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A10748	A treatise of ecclesiasticall and politike povver Shewing, the church is a monarchicall gouernment, ordained to a supernaturall and spirituall end, tempered with an aristocraticall order, (which is the best of all and most conformable to nature) by the great pastor of soules Iesus Christ. Faithfully translated out of the Latin originall, of late publikely printed and allowed in Paris. Now set foorth for a further warrant and encouragement to the Romish Catholikes of England, for theyr taking of the Oath of Allegiance; seeing so many others of their owne profession in other countries doe deny the Popes infalibility in indgement and temporall power ouer princes, directly against the doctrine of Iesuits. To the prince.; De ecclesiastica et politica potestate. English	Richer, Edmond.	1612 (1612)	STC 21024; ESTC S102957	32,246	64

will be a long time hereafter For vnlesse it be in a generall Councel it is not to be hoped that you may euer haue a constant resolution of so many so learned Doctors of your own aboue all so little interessed in your case but rather which being able to claim more then you as being Church-men theselues disclaim honestly willingly that which is not theirs the more therfore to be beleeued It is no more Luther that speakes in Bohemia Caluin in Geneua Henry 8. in England Iames the sixt in Scotland you cannot impute this to any particular quarrell or heresie They are not priuate men of another Countrie that speake in their owne sence and of which you might say they may ouershoot themselues thogh of your owne profession as the two aboue mentioned It is not one Blackwel your Archpriest one VVarmington one Sheldon your Priests of whome you might say the two former were prisoners the last a Runne-away VViddrington at least was free that so learnedly confutes Bellarmine by Bellarmine himselfe and is your own stil yea most passionate as the fashion is of all those that haue forsaken vs therefore the more worthy to be credited by you Though it be a great wonder how he hath beene able to reserue still so much reason and honesty to make a stop there since it is not the good hap of such as fall once from the steepe rocke of the truth to graspe any where but rather alwaies to tumble from an error to an heresie till they be legges and lims all broken ouerwhelmed in the bottome or rather in the bottomlesse pit yet it is not hee that speakes It is not the King himselfe of whome you might say he speakes in his owne cause though no otherwise then a good Father commending naturall duety to his belooued Children And I pray you who shal loose most or be punished at last either the godly father for admonishing his rebellious children or they for denying him his due It is not that so powerfully fulminō● in vanos illos fulminatores et vacua fulmina Capitolij learned Andrewes or any other of our graue men of whome you might say they speake to please the King They are free and franke Frenchmen that speake in Fraunce it selfe the mother of all fraunchise and freedome free not onely in their bodies but without preiudice in their mindes For of those Frenchmen they are not that part which being neerer in faith to vs heere you might perhaps nick-name Puritans open and opposite enemies to the Pope No such matter They are your owne deere Brethren rather then our commō friends the same sheep of one pretended fold with your selues the Popes most obedient and gentle children who rather by too gracious charitable a granting then by a restraining maner rather giue a new far stretched power to your common father then abridge him of any of his old It is I say whole France that speakes by her Sorbonne that whole society agreeing together as one man speaks also by one man their Sindick learned Speaker Riche● very wel known though not named The Sorbonne of Paris I say so famous through all Christendome which being an ancient cōpany of the most graue learned French doctors in Diuinity both canonicall and ciuill law is as it were a continual standing councell in France allowed by the Pope at least represents it as long as there is none else and to their oracles in that respect all France in a time of neede yea verte often many forraine Countries haue had their refuge For euē when at the first this very same book came forth without a name as a child exposd to fortun that it might be the more free to any to oppose alleadge what they would what they could against it Then indeede the Nuncio perceiuing his master so thoroughly let blood not onely in his Cefalica or Basilica that is in his headship ouer the church or royaltie ouer Princes but euen in his Arteria magna wherein consists the life and the spirit of all his being runs in a great heate to diuers Bishops and Cardinals and gathering as many as he could to accompany one the greatest indeed among them all willing nilling as one that truly hath euer bin very moderate but yet hath so neere an interest in the Pope both by oth by hope he may wel haue to be a Pope himselfe one day is sure he is more worthy of the place then the place as now it is of him sends him in al the hast to complaine to the Counsel and demand the suppression of this booke But that right worthy of that name Henry de Bourbon most worthily the first Prince of the bloud hauing thoroughly perused it before hand vndertakes brauely the defence thereof in the behalfe of our yong Lewes his Lord neere kinsman ouerthrows the reasons without reason of the Bishops Cardinall all giuing by authoritie of the whole Counsell more authoritie to the booke then it had before For e●en that other eye of France Charles de Bourbon Earle of Soissons taking then first notice of the booke therfore not able to speake much to it but vpon the assurance of his nephews sufficiencie caused it purposely to be translated to vnderstand it better and finding it also most iust equitable and well grounded it was publikely printed in French whereas it was before but in Latin Then was Sorbonne also consulted as they vse in such cases which gaue freely their opinion in fauor of the book as knowing ful wel from whence it came beginning the as it were to auow it as their own Wherupō the Nuncioes crew yet not yeelding but continuing to gather it selfe together three or foure daies to aduise of some means for their redresse as soon as that famous high Court of Parliament of Paris the right arme of our Kings in some sort Protectors of the kingdom in a nonage had notice of it they sent immediately the kings Atturny general to bid thē vpon pain of the Kings displeasure to separate thēselues leaue off such cōuenticles which were not only without but against the Kings authority of the Church about such things as were allowed by his Maiesties most honourable priu● Counsell by the Sorbonne and by themselues them three representing as it were the three Estates that is to say the whole kingdome And now that which that most Christian Fraunce saith is nothing new or of her own selfe but Serenissime Venice hath said as much vpon mature consultation of al her Diuines and saith so still Catholike Spain it selfe thinking no lesse which yet hath spoken sometimes as far as any of the rest if not further as their owne manifold Councils held at Toledo most learnedly cited in that Royall Apology for the Oath of Allegiance do manifestly iterate and testifie Fraunce Spaine and Venice the three Charites the three minions of the Pope that yet sticke

thorough all the world but onely some few yeres since that the diuell being almost at a bay strugleth with his last and most violent endeuours against the truth that strangleth him Neuerthelesse medling heerein more for your own good then for his Maiesties which yet as a right Pater Patriae as a kind Pater-familias of the Common-wealth hee will euer esteeme his owne when it is yours I thought some moneths a goe to haue presented you in your owne language that famous letter of a great friend of yours the Iesuit Cotton written in French to the Queene Regent of Fraunce in disalowance of Marianaes booke and other writings of other Iesuits approouing disobedience of subiects to their own lawful kings in temporall matters euen to their poisoning and murther But another man with more hast then good speede I am sure though not with a better minde then my selfe seruing it vnto you in another dish and with a sower sauce in the end of that odious chamber of meditations did quite marre the good vse that yee both and wee I meane the whole state might very well haue reapt therof All things are not fit to bee said at all times neither ought we so nakedly to vncouer the shame of our brethren as long as ther is any hope of amendment principally being most certain that the best part of you doth not alow yea I dare say not know those abhominable execrable and almost incredible courses For no doubt but it would haue made some impression in your harts to haue seene without such a bitter addition quite then out of season and rather to exasperate then to pacifie you so famous a man a Iesuit by profession and one of your greater saints writing of set purpose to so eminent a person and impugning whatsoeuer hitherto hath beene or hereafter might be written by any of his owne order or by others against the temporall authoritie of Princes ouer their subiects cyting orderlie one by one as numerus certus pro incerto a dozē of famous Iesuits Cardinall Tolet Cardinall Bellarmine Gregory of Valencia Salmeron Delrio Heyssius Becanus Gretzerus Lessius Serrerius Azor Richeom euerie one with some speciall place mainteining the Princes temporall authoritie And for better fortifying therof setting downe of himselfe and without any vrging 15. heads and principles of the faith and beleefe of their whole society about that matter whereof among the rest the 6. 7. 8 9. 10. 11. 12. are these after that in the former he hath established and highly cōmended the monarchicall state as the best That kings are annointed and therefore called the annointed of the Lord that euerie one as Simeon Archbishop of Thessalonica saith may vnderstand that they ought to be inuiolable and respected as holy and sacred persons That whosoeuer resisteth them or rebelleth against them shall receiue their owne damnation Rom. 13.2 That obedience is due vnto them not because vertuous wise mighty or of any other such qualities but meerely because they be kings and established by God That it is not lawful to deny them their obedience much lesse to rebell against them though they should bee v●●tous froward and hard to be endured 1. Pet. 2.18 That in such cases wee ought to pray for them as the Prophet did command the Iewes for Nebucadnezar and Baltazar Bar. i. ii And that those persecutions losses of goods and other afflictions which are patiently suffered for that cause and without rebellion against their superiours are things most pleasing to God and agreeable to that praise which Paul giueth to the Ebrewes cap. 10.34 and to that ordinance by himselfe published in the Church Rom. 1● 1. That it is not lawfull to attempt any thing against their persons but that it is a most execrable parricide a prodigious crime and abominable sacriledge All which articles and letter though by some accused of some equiuocation truely at least by all honest plaine-dealing men and fully good subiects of to much sparingnesse and cohibition in a matter which deserued with an open mouth to haue bene more clearely and largely extended yet willing to take al things in the best sence euen in our aduersaries and receiue as lawfull and current the coyne of ill pay-masters neuer so base neuer so clipt so it be but indifferent good I then purposed with a peaceful charitable and truely Christian and brotherly mind and fashion to set them before your eyes to the end you might with as peacefull a spirit and not stirred or distasted by any vnsauory appendix conceaue at least of this point That so many other Iesuits of other nations are not of the same opinion in that behalfe with your Parsons Campion Creswell Garnet Hall Greenwell Gerard Hamōd other your fiery Iesuits which as right Puritans among their other fellowes that is abstractum de abstracto as though England were the onely Seminary in the world for such a cumbersome to sharp-sighted and to sharp-minded zeale defin●ng and refining law and Gospell according to their owne humours and priuate ends till they haue I feare me and God forbid finished and dissolued all make Religion where there is none and irreligion of that which is most sacred and religious As by all lawes both diuine naturall Ecclesiasticall politike and positiue temporal obedience of subiects to their Princes is and hath euer beene held But that good duetie being intercepted as I told you before I had very willingly requited it by presenting you another booke of another though yet my Country-man still of your owne profession for with other armes will I neuer vrge you then those that your owne men shall put into my hands A man truly most worthy and learned A booke most worth reading intituled Of the common offence and priuiledged case wherein shewing by degrees and from age to age the incroaching increase of the authority of the Popes and Church-men in that old time of thick ignorance when scarce any in the world but they could reade or write his name that Author most excellently proueth that a principio non erat sic and that from the beginning many hundred yeares after al Church-men without exception were subiect to the ful obedience and Iustice of their ciuill Princes till by their fauourable graunt and relaxation or rather by an ouer-religious stat●nesse vnprouidency and scrupulous simplicitie Church-men by tract of time got to be released in some cases from whēce first arose the distinction betwixt delictum commune casus priuilegiatus as they call them But fearing least that booke neuer so cleer neuer so wel followed might not be of great moment with you as being written by a priuate man not perhaps so famous among you as your owne father Cotton though a noble Iudge of one of our high Courts of Parliament and his booke openly printed allowed and licenced by Catholike learned Diuines I thought rather to looke for a better opportunitie which I am sure hath not bene euer since so effectuall as this nor perhaps