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A86483 An examination of sundry Scriptures alleadged by our brethren, in defence of some particulars of their church-way. Humbly submitted to the sight and censure of any judicious divine: especially of such of the reverend godly-learned Assembly as vouchsafe to read it. By R. Hollingworth, M.A. of Magd. Col. Camb. Imprimatur, Ja. Cranford. Decemb. 17. 1644. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1645 (1645) Wing H2492; Thomason E24_6; ESTC R7700 24,410 32

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by request of that Church where the Elders are to be ordained (k) R. M. and W.T. to C.H. p 48. 26. Gifted men not called unto the Ministery This is but a little altered from Answ to 3● q. p. 80. 73. and T.W. to W.R. p 44. 56. nor intended for it may preach They that were scattered abroad upon the persecution which arose about Steven were not Church-Officers at least not all of them yet these men did preach the Word and Philip which was but a Deacon preached without the calling or privity of the Apostles Acts 11.19 8.14 This Text cannot be understood generally of all that were scattered Answer your selves explain it of men not of women 1 Cor. 14. of gifted men and called to that work by the Church and not of ungifted and uncalled men yet the words in their indefinite latitude will prove as well the preaching of ungifted and uncalled men as others Questionlesse there were Elders amongst them it may be the seventy Disciples were not quite out of Commission certainly Philip was amongst them who was an Evangelist which Office began upon that dispersion as well as a Deacon Acts 21.8 and did baptize which your selves confesse unofficed men cannot do as well as preach They were all filled with the holy Ghost Acts 2.4 10. 4.31 (l) And the hand of the Lord was with them Acts. 11.21 cum Ezek. 3.14 which made them Doctours the first day and gave them both ability and a call to speak the Word which the Apostles counted their principall work and after it Prayer and Administration of the Sacraments 1 Cor. 1.17 Acts 6.4 (m) Answ to 32 q. p. 71. this therefore was an extraordinary Case Yet that these did preach ordinarily and usually to the Churches like to Pastours and received maintenance for the same as some do in London and elsewhere is impossible to be proved 27. Jehoshaphat sent Princes who were neither Ministers See Answ to 32 q. nor intended so to be to teach with the Priests and Levites to wit at least to encourage the people to hearken to the Priests and Levites 2 Chron. 17.7 8 9 as Jehoshaphat did 2 Chro. 20.20 yea and was their mouth to God in Prayer verse 25. to 13. As we conceive something in that Prophesying 1 Cor. 14. to be extraordinary so we conceive it to be Ordinary that some private men grown Christians of able gifts who may have received a gift of Prophesie need no more extraordinary Calling for them to prophesie in the Churches then for Jehoshaphat and his Princes to prophesie in the Church of Israel In the Church of Israel Answer none besides the Priests and Levites did ordinarily prophesie either in the Temple or in the Synagogues unlesse they were either furnished with extraorpinary gifts of Prophecie as the Prophets of Israel or were set apart and trained up to prepare for such a Calling as the sons of the Prophets (n) Cot. Keys p. 20. but Jehoshaphat and his Princes were neither Prophets nor sons of the Prophets There is a vast difference between prophesying and encouraging the people to hear the Priests and Levites Had Jehoshaphat a Warrant for what he did or no if he had was it ordinary or extraordinary If either he had no Warrant or an extraordinary one he is not to be imitated if an ordinary Warrant you may produce it for all the Books of Scripture that were writ in his time are extant and many more Jehoshaphat knew well the difference between matters of God and the Kings matters 2 Chron. 19.11 matters concerning the King and Common-wealth The Princes might as Judges Justices c. now do teach in the Cities Do you indeed hold that the King may not onely preach himself but also appoint others to preach and teach though the Church do not call them If so tell us I pray you whether he may preach in the whole Nation or onely in one particular Congregation You tell us that the Kings of Judah being Types of Christ and not onely their people but their very Land being typicall c. might be invested by God With a larger power in matters of Religion then Kings and Magistrates under the Gospel may not I adde or Subjects have any ground or warrant to claim from (o) Two Brethren to A.S. p. 54. Those in 1 Cor. 14. had not an ordinary but an extraordinary gift of Prophecie and the gift of Tongues also yea they composed Songs and Psalms as the Spirit did thereunto move enable and authorize them yet you hold not that a man having attained variety of Tongues See Cot. Keyes p. 20. and M. Goodwin and M. Nyes Epistle or a Poeticall vein might then or now may in Churches exercise the gift of Tongues and sing self-composed Songs or Psalms nor can you from hence shew that it is lawfull for unofficed men to preach in an ordinary course and to receive maintenance for the same Reader other Witnesses are come in and more may come in while thou art reading these I shall hear them Their testimonies as Scouts shall bring tidings shall be concealed or published FINIS