_o visible_a covenant_n with_o god_n etc._n etc._n notwithstanding_o the_o error_n superad_v or_o that_o other_o of_o infant_n come_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n etc._n etc._n as_o man_n may_v superadde_a to_o christ_n the_o foundation_n wood_n hay_n and_o stubble_n of_o their_o own_o which_o will_v all_o be_v consume_v yet_o the_o foundation_n remain_v precious_a and_o support_v 1_o cor._n 3._o so_o man_n may_v and_o have_v superad_v to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o baptism_n both_o of_o adult_n and_o infant_n and_o so_o to_o that_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o other_o ordinance_n much_o stubble_n of_o their_o own_o vain_a spirit_n and_o man_n invention_n yet_o that_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o such_o thing_n be_v in_o use_n in_o their_o time_n and_o right_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o main_n hold_v out_o by_o they_o and_o as_o sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n we_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o hear_v they_o notwithstanding_o their_o own_o error_n annex_v but_o mr._n blackwood_n have_v another_o evasion_n as_o if_o this_o epistle_n of_o cyprianus_n to_o fidus_n be_v upon_o some_o ground_n to_o be_v suspect_v to_o be_v supposititious_a as_o 1._o in_o that_o pamelius_n mention_n not_o of_o what_o place_n fidus_n be_v answ_n no_o more_o do_v he_o mention_v there_o of_o what_o place_n victor_n or_o therapius_n be_v yet_o therapius_n of_o the_o three_o be_v a_o chief_a man_n and_o call_v to_o the_o carthage_n council_n be_v mention_v by_o his_o place_n de_fw-fr bulla_n he_o be_v reckon_v with_o man_n therefore_o in_o that_o epistle_n who_o place_n be_v describe_v and_o that_o suffice_v he_o be_v know_v to_o they_o albeit_o not_o to_o we_o 2._o in_o that_o there_o be_v such_o weakness_n in_o the_o argument_n not_o likely_a to_o come_v from_o 66._o bishop_n answ_n what_o wonder_v if_o their_o ground_n be_v so_o weak_a if_o so_o they_o be_v since_o mr._n blackwood_n have_v before_o tell_v we_o what_o a_o evil_a time_n cyprian_n be_v and_o if_o they_o be_v so_o full_a of_o error_n as_o he_o say_v before_o about_o baptism_n be_v it_o wonder_v that_o they_o be_v so_o weak_a in_o their_o principle_n about_o it_o i_o can_v answer_v this_o weak_a reason_n otherwise_o but_o since_o mr._n b._n give_v we_o that_o answer_n let_v he_o take_v that_o and_o i_o can_v but_o mind_v he_o of_o that_o council_n at_o carthage_n a_o little_a after_o which_o assemble_v to_o establish_v rebaptise_v of_o person_n lead_v aside_o into_o heresy_n yet_o again_o return_v to_o the_o orthodox_n church_n but_o upon_o what_o weak_a gound_n let_v even_o mr._n b._n consider_v and_o judge_v yet_o none_o therefore_o question_n whether_o ever_o there_o be_v such_o a_o council_n 3_o mr._n b._n say_v there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v at_o what_o place_n this_o synod_n meet_v ans_fw-fr as_o if_o story_n mention_v no_o synod_n and_o those_o genuine_a but_o such_o as_o the_o very_a place_n where_o the_o council_n meet_v be_v also_o mention_v i_o shall_v therefore_o give_v among_o other_o one_o instance_n out_o of_o osiander_n in_o his_o exit_fw-la hist_o eccle_n centur_fw-la 4._o li._n 3._o c._n 13._o where_o he_o cit_v out_o of_o hillary_n a_o oriental_a orthodox_n synod_n of_o bishop_n gather_v against_o that_o sermiensian_a and_o more_o than_o semi-arrian_a synod_n who_o canon_n be_v there_o record_v of_o which_o they_o do_v agree_v but_o as_o for_o the_o place_n or_o city_n where_o that_o synod_n be_v hold_v that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v 4_o say_v mr._n b._n it_o appear_v that_o it_o be_v feign_v because_o so_o contrary_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o tertullian_n which_o be_v in_o such_o request_n with_o cyprian_a ans_fw-fr if_o it_o be_v tertullia_n mind_n which_o mr._n b._n suppose_v yet_o jerom_n who_o can_v speak_v as_o much_o as_o mr._n blackwood_n mention_v and_o do_v as_o i_o remember_v in_o his_o book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n affirm_v from_o a_o very_a age_a man_n mouth_n live_v in_o his_o time_n who_o have_v be_v in_o his_o young_a day_n cyprian_n scribe_n how_o dear_a tertullia_n work_n be_v to_o he_o yet_o i_o do_v not_o think_v that_o therefore_o this_o epistle_n be_v none_o of_o cyprian_n for_o he_o himself_o who_o yet_o in_o that_o book_n mention_v leave_v out_o book_n then_o account_v spurious_a of_o several_a author_n quote_v this_o very_a epistle_n in_o his_o 20._o tom._n lib._n 3._o dialog_n contra_fw-la pelag._n ad_fw-la finem_fw-la and_o lest_o say_v he_o thou_o shall_v think_v i_o in_o a_o heretical_a sense_n to_o understand_v this_o speak_v before_o of_o the_o use_n of_o paedobaptism_n that_o bless_a martyr_n cyprian_n who_o thou_o boast_v thyself_o to_o imitate_v in_o expound_v scripture_n in_o the_o epistle_n he_o write_v to_o the_o bishop_n fidus_n jerom_n call_v fidus_n a_o bishop_n he_o treatise_n style_v he_o but_o a_o priest_n concern_v baptism_n of_o infant_n he_o make_v mention_n of_o this_o etc._n etc._n paedobaptism_n 5_o say_v mr._n b._n it_o appear_v from_o baronius_n that_o cyprian_a be_v against_o paedobaptism_n who_o say_v if_o cyprian_n have_v be_v so_o that_o that_o have_v be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n speak_v say_v mr._n b._n of_o infant_n baptism_n and_o not_o contrary_a to_o holy_a scripture_n by_o sound_n and_o sincere_a opinion_n without_o doubt_n he_o have_v rest_v ans_fw-fr i_o shall_v let_v mr._n b._n please_v himself_o a_o little_a in_o this_o fancy_n suppose_v then_o cardinal_n baronius_n say_v so_o yet_o mr._n b._n have_v among_o other_o exception_n here_o charge_v against_o cyprian_a that_o in_o cyprian_n time_n infant_n do_v partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o will_v any_o follow_v that_o cyprian_n in_o his_o epistle_n de_fw-fr lapsis_fw-la speak_v of_o the_o wickedness_n of_o those_o which_o sacrifice_v at_o the_o heathen_a altar_n he_o aggravate_v their_o sin_n