case_n he_o will_v have_v mercy_n and_o not_o sacrifice_v obj._n may_v not_o the_o magistrate_n make_v a_o general_a muster_n through_o all_o his_o dominion_n in_o one_o day_n of_o the_o week_n and_o discharge_v public_a sermon_n upon_o that_o day_n answ_n that_o be_v no_o imposition_n prejudging_a the_o service_n of_o christ_n for_o minister_n may_v preach_v as_o convenient_o and_o ready_o more_o convenient_o upon_o any_o other_o day_n of_o the_o week_n it_o pertain_v to_o the_o magistrate_n to_o make_v law_n and_o constitution_n for_o the_o advancement_n of_o the_o kirk_n and_o policy_n thereof_o without_o usurp_a any_o thing_n that_o pertain_v not_o to_o the_o civil_a sword_n etc._n etc._n 2._o book_n of_o discip_n chap._n 10._o cite_v if_o i_o remember_v before_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v make_v law_n for_o advancement_n of_o church-policy_n but_o not_o for_o its_o detriment_n his_o power_n about_o church_n matter_n be_v cumulative_a not_o destructive_a and_o if_o he_o shall_v not_o make_v civil_a law_n prejudicial_a to_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o church_n far_o less_o shall_v he_o make_v ecclesiastic_a canon_n and_o canon_n that_o will_v be_v hurtful_a though_o they_o be_v form_v by_o a_o church_n judicatory_a for_o here_o there_o be_v two_o fault_n 1._o take_v on_o he_o to_o do_v what_o belong_v to_o ecclesiastic_a court_n 2._o make_v rule_n which_o upon_o the_o matter_n hinder_v minister_n from_o make_v full_a proof_n of_o their_o ministry_n in_o his_o 2._o he_o quarrel_n at_o the_o term_n intrinsical_o and_o formal_o as_o general_a and_o not_o obvious_o intelligible_a nor_o understand_v by_o every_o one_o answ_n these_o be_v term_n ordinary_o make_v use_n of_o by_o orthodox_n divine_v in_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n they_o be_v special_a and_o specific_a term_n and_o distinguish_v ecclesiastic_a rule_n from_o these_o civil_a law_n and_o constitution_n which_o be_v intrinsical_o and_o formal_o civil_a but_o be_v extrinsical_o and_o objective_o conversant_a about_o ecclesiastic_a matter_n now_o we_o hear_v from_o the_o 10_o chap._n of_o the_o 2d_o book_n of_o discipline_n that_o it_o pertain_v to_o the_o magistrate_n to_o make_v law_n and_o constitution_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o advancement_n of_o the_o kirk_n and_o policy_n thereof_o what_o he_o say_v in_o the_o end_n of_o pag._n 74._o about_o the_o imprisonment_n and_o confinement_n of_o a_o minister_n person_n that_o it_o be_v whole_o political_a and_o no_o more_o ecclesiastical_a than_o any_o other_o thing_n which_o concern_v a_o minister_n person_n as_o his_o hat_n book_n and_o clothes_n and_o the_o like_a this_o show_v that_o the_o minister_n who_o simple_o refuse_v to_o receive_v rule_n and_o instruction_n formal_o and_o intrinsical_o ecclesiastical_a and_o distinguish_v these_o from_o such_o political_a act_n as_o the_o confinement_n in_o refuse_v of_o which_o they_o be_v not_o so_o peremptory_a but_o will_v observe_v or_o not_o observe_v they_o as_o they_o judge_v of_o they_o in_o their_o conscience_n upon_o their_o peril_n do_v in_o this_o act_n very_o rational_o that_o hat_n clothes_n and_o book_n do_v immediate_o concern_v a_o minister_n person_n be_v term_n not_o obvious_o intelligible_a every_o one_o do_v not_o understand_v how_o these_o do_v immediate_o concern_v a_o minister_n person_n he_o who_o will_v have_v other_o speak_v as_o every_o one_o may_v understand_v shall_v have_v speak_v more_o plain_o to_o make_v minister_n clothes_n whole_o political_a without_o any_o distinction_n be_v a_o little_a kittle_a but_o it_o be_v like_a he_o have_v not_o have_v mind_n of_o surplice_n etc._n etc._n when_o he_o write_v this_o he_o add_v or_o will_n rule_v make_v concern_v the_o length_n of_o time_n which_o a_o minister_n be_v to_o spend_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o this_o or_o that_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n or_o the_o like_a be_v account_v rule_n extrinsical_o and_o material_o ecclesiastic_a as_o to_o such_o rule_n he_o say_v pag._n 75._o it_o be_v a_o question_n if_o magistrate_n may_v either_o sole_o or_o in_o prima_fw-la instantia_fw-la prescribe_v such_o rule_n to_o minister_n however_o this_o be_v at_o best_a but_o dubious_a and_o it_o be_v to_o i_o at_o least_o very_o uncertain_a what_o rule_v these_o be_v which_o may_v be_v call_v external_o and_o material_o ecclesiastical_a i_o can_v have_v wish_v that_o some_o instance_n hereof_o have_v be_v give_v etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o if_o he_o will_v have_v deal_v fair_o he_o shall_v have_v use_v the_o ordinary_a term_n and_o not_o make_v term_n of_o his_o own_o for_o rule_n formal_o and_o intrinsical_o ecclesiastical_a be_v distinguish_v from_o civil_a law_n and_o constitution_n objective_o and_o extrinsical_o ecclesiastical_a and_o iâ—_n his_o call_v they_o rule_v external_o and_o material_o ecclesiastical_a be_v a_o miscal_v of_o they_o that_o he_o may_v make_v a_o knot_n in_o a_o rush_n where_o he_o find_v none_o 2._o if_o a_o indulge_v minister_n have_v make_v a_o question_n if_o the_o magistrate_n may_v limit_v the_o length_n of_o time_n which_o a_o minister_n be_v to_o spend_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o this_o or_o that_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n and_o have_v but_o doubt_v of_o it_o as_o a_o thing_n dubious_a it_o be_v very_o probable_a that_o the_o historian_n will_v have_v make_v this_o no_o less_o than_o a_o betray_n of_o the_o cause_n he_o make_v hideous_a outcry_n against_o they_o upon_z as_o little_a ground_n but_o see_v he_o himself_o grant_v that_o some_o of_o the_o instruction_n give_v by_o the_o magistrate_n be_v formal_o and_o intrinsical_o ecclesiastical_a pag._n 65._o he_o be_v as_o much_o oblige_v as_o the_o indulge_v minister_n to_o show_v what_o be_v the_o rule_n which_o be_v vvn_n from_o these_o they_o may_v be_v clear_a with_o he_o that_o some_o of_o these_o rule_n be_v such_o and_o why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o as_o well_o as_o for_o he_o to_o doubt_v concern_v other_o of_o they_o the_o brother_n who_o have_v answer_v this_o history_n show_v that_o the_o paper_n in_o which_o these_o minister_n agree_v will_v have_v inform_v he_o and_o if_o he_o have_v be_v so_o desirous_a to_o know_v he_o may_v have_v send_v for_o it_o for_o his_o instruction_n but_o not_o to_o go_v further_o than_o the_o instance_n which_o he_o bring_v if_o the_o magistrate_n make_v a_o act_n if_o there_o be_v sermon_n in_o a_o city_n upon_o a_o market-day_n that_o the_o congregation_n shall_v be_v dismiss_v against_o such_o a_o hour_n here_o be_v a_o act_n extrinsical_o regulate_v or_o limit_v the_o exercise_n of_o the_o public_a worship_n and_o if_o the_o time_n precede_v that_o hour_n be_v a_o time_n of_o the_o day_n at_o which_o it_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o people_n to_o meet_v i_o see_v no_o cause_n of_o complain_v or_o clash_v with_o the_o magistrate_n in_o that_o matter_n but_o if_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o prescribe_v to_o the_o minister_n how_o he_o shall_v explain_v his_o text_n and_o in_o what_o method_n he_o shall_v prosecute_v his_o doctrine_n that_o will_v be_v a_o entrench_v upon_o the_o call_v of_o the_o ministry_n there_o be_v some_o thing_n which_o be_v intrinsical_a to_o every_o call_v and_o art_n and_o rule_n for_o order_v these_o be_v to_o be_v draw_v from_o the_o principle_n of_o that_o art_n and_o call_v and_o the_o form_n of_o these_o rule_n be_v the_o formal_a and_o intrinsic_a exercise_n of_o that_o call_v and_o art_n and_o there_o be_v some_o circumstantial_o that_o be_v so_o extrinsic_a that_o they_o make_v no_o moral_a alteration_n upon_o a_o action_n but_o it_o may_v be_v every_o way_n as_o well_o do_v and_o to_o as_o good_a purpose_n with_o one_o of_o these_o circumstance_n as_o another_o as_o for_o example_n whether_o the_o sermon_n in_o a_o city_n shall_v begin_v upon_o the_o weekday_n at_o eight_o hour_n or_o half_a nine_o and_o if_o there_o be_v two_o kirk_n alike_o convenient_a for_o the_o congregation_n to_o meet_v in_o it_o be_v all_o one_o as_o to_o the_o morality_n of_o the_o meeting_n whether_o it_o be_v here_o or_o there_o and_o in_o such_o circumstantial_o as_o these_o if_o the_o magistrate_n act_n do_v not_o prejudge_v impede_fw-la or_o mar_v the_o exercise_n of_o the_o ministry_n minister_n have_v no_o reason_n to_o complain_v that_o such_o act_n intrenche_n and_o incroach_v upon_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o ministry_n or_o mar_v they_o in_o the_o manage_n of_o these_o matter_n in_o which_o they_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o christ_n see_v the_o historian_n be_v so_o desirous_a to_o have_v this_o matter_n clear_v and_o think_v it_o be_v not_o clear_v by_o what_o these_o minister_n say_v why_o will_v he_o not_o endeavour_v to_o resolve_v this_o question_n and_o see_v he_o look_v upon_o these_o minister_n at_o least_o some_o of_o the_o able_a of_o they_o as_o pedant_n after_o he_o
to_o begin_v at_o some_o but_o it_o spread_v like_o fire_n and_o they_o who_o be_v most_o busy_a to_o bring_v their_o brethren_n into_o contempt_n sudden_o lose_v their_o own_o credit_n or_o if_o they_o continue_v a_o while_n to_o take_v pleasure_n in_o that_o fire_n that_o consume_v their_o brethren_n reputation_n that_o pleasure_n will_v be_v ready_o as_o short_a as_o the_o pleasure_n that_o a_o envyful_a neighbour_n take_v in_o warm_v his_o hand_n at_o the_o fire_n which_o consume_v his_o neighbour_n house_n for_o the_o consume_a fire_n take_v hold_n of_o his_o own_o house_n do_v quick_o spill_v that_o sport_n and_o turn_v the_o pleasure_n into_o sorrow_n and_o vexation_n there_o be_v yet_o another_o piece_n of_o high_a presumption_n in_o one_o of_o these_o letter_n which_o be_v solid_o refute_v in_o a_o letter_n direct_v to_o this_o historian_n i_o shall_v set_v it_o down_o in_o the_o word_n of_o that_o letter_n you_o say_v the_o sin_n of_o the_o indulgence_n and_o of_o the_o minister_n throughout_o the_o land_n favour_v it_o have_v be_v such_o a_o unparalleled_a provocation_n as_o god_n can_v forgive_v it_o till_o vengeance_n be_v proportionable_o inflict_v on_o the_o land_n and_o posterity_n this_o must_v be_v indeed_o a_o very_a heinous_a and_o great_a wickedness_n that_o be_v a_o unparalleled_a provocation_n so_o that_o none_o have_v be_v so_o great_a before_o it_o nor_o co-existent_a to_o it_o but_o this_o be_v a_o very_a catachrestick_n hyperbolie_a proceed_n from_o excessive_a heat_n and_o irritation_n of_o spirit_n be_v the_o preach_n of_o a_o honest_a minister_n after_o the_o removal_n of_o the_o magistrate_n restraint_n a_o great_a wickedness_n than_o whoredom_n incest_n witchcraft_n idolatry_n persecution_n that_o have_v be_v or_o be_v act_v the_o abomination_n of_o popery_n in_o doctrine_n cruel_a massacre_n torture_v death_n teach_v authorize_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n on_o who_o forehead_n be_v write_v abomination_n this_o be_v a_o unparalleled_a excess_n of_o expression_n his_o hyperbolic_a exaggeration_n be_v very_o presume_v upon_o the_o sovereign_a power_n of_o god_n mercy_n and_o will_v not_o go_v well_o down_o with_o those_o who_o have_v sound_a and_o high_a thought_n of_o god_n sovereignty_n it_o will_v be_v to_o they_o durâ—us_fw-la sermo_fw-la &_o audax_fw-la god_n power_n either_o of_o do_v or_o forgive_n be_v either_o potentia_fw-la absoluta_fw-la which_o be_v consider_v as_o abstract_a or_o prescind_v from_o his_o decree_n whether_o reveal_v or_o secret_a of_o this_o we_o suppose_v you_o do_v not_o speak_v for_o if_o he_o have_v not_o decree_v temporal_a punishment_n none_o will_v say_v but_o that_o god_n may_v thave_v not_o decree_v they_o and_o so_o not_o execute_v they_o and_o yet_o have_v pardon_v the_o sin_n upon_o believe_v in_o christ_n and_o this_o even_o those_o who_o say_v that_o primitive_a justice_n be_v essential_a to_o god_n do_v grant_v that_o as_o to_o the_o egression_n of_o it_o in_o its_o act_n on_o the_o creature_n its_o free_a this_o owen_n in_o his_o diatrib_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la &_o justitia_fw-la dei_fw-la do_v yield_v and_o yet_o he_o do_v very_o strenuous_o contrary_a to_o twisse_n and_o rutherford_n assert_v that_o primitive_a justice_n be_v essential_a to_o god_n prescind_v from_o all_o decree_n or_o 2._o god_n power_n be_v potentia_fw-la ordinata_fw-la by_o himself_o which_o be_v either_o by_o his_o secret_a decree_n or_o such_o as_o be_v reveal_v in_o his_o word_n now_o as_o that_o potentia_fw-la dei_fw-la to_o do_v or_o forgive_v sin_n which_o be_v secret_a and_o not_o reveal_v we_o be_v not_o to_o search_v into_o it_o far_o less_o to_o determine_v what_o it_o be_v and_o as_o for_o that_o potentia_fw-la ordinata_fw-la by_o his_o decree_n reveal_v we_o ought_v to_o search_v and_o may_v assert_v what_o we_o find_v himself_o determine_v it_o to_o be_v so_o that_o if_o it_o be_v reveal_v god_n will_v not_o pardon_v such_o a_o sin_n without_o vengeance_n proportionable_o execute_v upon_o the_o land_n and_o posterity_n one_o may_v say_v god_n will_v not_o pardon_v it_o till_o vengeance_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v a_o harsh_a word_n even_o then_o and_o in_o that_o case_n to_o say_v god_n can_v pardon_v it_o till_o vengeance_n be_v execute_v but_o where_o be_v it_o reveal_v in_o the_o word_n that_o god_n can_v or_o god_n will_v not_o pardon_v it_o till_o vengeance_n &_o c_o this_o therefore_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v great_a and_o temerarious_a boldness_n to_o be_v so_o peremptour_n in_o it_o how_o many_o great_a and_o horrible_a wickedness_n have_v be_v act_v which_o have_v not_o be_v visible_o pursue_v with_o proportionable_a vengeance_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o world_n and_o thus_o to_o determine_v how_o much_o affinity_n have_v it_o with_o enthusiasm_n which_o the_o writer_n have_v well_o confute_v in_o write_v against_o the_o quaker_n and_o therefore_o we_o hope_v do_v not_o with_o advertency_n or_o deliberation_n fall_v into_o it_o we_o shall_v only_o mind_v you_o of_o a_o much_o approven_v and_o commend_v say_v of_o augustine_n pertinent_a to_o this_o case_n that_o god_n do_v signal_o punish_v some_o heinous_a wickedness_n lest_o man_n shall_v deny_v providence_n and_o forbear_v to_o punish_v as_o great_a wickedness_n here_o that_o we_o may_v expect_v and_o certain_o conclude_v there_o will_v be_v a_o day_n of_o judgement_n wherein_o he_o will_v render_v vengeance_n to_o such_o wicked_a doer_n i_o shall_v add_v the_o word_n of_o mr._n h._n in_o his_o excellent_a exposition_n of_o the_o book_n of_o job_n pag._n 37._o where_o he_o be_v show_v the_o error_n of_o job_n three_o friend_n he_o reckon_v this_o among_o those_o error_n that_o they_o maintain_v that_o there_o be_v always_o a_o actual_a execution_n of_o such_o judgement_n upon_o all_o the_o wicked_a in_o this_o life_n but_o job_n agreeable_o to_o the_o scripture_n maintain_v that_o god_n exercise_v a_o great_a variety_n of_o dispensation_n towards_o wicked_a man_n in_o this_o life_n chap._n 21.23_o 24_o 25._o and_o as_o may_v be_v gather_v from_o the_o scope_n of_o most_o of_o his_o speech_n that_o ofttimes_o god_n see_v it_o fit_a to_o spare_v wicked_a man_n in_o this_o life_n yea_o and_o to_o heap_v prosperity_n upon_o they_o until_o their_o death_n that_o so_o he_o may_v exercise_v the_o faith_n and_o patience_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o may_v teach_v all_o to_o look_v out_o to_o a_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o the_o eternal_a reward_n of_o wickedness_n and_o piety_n pag._n 115._o the_o author_n of_o the_o history_n of_o the_o indulgence_n pretend_v to_o answer_v what_o can_v be_v say_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o accept_n of_o the_o indulgence_n have_v thus_o show_v say_v he_o how_o sinful_a the_o accept_n of_o this_o indulgence_n be_v upon_o many_o account_n it_o remain_v that_o we_o remove_v out_o of_o the_o way_n what_o can_v be_v say_v in_o the_o defence_n thereof_o to_o the_o end_n we_o may_v give_v all_o satisfaction_n possible_a ans_fw-fr if_o he_o real_o intend_v to_o give_v all_o possible_a satisfaction_n he_o shall_v not_o have_v withhold_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n which_o in_o all_o question_n be_v absolute_o necessary_a in_o order_n to_o satisfaction_n it_o be_v a_o wonder_n how_o he_o can_v imagine_v to_o give_v any_o let_v be_v all_o satisfaction_n or_o to_o give_v any_o usual_a ordinary_a satisfaction_n let_v be_v all_o possible_a satisfaction_n and_o yet_o withhold_v from_o his_o reader_n the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n without_o which_o he_o can_v give_v no_o satisfaction_n at_o all_o no_o not_o the_o least_o degree_n of_o absolute_o necessary_a satisfaction_n which_o in_o all_o controversy_n especial_o about_o sin_n and_o duty_n shall_v and_o must_v be_v give_v and_o far_o less_o all_o possible_a satisfaction_n which_o take_v in_o not_o only_o all_o that_o must_v be_v say_v but_o all_o that_o can_v be_v say_v for_o the_o reader_n satisfaction_n 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